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Today's Five Minutes for Democracy is: PARTICIPATE

Topic: DOWNING STREET MINUTES ANNIVERSARY EVENTS

NOTE: THE DCP WILL BE LIVE BLOGGING FROM SEATTLE, DETROIT, OAKLAND, AND NEW YORK CITY ON JULY 23. WE WILL BE POSTING ON AFTERDOWNINGSTREET.ORG AND THE DCP BLOG!

July 23 is the Downing Street Minutes anniversary. Events are being added daily! go HERE to see if one is near you. If not, why not have one?

You can find all you need to plan and carry out a great event HERE

From the press release:

LISTEN TO A TAPE OF THE JULY 23, 2002, DOWNING STREET MEETING (or an amazing 9-minute recreation thereof that uses the exact words of the "Downing Street Memo.)

This remarkable audio production conveys far more clearly than the written word what went on behind closed doors that day three years ago. The cast and credits for this production, are as follows.

Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee John Scarlett -- Anonymous

Sir Richard Dearlove, the Chief of Britain's Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) -
John Rafter Lee

Admiral Sir Michael Boyce, Chief of Defence Staff - Demian Martell

Then Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon - Ed Asner

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw -- Anonymous

Attorney General Lord Goldsmith - Larry Pressman

Sir David Manning, a foreign policy advisor - Brian O'Connor

Prime Minister Tony Blair - Demian Martell

Narrator - Mimi Kennedy

Recording Engineered By Michael Jay

LINK TO AUDIO AVAILABLE FOR USE ON RADIO:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/recreation.m3u

Forward this to your friends who don't like to read!

Play it at your event next Saturday!

Ask your local radio stations to air it!

Ask your congressional member and senators to listen to it!

OVER 250 EVENTS PLANNED FOR SATURDAY, JULY 23

On July 23, over 250 events around the United States will mark the three-year anniversary of the meeting at #10 Downing Street in London, England, that was recorded in the now infamous minutes known as the "Downing Street Memo." At least nine events will be hosted by or participated in by Members of Congress,including John Conyers in Detroit, Jim McDermott in Seattle, Barbara Lee in Oakland, Maxine Waters in Los Angeles, Maurice Hinchey in New York, and Tom Udall in New Mexico.

Congressman Charles Rangel will host an electronic town-hall meeting, answering questions from his New York constituents on the internet, from noon to 1 p.m., July 22. Congressman Xavier Becerra will host an event in Los Angeles on July 30, and Congressman Barney Frank in Boston on July 31.

Co-Founder of the After Downing Street Coalition, constitutional attorney John Bonifaz will speak at a town hall meeting on July 23rd in Northampton, Mass.

In over 250 towns and cities, prominent speakers and ordinary citizens will hold public forums, perform dramatic recreations of the Downing Street meeting, and host house parties and study circles. Ninety-two events and counting are listed online at AfterDowningStreet.org. For details on events in any part of the country, see this map: http://heh.pl/&tm . Another 18 events on surrounding days are also listed on the site. In addition, Congressman Conyers' office has organized over 150 house parties through their website. See http://johnconyers.com/.

Conference Call for House Parties:

Congressman Conyers and former Ambassador Joseph Wilson will participate in a national conference call with house party attendees from 4 to 4:30 p.m. ET. For details, contact Jonathan Godfrey at 202-744-7441 or jonathangodfrey@gmail.com.

DCPers: This is our chance to participate in a national discussion/action. You can do so from wherever you are! SO let's get some energy up for this and tell our neighbors, friends, and email buds about it.

They always claim to be supporters of the free market but only if they get to control the rules....or perhaps rulers......

Letting the markets decide is uncompassionate and creates misery all around.

The bid'ness of Texas is bid'ness....and so goes America.

The Only Divider Greater than W, Is Green

One might say that our so called democracy has become a well lubed machine, albeit with screws loose.

I mean, if we're talkin' bid'ness, and the country IS the bid'ness, let's say We, as shareholders, take a look at the bottom line and decide right here, right now, whether the Board of Dictators, I mean Directors, deserve to be kept on in their current diminished mental capacity?

I have stopped arguing with the props (short for "propaganda receptacles") and have resorted to asking one simple question, sort of in the same "bid'ness" mindset... I ask simpy "Tell me one thing that has gone well since the election of 2000?"

I'm sure you could all fill in the very short list of answers I receive. I can shoot down every one of them like little more than an annoying mosquito, and yet, we can't seem to get anyone in our government to mount any type of oppostition to this madness and articulate CLEARLY what the hell is really going on...

So back to bid'ness... the country as a whole confirmed for me, just by the mere closeness of the highly debatable election results from 2004, that the "shareholders" are, in general, a mind-numbingly-oblivious-to-the-truth clump of nationalists who possess very little ability to see events in the "big picture", or grasp the far-reaching consequences of these last 5 years.

So when I wonder, as I often do, "Where Has My Country Gone?", I can refer back to this thread topic which confirms for me what I thought.

In the what appears to be the true spirit of American Big Business... We've Been Sold.

Hey, on the bright side, it's nothing personal, it's jus bid'ness.

Monkey
Condoleezza Rice has a Chevron tanker named after her.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx

Public interest research website - who owns whom and what, lobbies for what, how it all works

One of the best reference resources I know

not surprising, if true - they did it during the Vietnam era

FBI Builds Huge File on Antiwar, Rights Groups

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071805Z.shtml

Posted by: not my president at July 18, 2005 09:36 AM

We got sold a tanked tanker called the W43, and it's run aground and afoul in shallow, murky, dhsrk infested waters... and as the U.S.S. U.S. begins to sink to new depths, others will, and have already, swim away from the crippled luxury liar, else be sucked under as well by the vicious undertow.

Shuffleboard anyone?

Kerry news continues.

Despite the end of posting on LUTD, while we are waiting for the successor blog under construction, the Unofficial Kerry Blog continues to be updated with news.

This morning there are already two new items on Kerry, as well as an op-ed piece by John Edwards.

http://kerryblog.blogspot.com

OT -
http://www.democracycellproject.net/blog/archives/2005/04/secular_and_spi.html

Posted by: Matthew Carnicelli at July 18, 2005 05:17 AM

Matthew, I'd missed that one, and it's one of your best. Thanks. I love Sundays. :-)

I have replayed Tim Russert's interview with Matt Cooper yesterday and I heard the following that should be helpful in obtaining an indictment.
Rove on Spot what i told the Grand Jury.
First time I learned Jo Wislon's wife was working for the CIA came from Carl Rove.

And this statement wa important.
Tim to Matt: When Karl concluded his comment with you, you write, he said "I'VE ALREADY SAID TOO MUCH", what did you mean?

I'm not sure what it meant Tim, at first I thought he meant I've(Rove) been INDISCREET then I thought it was more beneign I've got to get to a meeting but I do know the memory of that has stayed in my head for 2 years."

This could be critical if the Grand Jury believes that Rove had Knowledge, Scienter, Intent, that what he was saying was Indiscreet because it was unlawful. Knowledge and intent are always key elements in a critical prosecution and a judgment call. That will be a beginning point for a Grand Jury to reach an indictment. In Texas at least it takes only 9 of 14 to concur in finding a bill of indictment which is merely an 'accusation' of some act or omission which by law is declared to be an offense, but a grand jury is not required to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that an offense has been committed, only a reasonable probability of an offense decided by the collective vote of 9 grand jurists.

And sparrow the vp cannot be impeached but I believe that Congress could still vote to have him removed.

Chuck in Houston for Ira:

I thought you my appreciate this excerpt from a John Dean article that is still on www.truthout.org, which points to a second statute of interest (Title 18, United States Code, Section 641):

"There is no solid information that Rove, or anyone else, violated this law designed to protect covert CIA agents. There is, however, evidence suggesting that other laws were violated. In particular, I have in mind the laws invoked by the Bush Justice Department in the relatively minor leak case that it vigorously prosecuted, though it involved information that was not nearly as sensitive as that which Rove provided Matt Cooper (and possibly others).
"I am referring to the prosecution and conviction of Jonathan Randel. Randel was a Drug Enforcement Agency analyst, a PhD in history, working in the Atlanta office of the DEA. Randel was convinced that British Lord Michael Ashcroft (a major contributor to Britain's Conservative Party, as well as American conservative causes) was being ignored by DEA, and its investigation of money laundering. (Lord Ashcroft is based in South Florida and the off-shore tax haven of Belize.)
"Randel leaked the fact that Lord Ashcroft's name was in the DEA files, and this fact soon surfaced in the London news media. Ashcroft sued, and learned the source of the information was Randel. Using his clout, soon Ashcroft had the US Attorney in pursuit of Randel for his leak.
"By late February 2002, the Department of Justice indicted Randel for his leaking of Lord Ashcroft's name. It was an eighteen count 'kitchen sink' indictment; they threw everything they could think of at Randel. Most relevant for Karl Rove's situation, Count One of Randel's indictment alleged a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 641. This is a law that prohibits theft (or conversion for one's own use) of government records and information for non-governmental purposes. But its broad language covers leaks, and it has now been used to cover just such actions.
"Randel, faced with a life sentence (actually, 500 years) if convicted on all counts, on the advice of his attorney, pleaded guilty to violating Section 641. On January 9, 2003, Randel was sentenced to a year in a federal prison, followed by three years probation. This sentence prompted the US Attorney to boast that the conviction of Randel made a good example of how the Bush Administration would handle leakers."

What's good for the goose ought to be good for the gander too.

Chuck in Houston

This Iraqi blogger has allegedly been arrested without charges. If you remember Raed (from before the war), it's his brother.

http://secretsinbaghdad.blogspot.com/

There should be more information at http://www.oldamericancentury.org

Bush Vows to Fire Anyone Convicted of Leaking:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050718/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_investigation_20;_ylt=An60AdDIKuI5P368BzWP0BVZJ_wA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

From the US Army Hospital in Heidelberg come these LTEs from "Stars and Stripes":

A liberal ‘apologizes’

I — and my other second-rate colleagues on the faculty of University of Maryland University College — would like to apologize to the author of “Leftist ideas rule academia” (letter, July 2) for our spreading of liberal doctrine in our classrooms.

We have been unbelievably inconsiderate in failing to take into consideration the havoc that having to consider alternative points of view creates in the conservative mind. Accordingly, these changes to the UMUC curriculum will be made:

As an English teacher, I take responsibility for promoting what we liberals smugly refer to as “literature,” with its tendency toward asking questions rather than supplying answers. To accommodate conservatives, questions will be mostly eliminated. Hamlet’s “To be or not to be, that is the question” will now be taught as “To be. Yep, that’s the answer.” Trashy liberal novels such as “Huckleberry Finn” will be replaced by “Aesop’s Fables” and “The Collected Writings of Bill O’Reilly.”

History. At no time will America be shown to have done anything morally questionable at any place or under any circumstances. Slavery never happened; or if it did, it was invented by the French.

Geography. Maps will show only the United States and those countries currently supporting us, such as Great Britain and Guam.

The sciences. As every good conservative knows, the universe was created on April 23, 6004 B.C. at 9:23 a.m. Central Standard Time by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh. Everything was perfectly constructed and therefore there is no need for the liberal concept of “evilution.” Other liberal notions to be removed from the classroom will include gravity, the heliocentric solar system (the absurd idea that the Earth goes around the sun — a heresy for which liberal propagandists Galileo and Copernicus were rightly condemned), and the concept of the “round Earth.”

We hope this clears everything up, and, again, we’re really sorry for confusing everybody.

Peyton Glass
Harrogate, United Kingdom

Original letter below:

Leftist ideas rule academia

Kudos to the writer of the June 21 letter “Speech was anti-American” with its denunciation of the graduation speech by German professor Detlef Junker and all things leftist in Europe and academia. I taught courses at the University of Maryland 30 years ago while assigned to U.S. Army Europe. Then, as now, it was a second-rate academic institution, just as Europe is a second-rate, has-been world power.

Why do left-wing academics parade their failed ideas as “free speech”? Try to defend God, marriage, the Constitution, or any conservative value in academia and you will be shouted down. I resigned my commission and joined the Army National Guard after retiring from a career in finance. However, my first retirement job was an economics professor, where I found that there is no academic freedom — nor is there free speech — for conservatives in American academia.

Staff Sgt. Stephen D. Wilson
Camp Doha, Kuwait

Kerryon...

Wonder how many people will catch the key word, "CONVICTED." and how many will fall for it!

Gee...last I knew it took a few years to bring someone to trial and to "convict" anyone of a crime. So Bush is willing to keep a traitor in his house for a couple of years. What's the big deal? It's only national security, you know!!!

(Abridged from Center for American Progress)

ROVE MAY HAVE KNOWN INFO WAS DECLASSIFIED: In an article written in this week's Time magazine entitled "What I Told the Grand Jury," Matt Cooper reviews his notes from a telephone conversation in July 2003 before Robert Novak outed Valerie Plame. Cooper writes, "The notes, and my subsequent e-mails, go on to indicate that Rove told me material was going to be declassified in the coming days that would cast doubt on Wilson's mission and his findings."

CHENEY'S CHIEF OF STAFF WAS A LEAKER: I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, current chief of staff to Vice President Cheney, was identified as a leaker by Matt Cooper. On Meet the Press, Cooper acknowledged that he called Libby for confirmation of the Plame story, and Libby said, "'Yeah, I've heard that too' or words to that effect."

PURPOSE OF CALL BETWEEN COOPER AND ROVE WAS NOT TO TALK ABOUT WELFARE REFORM: After speaking with Rove's attorney Robert Luskin, National Review Online reported, "According to Luskin, the fact that Rove did not call Cooper; that the original purpose of the call, as Cooper told Rove, was welfare reform ... [was an indication] 'that this was not a calculated effort by the White House to get this story out.'" Cooper upends this argument. He writes in Time that earlier that week, he "may have left a message with [Rove's] office asking if I could talk to him about welfare reform. But I can't find any record of talking about it with him on July 11, and I don't recall doing so."

NATIONAL SECURITY
Another National Security Leak That Deserves Investigation

Last August, just as the Democratic National Convention was wrapping up, Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge announced that he was raising the terror alert status to orange due to an "unusually specific" threat against specific buildings, including the New York Stock Exchange in Manhattan and the International Monetary Fund building in Washington, D.C. When pressed to explain why the threat level was raised, U.S. officials revealed that the intelligence had been garnered from an al Qaeda agent named Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan.

LONDON BOMBERS MAY HAVE TIES TO LEAK: After Ridge's announcement in August, the media reported that the source of the information which caused the raised terror alert was information obtained from al Qaeda agent and computer expert Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan. "After his capture he admitted being an al Qaeda member and agreed to send e-mails to his contacts," a Pakistani intelligence source told Reuters. "He sent encoded e-mails and received encoded replies. He's a great hacker and even the U.S. agents said he was a computer whiz." Pakistani intelligence officials were using Khan to track down al Qaeda operatives worldwide. U.S. intelligence officials are believed to have revealed the name of Khan, and Condi Rice, appearing on CNN, confirmed that his name was disclosed "on background" by U.S. officials to the media. Khan led authorities to another militant named Ahmed Khalfan Ghailini. Officials reported at the time of the Khan's and Ghailini's arrests that their computers contained photographs of potential targets including "underpasses beneath London buildings." At the time, British officials thought they had foiled a London subway plot by arresting more than a dozen Britons of Pakistani descent. ABC News' terrorism consultant Alexis Debat reported that the London bombers may be tied directly to the leaking of Khan's name. "It is very likely this group was activated last year after the other group was arrested," Debat said.

THE PLOTS THICKEN

Posted by: sparrow at July 18, 2005 12:21 PM

Bingo. What that word tells me is that Bush is fairly certain Rove will avoid conviction.

It's okay to have a traitor in the White House as long as he isn't convicted.

Chuck n Baku for All:

I quickly perused the yahoo article KerryOn62 posted the link to above, and two connected thinngs jumped out at me. The first is the obvious one that "straight-talker I-mean-what-I-say Bush is now hedging like crazy: he said he'd fire any such leaker then, now he says he'll only fire a convicted criminal. Bush supporters that criticized Clinton for being slippery with words should be ashamed of themselves. Secondly, this is a quote from Bush from the article:

"'It's best people wait until the investigation is complete before you jump to conclusions. I don't know all the facts. I want to know all the facts,' Bush said Monday. "I would like this to end as quickly as possible. If someone committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration.'

Actually, more than one person in his administration has committed a crime and still works for him -- Elliott Abrams comes to mind, although, if memory serves, Bush's dad pardoned Abrams so maybe that doesn't count. (As a memory aid, this is the wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Abrams.) Actually, that sounds like another slippery hedge.

Chuck in Houston

Oh my ..

Seymour M. Hersh | Did Washington Try to Manipulate Iraq's Election?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071805I.shtml
"The election clock was running down, and people were panicking," said one of Hersh's inside sources. "The polls showed that the Shiites were going to run off with the store. The Administration had to do something."

Well I guess after US 2004 election, they had a little practice!

Cheney's Chief of Staff 'Second Source for CIA Leak'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071805J.shtml
When Matthew Cooper named Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, "Scooter" Libby, as a second source, the Time reporter undercut repeated White House denials.

Rove, Dems, Iraq: Sidney Blumenthal vs. Norman Solomon
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071805K.shtml
Two frequent truthout contributors - Sidney Blumenthal and Norman Solomon - duke it out on Amy Goodman's Democracy Now.

[local militias,another step closer to civil war]

Frustrated Iraqis ready to take law into own hands

By Luke Baker
Mon Jul 18, 9:03 AM ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqis have begun barricading themselves in their homes and forming neighborhood militias in an effort to fend off relentless suicide attacks, residents in the capital said on Monday.

The measures come amid waning confidence in the Iraqi police and other security forces as they struggle to get on top of the two-year-old insurgency. In the latest attack, 98 people were killed by a suicide truck bomb south of Baghdad on Saturday.

A senior member of Iraq's parliament on Sunday called for popular militias to be created as an extra line of defense against the militants, and criticized the government for failing to stop the bombs.

"The plans of the interior and defense ministries to impose security in Iraq have failed," Khudair al-Khuzai told parliament during a heated session following the latest blast. "We need to bring back popular militias," he said, without expanding.

While there was some backing for his proposal, there are concerns militias formed along sectarian lines could lead the country ever closer to civil war, with Shi'ite and Sunni Arabs already involved in tit-for-tat killings.

Despite that fear, local militias have already been formed in several Baghdad areas, and at least two Shi'ite political movements have their own powerful private armies.

continue~
http://tinyurl.com/7cqye

How do you spell Iraq?

V-I-E-T-N-A-M

Curious if others caught this outrageous Karl Rove quote that says that if you are a Democrat anything goes with this Administration. He can break laws, harass, etc. He's a Democrat was his answer..Sorry to draw analogies but isn't that the exact same type of laguage we heard on Nixon's tapes?

undercutting Wilson's credibility . . . A source directly familiar with information provided to prosecutors said Rove's interest was so strong that it prompted questions in the White House. When asked at one point why he was pursuing the diplomat so aggressively, Rove reportedly responded: 'He's a Democrat.' Rove then cited Wilson's campaign donations, which leaned toward Democrats, the person familiar with the case said." (per the Los Angeles Times)

You think no one is speaking of that "dalin" Rove abroad? Hell, no.

First, you have to relocate yourselves. Main news in France, happen twice a day and last for 45 mns (on top you have the news channels, but those are not the ones I'm telling about, they belong to private channels), and they are the ones watched by a large majority of people.

And who got a long treat tonight? Rove, and only Rove with a long explanation of the Valérie Plame/Joe Biden case...

Comments are very clear : he leaked and cheated.

It's good to have a fair press.

Hey ALl,
I'm in NYC for the week and it's brutally hot here--that global warming thing seems to be picking up here.

Anyone planning on participating in the July 23 events? Please say yes!

Anyone planning on participating in the July 23 events? Please say yes!

Posted by: Karen at July 18, 2005 02:45 PM

I'm planning to do the Maxine Waters event in Los Angeles, if I can sneak past my neocon family members successfully.

Bush won't fire Rove unless he is convicted?
Leaking is ok?

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! These are the most read news stories on the WHITE HOUSE LIES AND IS CORRUPT SCANDAL, in order of "relevance"

Bush Focuses on Crime in Agent Leak, Backs Off Earlier Language
Bloomberg - American Business News 

Bush Vows to Fire Anyone Convicted of Leak
Washington Post, DC 

Bush sidestepping over future of Rove
Bangkok Post, Thailand 

Bush vows to sack CIA leak culprit
Scotsman, UK - 1 hour ago

No names, but Rove was leaker
Australian, Australia - 2 hours ago

Bush: CIA leaker would be fired if crime committed
Reuters - British

Bush says he'll fire leaking staffer if crime committed
USA Today - US (dumbed down)

Bush: Any Criminals in Leak to Be Fired
San Francisco Chronicle

Bush reiterates commitment to oust anyone found to violated the law
Boston Herald, MA 

Bush: CIA leaker would be fired if crime committed
Reuters 

Bush Says He's Wants `All the Facts' on Leak Probe (Update1)
Bloomberg - 3 hours ago

CIA leak linked to Cheney staffer
Age, Australia 

Rove steered reporter towards CIA agent
Sydney Morning Herald  Australia 

White House mum over Time journo's discloser
Financial Express, India 

Reporter links Rove and Cheney aide to CIA leak
International Herald Tribune, France 

Top White House advisers named as CIA leak sources
Mail & Guardian Online

From Mark Felt to Karl Rove
Washington Post, DC 

Cheney aide also linked to CIA leak
Chicago Tribune, IL 

To name or not to name; law cares not
Chicago Tribune, IL - 8 hours ago

Cheney aide confirmed CIA agent's identity, reporter says
CNN 

Wilson vindicated but badly bruised
Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA

Reporter ties Cheney aide to CIA story
Boston Globe, MA 

Give Rove a medal — and deliver it to his prison cell
Houston Chronicle,

Leak Probe Was Told of White House Interest in Wilson
Los Angeles Times, CA

Special Prosecutor's Probe Centers on Rove, Memo, Phone Calls
Bloomberg 

Rove, Libby identified CIA officer
USA Today 

Top White House advisers named as CIA leak sources
Guardian Unlimited, UK 

Inquiry May Hinge on What the Leaker Knew
New York Times, NY 

Reporter Says He First Learned of CIA Operative From Rove
New York Times, NY 

I'm planning to do the Maxine Waters event in Los Angeles, if I can sneak past my neocon family members successfully.

Posted by: AllyMcLesbian at July 18, 2005 02:59 PM

That's great Ally! Maybe we can send you an American flag shirt or something--you know, throw them off the trail...

Anyone else???

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/526

Joe Wilson will be live on Ed Schultz some time this hour, and will be taking questions from callers. Anyone with intelligent questions for Joe, please call!

http://www.wegoted.com/

A lot of Republican voters are starting to wake up just because they've been listening to Ed. I know he doesn't walk in lock-step with all progressives; I see that as a good thing. He's reaching people I could never in a million years reach.

BTW, if anyone here has Comcast as an internet provider, please check this out:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/794

Anyone planning on participating in the July 23 events? Please say yes!

Posted by: Karen at July 18, 2005 02:45 PM

Yes, we're just setting it up. We only have dial-up out here in the sticks.... not sure how that will work. If it doesn't work out, we'll be attending another party in a nearby town.

Special pour Andree (recent titles):

I will try to translate - some will be Canadian, Algerian. Canoe is Canadian. 190 million people use French as their first language.

Toute personne impliquée dans les fuites sur un agent de la CIA ...
EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE OUTING OF THE CIA AGENT..
Nouvel Observateur 

La prise de tête Karl Rove
l'Humanité 
THE PRICE ON THE HEAD OF KARL ROVE

Karl Rove est bel et bien la source de l'affaire Plame
KARL ROVE IS (FOR SURE?) THE SOURCE OF THE PLAME AFFAIR
Radio-Canada 

Le chef de cabinet de Cheney a été une autre source au sujet de ...
CHENEY'S AIDE HAS BEEN ANOTHER SOURCE IN THE SUBJECT OF ...
Matinternet 

Karl Rove a dit devant un grand jury fédéral avoir appris par ...
KARL ROVE SAID BFORE A FEDERAL GRAND JURY TO HAVE LEARNED
Nouvel Observateur - 15 juil 2005

Affaire Karl Rove : George Bush soutient son conseiller
KARL ROVE AFFAIR: GEORGE BUSH SUPPORTS HIS AIDE

Le pit-bull du président
THE PIT BULL OF THE PRESIDENT!
Le Devoir (Abonnement) 

Affaire Plame: Bush soutient Rove mordicus
France 3 
PLAME AFFAIR: BUSH FOUND ROVE (?DEAD?)

Bush défend mollement son proche conseiller
Libération 
BUSH DEFENDS (??) HIS CLOSE ADVISOR

Affaire Plame: Bush refuse de préjuger de l'enquête
PLAME AFFAIR: BUSH REFUSES TO PREJUDE THE INQUIRY
Radio-Canada 

Le “cerveau” de Bush à l’origine de fuites à la presse
The "BRAIN" OF BUSH HAS (??) ORIGIN IN THE PRESS
Liberté-Algérie

Etats-Unis L’éminence grise de Bush sur la sellette
BOLSTER THE US GREY EMINENCE OF BUSH (?)
Canoë 

Le chef de cabinet de Cheney a été une autre source au sujet de
CHENEY'S CABINET CHIEF HAS BEEN AN OTHER SOURCE
BRANCHEZ-VOUS.com

Bush ne veut pas présumer de la culpabilité de Rove
BUSH WON'T PRESUME THE GUILT OF ROVE
Le Devoir

Affaire Rove
AFFAIR ROVE
Canoë

Karen

Comcast blames Symantec, but they are not the only high-speed option in this area. There is a local company called Speakeasy. I know where the building is. They have a coffee house, they have entertainment. Comcast is a megalith.

Symantic has a "worldwide homepage." The site index is also in Japanese characters. They say that "information is the currency of the global economy." They have facilities in more than 40 countries. This is their CEO:

John W. Thompson was the quintessential big company executive, fitting into the highly disciplined ranks of IBM and becoming general manager of IBM Americas, a 30,000-employee unit producing $37 billion in revenue. After 28 years with Big Blue, Thompson established himself as a polished manager and decision-maker in the software industry. "I don't have an entrepreneurial bone in my body," he once said.

Guess what - he gave $25,000 to the DNC. It may be an honest mistake, and if so, I hope that he is humbled and embarrassed.

Meanwhile, I'll call Comcast & see what I can find out.

Alternatives:

Speakeasy - For Open Minds
is how it bills itself
http://www.speakeasy.net

There is also Qwest and Earthlink

Hey have you all heard about this guy?

Paul Hackett, marine who served in Iraq, Democrat running for congress in a Republican district in Ohio... voting is on August 2.

http://www.hackettforcongress.com/

Here are some other interesting things on that subject...

"The state of Ohio may be edging toward a cataclysmic color shift: from red to blue."
http://www.hackettforcongress.com/index.php?page=display&id=78

"If you think America is on the right track and we need more of the same, I'm not your candidate," said Hackett, a Marine reservist who returned from Iraq earlier this year. "The 2nd District ... doesn't need another rubber stamp."
http://www.hackettforcongress.com/index.php?page=display&id=84

sounds great...

It's good to have a fair press.

Posted by: Andrée - France at July 18, 2005 02:43 PM

hey, don't rub it in! ;-)

DiAnne:

W's goal post keeps moving from I will terminate anyone associated with this leak, to I will fire anyone criminally involved in this leak.
Next we will hear the goal post moved to anyone convicted by an impartial jury, then anyone where my US Supreme Ct.upholds their conviction and anyone I don't decide to pardon if convicted.
Perhaps we need to have flip flops slapped together at W's next public appearance and demand a commitment that W not pardon anyone convicted in this matter including G. Gordon Libby.

Native Texan I believe that you were the one that posted the story about a breakin in the Columbus Ohio Democratic headqtrs a month or so ago (this was the second time that office was broken into) and I have never heard the follow up as to whether anyone from the Ohio Republican Party was ever caught.

DiAnne, wasn't it a few months ago that Earthlink was exposed as a major Repulican contributor, along the lines of Walmart and Ford?

I own a Ford and I wrote a long letter to the FMC explaining why I will never buy another one.

Karen, happy you're in town. Seconding here the oppressive humidity.

These are the NYC DSM events. I will try to be at the demonstration, but will definitely be at Ethical Culture. My last trip there was post election with Greg Palast and Richard Clarke, and an unexpected event to remember.

10:00 AM The NYC Downing Street Coalition will be holding a demonstration outside NBC NEWS at Rockefeller Center on DSM Day, south side of 49th Street - smack in the middle of 5th and 6th Avenues, right outside the NBC NEWS Building.

2:00 PM Coalition event-Torture and Lies - Who Is Accountable? New York Society for Ethical Culture, 2 W. 64th St. at Central Park West. Speakers: Rep. Maurice Hinchey, Hon. Liz Holtzman, Randi Rhodes, Moderator: Bob Fertik, President of Democrats.com.

Maybe meet at Ozzie's this week? Petitioning and pre-primary for uphill camdidates have taken time away from blogging. My apologies. The after story will make quite a post, as much is a reflection of Bloomberg's NY, kept mum like Bush America with big money interest and media, as well as labor favoring runaway, unwise development. Developers always divide and conquer labor with hyped promises of jobs.

Please be in touch. And, Matt, how about Saturday?

Chuck in Houston for the other two-Texans:

This Ohio issue is interesting. I doubt it makes too much difference in the larger scheme of things, but I wonder whether, insofar as the Rove/Libby hit-squad is tied up trying to save their gurus, this OH congressional district isn't a very interesting opportunity? The Rove machine is very good at tying unrelated things together into a diatribe -- "Rove's being attacked because the partisan opposition doesn't have a postitive agenda so all they can do is obstruct our positive vision for [blah, blah, blah, you get the point]." It would be a nice change to have a guy win in such a district on a progressive agenda -- in other words, on the bread-and-butter issues that need to be brought to the front of the line. Seems like it could be a nice local-color story on the national level: look what can be achieved when voters aren't subjected to orchestrated smear campaigns and the politics of division!

Chuck in Houston

Posted by: AllyMcLesbian at July 18, 2005 02:59 PM

Ally,
You need my official I Like IKE button....
That will be sure to get you in.

It looks like we have a NYC DCP contingent for Saturday!

Marjorie G--email me, OK?

Matt--calling you manana (meetings tonight).
Anyone else?

New Jersey?
Connecticut?

Hope I remember your email. If you don't receive it pronto, please contact me at home after 7:00. Hoping you have the number!

I'll be there on Saturday with laptop.

Looking forward to seeing you again, Matt!

Atrios posted this interesting tidbit today...

After the oath was administered, Bush told the staff – and 100 or so family members on hand – "You all are here because you have my full confidence."

"Today, everything is so promising and new," the new president said. "I'm hoping the day will never come when any of us take this place for granted."

Bush warned that he expected his White House staff to meet the highest ethical standards, avoiding not only violations of law, but even the appearance of impropriety.

"We must remember the high standards that come with high office," he said. "This begins careful adherence with the rules. I expect every member of this administration to stay well within the boundaries [that] define legal and ethical conduct.

"No one in the White House should be afraid to confront the people they work for over ethical concerns, and no one should hesitate to confront me as well."

Bush told his staff that he sees civility as a central part of the required behavior of White House staff. "There is no excuse for arrogance and never a reason for disrespect toward others," he said. "I expect each of you … to be an example of humility and decency and fairness."

And he concluded that the ultimate goal of White House service is to advance the agenda Bush was elected on. "We are here for a reason," Bush said. "You and I and the vice president share the same goals for our country … we are here to make progress. We are not here just to mark time."

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_07_17_atrios_archive.html#112171439662752403

Link to original speech: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/22/213715.shtml

Posted by: madame defarge at July 18, 2005 05:59 PM

What happened???

When they sent him in for a tune up and maintenance, someone either re-programmed him, or crossed a couple wires.

And here's another outstanding member of the Senate with an impeccible work history with business partners of utmost integrity...

Auto dealer's future unclear
By Kevin Woster, Journal Staff Writer

RAPID CITY -- The clouds hanging over Family Automotive on Thursday afternoon symbolized much more than rain.

The economic horizon is uncertain for the Cambell Street Hyundai dealer — formerly Dan Nelson Hyundai and Dan Nelson Isuzu — as a two-state automobile group founded by Rapid City native Dan Nelson faces federal bankruptcy proceedings and a class-action lawsuit in Iowa over questionable business practices.

Faltering finances and legal action have all but destroyed Dan Nelson Automotive Group Inc., which was headquartered in Sioux Falls and operated car dealerships there, in Sioux City, Council Bluffs and Des Moines, Iowa, as well as in Rapid City.

And now it could produce political fallout for Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., a close friend and political ally of Nelson. Before his election to the Senate in a historic win over incumbent Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., last November, Thune sat on the board of directors of a Sioux Falls bank that granted millions of dollars in loans to Nelson Automotive. MetaBank, formerly First Federal Bank, is now trying to collect those defaulted loans in the bankruptcy proceedings.

Thune critics, primarily Daschle supporters and former employees, have been questioning the propriety of Thune's relationship with Nelson and the bank that loaned him money. On Thursday afternoon, the South Dakota Democratic Party officially joined the fray with a news release by chairwoman Judy Olson Duhamel of Rapid City.

The release pointed out that Nelson was a top adviser to Thune during his previous congressional campaigns, had contributed to his campaigns and received nearly $90,000 from Thune's campaign in 2004 for vehicle leases and office space.

There's more at http://rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2005/07/08/news/local/news04.txt

Posted by: Truth Shall Prevail at July 18, 2005 06:12 PM

I figure he was practicing on how deliver lies with a straight face (or cowboy grimace)...

Rove is a thing.
The mainstream press is (at least) feeling uneasy.
What about the future? The attacks go on day after day in Irak.
A very bad memo (for Tony) was issued today, and the Brits speak about their troops starting to leave...
What is George going to do with all his big lies, that are just slapping back to his face nowadays?
"Il faut savoir jusqu'où on peut aller trop loin"
(You have to know how too far you can go)

Oh, Andree',

We just appreciate you so much! It is so good of you to share your perspective (views) with us!
Makes us feel not so alone.

Today's media on t.v. was defending Bush and Rove a little more, I thought. Taking jabs at the left. But then, it was a lady commentator who no doubt knows on which side her bread is buttered, since she is on CNN, and it is corporate owned and appears right leaning many times.

How far to go? Greed and power cause drunkeness and silliness sometimes, no? I think they go too far already - I hope the face gets slapped!

Love to you -

"I'll be there on Saturday with laptop."
~~Posted by: Matthew Carnicelli at July 18, 2005 05:38 PM

"Looking forward to seeing you again, Matt!"
~~Posted by: Marjorie G at July 18, 2005 05:45 PM

**sniff** have an espresso for poor 'ol me stuck in Mayberry, okay?

What about the future? The attacks go on day after day in Irak.
A very bad memo (for Tony) was issued today, and the Brits speak about their troops starting to leave...

Andree',

We are of course concerned about the future. It seems uncertain, but we work for the best.

The memo for Tony, you say was bad? Will look for it here.

I own a Ford and I wrote a long letter to the FMC explaining why I will never buy another one.

Posted by: Amy at July 18, 2005 04:28 PM

Good for you! I am driving my first Ford, which will of course be my last as well. (It was a total piece of junk as well.)

What really drove me beyond the edge was Ford dealers' preferential treatment for those SUVs and their drivers, which are responsible for environmental destruction and more money sent to the Saudi terrorists.

Ally,
You need my official I Like IKE button....
That will be sure to get you in.

Posted by: battlebob at July 18, 2005 05:15 PM

Thanks for the offer Bob! :)

Actually, since Maxine Waters is holding her event near the airport (which is near the ocean anyway), I'll just say that I'm going to the beach - then go somewhere and change into a suit. :)

Posted by: madame defarge at July 18, 2005 06:17 PM

No, no, no... have you not learned anything yet from the Smirking Chump?

When he says one thing, it clearly means the opposite.

"No one in the White House should be afraid to confront the people they work for over ethical concerns, and no one should hesitate to confront me as well."

Yeah right! Snicker, snicker. Be afwaid, be vewwy afwaid.

"There is no excuse for arrogance and never a reason for disrespect toward others," he said. "I expect each of you … to be an example of humility and decency and fairness."

RIMSHOT!

Remember, with this White House, as John Kerry said repeatedly during the campaign, paraphrasing, "Just because you say it's so doesn't make it true".

Words without deeds.

**sniff** have an espresso for poor 'ol me stuck in Mayberry, okay?

Posted by: kj inruralredbutwantstobeinbluenyc at July 18, 2005 06:48 PM

Yes, y'all. I sit here salivating (literally) at the reading of your plans "uptown". May not be able to go all the way to Minneapolis for this rally, need to fly home in the next few weeks, my parents are not well, and are asking me to come home.

With you indeed, in spirit. Changing rural red, one person at a time.

"With you indeed, in spirit. Changing rural red, one person at a time."
~~Posted by: Truth Shall Prevail at July 18, 2005 06:58 PM

Ain't that the truth. LOL

Ain't that the truth. LOL

Posted by: kj inruralredbutwantstobeinbluenyc at July 18, 2005 07:01 PM

LOL

Posted by: Truth Shall Prevail at July 18, 2005 07:04 PM

Have you tried hypnosis yet? Spiking the water cooler didn't work for me... and, sadly, there's no money for bribes.

How about a little humor to brighten up your day?

Check out the latest two articles posted by General J.C. Christian, Patriot - Here are a couple teasers:

The End of the Terri Schiavo Controversy -
- Jeff Gannon performed a medical examination on Schiavo and determined that she could be saved if the ANWR was opened up for oil exploration.

A Little Campaign Advice With a Coingate Twist for:
Ohio State Rep. Jean Schmidt
Candidate, US House of Representatives (OH-02)

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/

Truth Sall Prevail,

I e-mailed the memo this morning, middle of the night for you, to DiAnne. She has it, and it's very, very bad for Tony Blair.
Of course the link is made between the last London bombings and Blair following Bush in Irak.

I'm going to repeat myself over, and over, and over....out of history. There won't be any solution in Irak out of partition. Just study their history back to Mesopotamia.
The boarders we know were drawn in an office, in 1921, by Lord Balfour's secretary ..;totally ignoring the mores, the tribes, the religions... This is the issue

One thing shocked me badly last week . On July 14 the world stood still for the Engish victims, which is normal, but if you put the rates bits to bits, we should be doing the same for Irak every day...except we don't do it.
it's just regular news : attacks, bombs, deaths, blood, wounds, sirens, bodies, horror..
They are just like us. Everybody cries the same.
The day we do what we think...we'll live in peace.

Please get involved with Downing Street Memo activities for next Sat. the 23rd, however you can. I'll be blogging from Seattle Labor Temple.

Confirmed:

Congressman Jim McDermott, from my district in Seattle
(as seen in Fahrenheit 9/11 - he is a psychiatrist & has been in over 200 countries, worked with AIDS patients in Africa & studied effects of depleted uranium on Gulf War vets since the 1991 war)
http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/

Congressman Jay Inslee, from district north of here, encompassing Everett w/Naval station
He is an environmentalist and Iraq war critic, also concerned with media consolidation.
http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/
http://www.jayinslee.com/
Info on Downing Street Memo & bloggers, from his website
http://www.jayinslee.com/index.php?page=display&id=68

I will blog for http://www.democracycellproject.net, http://www.afterdowningstreet.org and http://www.backbonecampaign.org and should be able to upload and/or link to photos as well.

Watch for live blogging from NYC, Detroit and more!

"The End of the Terri Schiavo Controversy -
- Jeff Gannon performed a medical examination on Schiavo and determined that she could be saved if the ANWR was opened up for oil exploration."
~~Posted by: Truth Shall Prevail at July 18, 2005 07:20 PM

Thank you. I really appreciate the laugh. LOL

Hey...how come nobody's calling Bush a FLIP-FLOPPER on his comments about leaking the CIA agent? I haven't seen flipping and flopping like that since I last caught a fish.

Truth Shall Prevail

I'll be surprised if Andree is still up after midnight in Paris - on the other hand, maybe not!
I have "the memo" - it's a French article but it was a link in red that lets you download a pdf file. I can post it on here too. I saw more reference to it somewhere - American Progress Report? Well worth looking at.

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=311829

Matt, Karen, Marjorie
Enjoy our time in NYC & hope it cools off a little! It seems like just a few days ago I was crossing the Brooklyn Bridge with Marjorie & was too rushed to get ahold of Matt.

Truth Shall Prevail, KJ
I used to live in a "rural red" for quite awhile (South Dakota) so I read with interest of the Senator Thune story posted above, & sent it off to some upper midwesterners!

I'm not certain my link will open, but it's by LE MONDE (your WaPo) on civil war about to break in Irak.

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3218,36-673357@51-627391,0.html

I've been ranting about it for months here.

We really have different news.

If the link didn't open , go on Googles news France, you'll find it. Don't expect for a translation, there is none.
Désolée, we have our news in our language.

Karen will be in NYC too? It really will be a reunion.

DiAnne, I spent a few days with my Bush voting father-in-law. We talked for hours down on the dock while he fished (don't tell PETA) and he sounded every bit the die-hard liberals we are. It was a welcome and refreshing change from previous conversations.

Posted by: kj inruralredbutwantstobeinbluenyc at July 18, 2005 07:17 PM

LOL.

Not yet - but I'm open to ANYTHING that works.
'Round here, a little fried chicken, Franzia table wine, and cold beer gets a little mileage.

Andree is still up - see?
I just heard from my friend Marc (also from Paris but in NYC). He is planning his cross-country Greyhound trip, to see "the real America." He calls it "deep America." His trip will take him from NYC to Chicago to St. Louis to Denver to Salt Lake City to Boise to Portland to Seattle.

Andree,
Some of our newspapers are alright - NY Times, WA Post, Seattle Times, SF Chronicle etc. It's a "red" "blue" split. TV is mostly a lost wasteland. There are some radio options too - Democracy Now, Air America, NPR (sort of) & can get streaming BBC sometimes.

When I was flying, I actually watched O'Reilly on Fox & he called BBC "far left."

But the BBC got back (see below).

A contributor to Fox said after the London bombings that "the BBC almost operates as a foreign registered agent of Hezbollah and some of the other jihadist groups".

On the Fox website, there was an opinion piece "How Jane Fonda and the BBC put you in danger".

I am writing this in a building which was bombed by Irish terrorists. My colleagues and I are living in a city recovering from the wounds inflicted last week.

If I may leave our customary impartiality aside for a moment, the comments made on Fox News are beneath contempt. "

Posted by: Truth Shall Prevail at July 18, 2005 08:00 PM
LOL

Ham and beans and cornbread go over big here. With bacon in the beans, of course. And pass the salt, will ya? Bud beer, maybe Schlitz. d;-b

DiAnne,

I'm up. I've been getting used to it with my last everlasting birthday party for my daughter...

And when I was in the kitchen, I was training the kids too...

Them : "You got a mail from an American democrat"????

I :That was from DiAnnne.
"....and you know what is going on with Rove (??? I yelled to them), and the English leaving Irak (??? re yelling)

Them : "Camille ( my daughter,who was having her birthday party) is really good at American politics...but we know less than she knows"

I : $@& Got on explaining.

Thank you Ma. At least I do what I can for you.
Yes, my children, besides speaking perfectly English, know what is going on in your country.
What about yours?

We had a beautiful birthday party....except I wished I had a spare pair of feet to walk from the dining room to the kitchen. Old French flats....yes with the mouldings, the marble chimney mantle pieces, and I just play the lady and the maid;
You call it romantic, I call it hell......

DiAnne,

I can't open PDF files. My computer and I have to have a little talk! Anything hotmail?

Tnx.

Andree',

The days ahead in Iraq are sure to be even more bloody. Our poor soldiers and the Iraqi citizens!
We have all known civil war was greatly probable. We, the people, have to bear the casualties.

There has never been a democracy in Iraq, you are correct, Andree'. What do government leaders care? They want the oil - if the people all around them kill each other, oh, well........

I thought the same as you.....the world paid it's respects to the British, as well they should. But the same thought, the same consideration, should be shown every single day for the dying in Iraq. Every day.

I am most interested to see the article of which you speak, about Blair.

For anybody who didn't see Bush's face during the 'qualification' prevarication, er, statement, I highly recommend checking the CSPAN site (or similar source) for a replay.

This week would be a good time to poll his dishonesty ratings again. i wonder how Fox spun this one

Posted by: Veritas at July 18, 2005 07:25 PM

Good point- LOL

Anyone else notice that NYT and WaPo are still given to the Rovian spin and apologia? Argh, blueness aside, I'll take honest and fair. No wonder Financial Times is out-ranking the Times.

DiAnne, with Alan's gung-ho efforts at speaking French, we are now getting a super-channel for 24 hrs. news in French. Still won't help his tortured accent, but I love his spirit.

That's the kind of article I can read about Blair and Irak :
http://www.lexpress.fr/info/infojour/reuters.asp?id=1457&1706

But for heaven sake go on Google news. That's what I do every morning to check the news out of my own country.

Andree

is STILL up! It's almost 2 AM in Paris, I think! When I get over there I'm going to stay up late every night & then when I return & have to get up at 6 AM to work, I won't even have jet lag! If your flat is like my friends' who live within a mile of you, the kitchen is way at the front and the dining room is way at the other end so yes you have to play maid & can wear out your feet in the course of a night! It was fun to hang out with those friends in NYC last weekend - they swapped flats with some New Yorkers who are still in their Paris apartment.

Why don't we start a home swap program through DCP?! Cell swap? Something like that - complete barter.

This is the actual website:
http://www.homeexchange.com
Stay in France:
http://www.homeexchange.com/n_region3.php?country=France&r=France
Stay in Washington state:
http://www.homeexchange.com/n_region3.php?state=Washington&r=USA
Amazing number of countries!

Truth Shall Prevail
I shall see if it's possible to cut & paste from a pdf file into a long text file.

Marjorie G
Alan was a real trooper. Marc enjoyed speaking French with him & especially about economics.
Marc is the one who will be making the cross-country Greyhound trip.

I think for news - we have to read - between - the - lines. It would make sense to read about how propaganda is constructed. Of course he's going to try to smooth it over - he's the President (Select) of the United States.

Truth Shall Prevail
It worked to send the content in one long email.

What’s been overlooked, however, is another part of Cooper’s account. Cooper said his notes reveal that Rove then added that “material was going to be declassified in the coming days that would cast doubt on Wilson’s mission and his findings.” In ending the conversation, Rove said, “I’ve already said too much,” according to Cooper. [Time, July 25, 2005, issue]

Rove’s assertion that he knew about plans to declassify material on Wilson indicates that Rove was not just a loose-lipped talker repeating stuff he’d heard from reporters, but he was a participant in internal White House discussions about how to counteract Wilson’s criticisms by releasing then-secret information.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/071805.html

DiAnne,

I'm OK about your idea; You already know how the place, the kids, the friends look like....except I have to get rid of them....all.

All going to Seattle?

DiAnne,

Thanks!!! So much!!! I have been looking for it.

Sorry about how cut and paste carries over squigly doo-dads. Not sure how to eliminate that.
Cut, paste onto a document, then onto blog post?

DiAnne

George has been elevated with good massaging to be POTUS, but remember he was goon enforcer for his Dad's campaign. There could be protection with plausible deniability, but I think Rove tells all. Shrub would not hesitate to lie under oath. They are both so beyond the pale and whatever moral myth has been constructed.

Alan very much enjoyed Marc's company. We went to Bastille Day for some awful crepes yesterday. Our neighborhood one last week looked better by comparison. Authentically what, I don't know, but friendlier with a game of sand pits and silver balls.

Cut, paste onto a document, then onto blog post?
Posted by: Truth Shall Prevail at July 18, 2005 08:58 PM

--Cut & paste into NotePad-- it doesn't support formatting.

--You can remove or replace extraneous characters with the Find/Replace functionality, but usually the odd characters will have disappeared from the Cut & Paste

--After pasting into NotePad copy again & paste into blog.

Posted by: DiAnne at July 18, 2005 08:44 PM

Yes, I am all for that! And I am sure KJ will be, too!

You can stay at my place here in this town of 1200, and I will stay in NYC or Paris.

It's a treat, you guys! I'll bet there are cows out here you've not seen the likes of! If you wait 3 weeks, the corn will be high enough to see from the road! LOL!

The latest spin: John Fund (of the WSJ) is saying that Joe Wilson has admitted that his wife was not a covert agent, and hence Rove (or anyone else) cannot be guilty of a crime. He was making a big deal about how no one is looking into Wilson's motives - while simultaneously refusing to look into the mirror, and identify himself as a tool of the Bush Administration.

I used to watch the NEWS HOUR with Leher,however since the Rove thing they haven't addressed it once! But just wait,tonight they have on Ken Mehlman...NOT watching form this vantage point.

Gwen Ifill allowed Mehlman to spin, spin, spin.

Truth,

I have no cows in Paris, though I know how to milk them, but can take you to my family in Brittany. Old Celtic mores and legends. The most beautiful sea landscapes, sea food and Celtic festivals.

If you are a good girl, my uncle will introduce his cows to you... I don't even tell you about the beautiful Renaissance Cruxifix and the church in their village.
And you have my aunt's little traditional cottage dating back to 1750.

Bloody old French, but that's everyday life for us. We cannot change it.
It's just family stuff.

(Bad report for Tony Blair on my news again.)

To me it's normal, to you....it's a dream.

Yes - for home exchange, I have the John Kerry room in the basement. I think NYC or Paris is a fair trade for ND or Missouri, because it's then possible to have the "deep America" experience, like Marc will have. If he has his laptop, maybe he can blog.

Andree,
I could take 10 or so French teenagers if they don't mind pillows & sleeping bags. I don't care if they stay up all night doing karaoke, as that is pretty normal around here!

Speaking of karaoke, we just went through the "Rhythm and Blues Songbook" we got at the library & it's pretty inspiring.

WAR .. What is it good for .. absolutely nothing

- that one is even in there

latest ABC Poll: Bu$h/Rove spin game, not working so well

Poll: Many Doubt White House Cooperation in CIA Leak Probe
Most Say Rove Should Lose Job if He Leaked Classified Information

Analysis by GARY LANGER

July 18, 2005 — Just a quarter of Americans think the White House is fully cooperating in the federal investigation of the leak of a CIA operative's identity, a number that's declined sharply since the investigation began. And three-quarters say that if presidential adviser Karl Rove was responsible for leaking classified information, it should cost him his job.

Skepticism about the administration's cooperation has jumped. As the initial investigation began in September 2003, nearly half the public, 47 percent, believed the White House was fully cooperating. That fell to 39 percent a few weeks later, and it's lower still, 25 percent, in this new ABC News poll.

snip~

There's less division on consequences: 75 percent say Rove should lose his job if the investigation finds he leaked classified information. That includes sizable majorities of Republicans, independents and Democrats alike — 71, 74 and 83 percent, respectively.

At the same time, in September 2003 more Americans — 91 percent — said someone who leaked classified information should be fired. The question at that time did not identify Rove, the White House deputy chief of staff and one of George W. Bush's closest advisers, as the possible source of the information.

Should Karl Rove Be Fired If He Leaked Classified Information?
Yes No
All 75% 15%
Republicans 71 17
Independents 74 17
Democrats 83 12

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PollVault/story?id=949950

Andree,
I am wondering what is normal here but seems exotic for French travellers?

In NYC, I showed my French friends what a barber pole was - the striped thing outside a barber shop. They called me later to tell me they saw one in an Edward Hopper painting and wouldn't have known what it was.

Today I was in L'Occitane & the clerk was excited because there were people in there who were actually speaking French (unusual - usually it's just college kids). They had shea butter things half price.

I think we could all learn from exchange and what is "common and ordinary" to us locals might be "exotic" to visitors. The nice thing about home exchange is that you can also exchange vehicles, movie recommendations, books, restaurant reviews and even eat each others' food.

When I stayed with my French friends in the home swap in NYC Upper West Side I snooped at the books and they had Al Franken and Richard C Clarke. & Marjorie had a bumper sticker on her fridge that said Kerry really won.

What we really ought to do is make a DCP blogger cell swap reality show for network tv. We need more foreign bloggers though - I think we have most of the states. I wonder if Rossian would be up for a swap?

OT

Dick,

Were you as surprised as I was to see the stock market actually rally after the London terrorist attacks? There must be a myriad of reasons for this. One reason that comes to mind is that the price of oil will continue to rise. This will substanitially benefit the large multinational corporations. These corporations have found an unstoppable economic engine and work force in China. China will continue to grow and that is a given fact. We will see stock markets continue to rise after major terror attacks because China's ability to provide consumer products will continue to rapidly grow. The price of oil will have little effect on China's ability to absorb these increased energy costs. Because oil prices are higher and China can absorb that cost and pass it on to consumers, the multinationals can easily and reliably predict greater profits. Hence one sees rising stock market prices.

Andrée, où habites-tu en France? Il semble très beau et si paisible!

Why the Leak Probe Matters
For all the complexities of the Valerie Plame case, this story is about how easy it was to get into Iraq, and how hard it will be to get out.

By Jonathan Alter
Newsweek

Because for all of the complexities of the Valerie Plame case, for all the questions raised about the future of investigative journalism and the fate of the most influential aide to an American president since Louis Howe served Franklin D. Roosevelt 70 years ago, this story is fundamentally about how easy it was to get into Iraq and how hard it will be to get out.

snip~
The bigger question is what this scandal does to the CIA's ability to develop essential "humint" (human intelligence). Here's where the Iraq war comes in again. The sooner we beef up our intelligence, the sooner we crack the insurgency and get to bring our troops home. What does it say to the people doing the painstaking work of building those spy networks when the identity of one of their own becomes just another weapon in the partisan wars of Washington? For a smart guy, Karl Rove was awfully stupid.

continue~
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8598301/site/newsweek/

r Wilson's comment about not being covert-
that is being taken totally out of context. I read somewheere (maybe talking points?) that Wilson said- once she was exposed she wasn't undercover- because of the exposure-not because her job chagened

On Call
That makes perfect sense. Financial Times & Economist are sometimes good because business readers are looking at the dollars, not the spin.
It's unfortunate that some are getting rich off wars & terrorist attacks. That kind of explains alot right there.

read entire column: priceless

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How dumb do they think we are?

Mark Shields Monday, July 18, 2005
WASHINGTON -- In my line of work, you get lied to a lot.

Are you ready for a barefaced lie? Listen to the Republican talking points. It is true that Rove did talk to Matt Cooper. But he was not trying to smear Wilson and thus silence a formidable critic of Bush's Iraq policy.

No, Rove's only motive was to make sure that Cooper and Time did not publish something that could turn out to be false. This is a side of the man we have not seen before -- selflessly saving gullible newsmen from publishing anything inaccurate.

Imagine how busy Rove must have been during Bush's 1994 race for Texas governor, when his campaign was accused of launching a whispering campaign in East Texas about Democratic Gov. Ann Richards' affinity for gays. Try as he must have, Karl just couldn't stop the circulation of those ugly rumors.

In 2000,George W. Bush's campaign was accused of spreading the vicious charge that Bush's main rival, Sen. John McCain, was unstable because of the time he had spent as a POW in isolation.

You just know Karl must have been speed-dialing reporters, valiantly trying to kill that slander. In 2004, the man who bankrolled the Swift Boat Veterans against John Kerry was one of Rove's oldest Texas allies.

Wayne Slater of The Dallas Morning News, who has covered Rove long and well, puts it this way: "Throughout his political career, bad things happen -- sometimes involving dirty tricks -- to his enemies or rivals." Is that because he's evil? "He's amoral. He doesn't set up a plan to damage, defeat or destroy his enemies because he's evil. He does it because he's so unbelievably competitive and amoral."

All of this raises one nagging question: Just how dumb do the Bush people believe we are, that we would swallow, for even a nanosecond, the fabrication that Karl Rove's only motive in calling reporters was to discourage inaccurate stories? Do they really think we are that stupid?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/18/how.dumb/

Veritas,

Tu demandes à DiAnne. Elle a reçu les dernière photos ce matin. (Tu as un e-mail direct?)
Moi, je suis à Paris, mais ma famille est en Bretagne, au bout, du bout du monde. Nous avons notre culture, notre langue, nos traditions.

For those who dont speak French :
I'm in Paris, but I come from Brittany, the end, of the world's end. We have our own culture, our language, our traditions. To you we are Celtic.

But we are all democrats, wherever we come from!

Nous sommes tous les démocrates.

Marche Karl Rove de grenouille hors de la maison blanche dans des menottes.

(??Frog march Karl Rove out of the White House in handcuffs)

I'm off to the gym. I have designed a t-shirt that says "Frog March" and has a little fat frog in handcuffs & I'm going to wear it & see if anyone "gets" it. I never mind using myself as a prop for counter-propaganda.

By the way, Ben Doko sent me the funniest picture today! It has me in the foreground, looking a little at the camera but a little fuzzy, & then in the background is John Kerry, with red-eyes & alot of hand gestures.

DiAnne,

Non, non, non
It's : "Faites sortir Karl Rove de la Maison Blanche, menotté, avec sa démarche de grenouille"

Frog is grenouille.

I don't think I will ever enter the States after this one!!!!

Ah...Paris...J'ai visite à Paris ce mai dernier, pour juste deux jours - c'était le premier fois que je venais là-bas - j'aimais le Paris! Les gens était très charmants et la cité était passionante...et la cuisine...incroyable. Je veux retourner!

Veritas
I can read it but as you see, I can't write it with correct syntax. I'm like Babel Fish auto translator. But it's the spirit!

J'aimais le Paris aussi, et les gens.

Veritas, veritatis

Mon dictionnaire de latin est dans la cuisine, sous les recettes de...confitures.
Tu es venu à Paris? Et tu n'es même pas passé à la maison? Shocking; J'aurais adoré te recevoir.

Tant pis, à la prochaine fois. Tu dois encore apprendre la différence entre le masculin et le féminin.
Tu peux me joindre en direct en tapant sur mon nom.

Gwen Ifill allowed Mehlman to spin, spin, spin.

Gwen Ifill, is responsible, in my personal opinion only, of course, for George W. Bush's second term. She was the one who made absolutely sure, on the night she hosted the debate with Kerry, that she brought front and center the abortion issue. I think she knew then how devisive the issue is, just like Karl Rove did. In my eyes, she is a right wing hack.

Posted by: Andrée - France at July 18, 2005 09:33 PM

Andree, my dear. I would not wish the cows here on you, but....maybe someday we will meet. There is no reason I may not visit Paris again. One day, who knows?

Hello........

I have messed up my computer beyond all recognition. I was trying to adjust something, and I succeeded in checking something that gave me "high contrast", white on black background, and reduced my screen to a two by eight inch slot.
I may try to get Suz on the phone tomorrow, if she is available on her cell. I need help, BAD!
LOL! Will probably only take one computer savy person three minutes to reset, but I can't read a thing right now.

Goodnight, friends. LOL. Help!

Truth,

DiAnne is coming in September, for 2 weeks.
And we'll have fun talking about you.
I found a little hotel, worth nothing, by my place.
In fact, she will be in a little mansion, inside a garden, behind the hotel... Unless you live in the area, you cannot know about it.

I think I should go to bed. (Here it's 5 am)

Andree, Truth, All

That's making me fantasize about Paris!

I wore my "Frog March" shirt to the gym & no one noticed. Off-topic - I decided to get the new Foo Fighters CD, as Dave Grohl worked so hard for John Kerry last year, & it supports local music.

For all who are awake in any time zone, be it Pacific (me), Central (Truth), Eastern (a few diehards?), or GMT (Andree) - head on up to the next thread. Trusty bloggers - Andree up all night, Truth on a miniscule screen!!

Fe has a surprise for us.

Andree',

The accomodations for DiAnne sound marvelous. Nothing better than to get inside the culture when you visit, to taste what it is all about. She will love it!

You are probably in bed by now, you are a good mom to do the birthday celebration!