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Putting Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is...


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There is new Camp Casey (III) across from the White House now. The crosses have been placed; the buses are in repose, the Vets for Peace and the Military Families have settled in for what they know is a standoff--for the very soul of America.

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But I want to share a story that will do all our sore hearts good. It is the story of Adam Eidinger, who is overseeing the Operation Ceasefire concert.

First of all, read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33527-2005Jan24.html

"The District government agreed yesterday to pay a total of $425,000 to seven people caught up in a mass arrest at a downtown park in September 2002, acknowledging that they were wrongfully arrested and promising to adopt changes in police procedures...

Under the terms of the agreement, a high-ranking police commander must issue a warning to disperse before police can begin arresting protesters. Officers must be able to prove that individual protesters broke the law and cannot arrest people simply for protesting without a permit. All officers must have clearly displayed badge numbers. Police must also provide phones so that detainees can call attorneys, friends or family members.

Eidinger said he would use some of his cash award to promote the antiwar and anti-globalization message..."

Adam has been coming to the mobilization and organizing meetings for months and has been excited and positive about the concert especially. Until today, when I spoke with him, I never knew that he was donating his share of the money he won to the Operation Ceasefire concert.

$48,000. From his hands, to this effort. Because he really, really , really believes in justice, freedom, and democracy.

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AND PEACE.

out.


37 Comments

Fe said:

Karen:

Wish I was there helping out, but work calls and I have no paid leave on the books.

I am watching and sending out your amazing coverage into the blogosphere. Keep the reports coming. Can't wait to hear from you.

We absolutely have to stay focused on surrounding the Mall and making a statement. The Powers that Be need to know WE are the majority.

This is so nice to hear. I lost so much faith in the institutions and the government of this country. The people who march are going to restore faith, it seems. Time for the PEOPLE to be back in charge.

I look forward to seeing Camp Casey III and the DCP table on Sunday - and helping out with the blogging as much as I can.

Ira said:

Interesting Indy that you bring up private motuaries. I posted last week about a private motuary company called SCI that was involved in a big scandel in Georgia dumping bodies in the woods and then getting a $100 million fine. They were the first of many Pioneers Indy at the public trough, awarded a contract in N.O. to start retrieving bodies, by Bush and Cheney's corrupt cronies. Haven't seen any posts here, though I have been a bit preocuupied with a hurricane and may have missed them, regarding Bill Frist and his inside trading of HCA stock. Why not? Our theme for the 2006 election should be to end the Republican Corruption and Croniism and clean up D.C.

If Chuck is out there could you please answer this simple question regarding another FEMA/Perry screwup.
Texas and Houston are the virtual energy capitals of the world. We have enormous refineries in Baytown, Pasadena and Texas City which aside from Bakersville Ca. are the largest locations of refined gasoline in this country if not the world. Why the hell can't Rick Perry and FEMA manage to get gasoline to the hundreds if not thousands of desperate motorists stranded on our highways and in harms way. Its another national disgrace and it has nothing to do with economic class. I filled up my tank, headed to Dallas and we decided to stop 50 miles outside of Houston b/c there was no frigin gasoline stations open anywere's w/i 100 miles of Houston if we should runout in our literally parking lot traffic. No refined gasoline available, None from America's energy capital literally a few miles down the road; what irony. What the hell would we do if there was another type of disaster, manmade instead of natural. Why the hell hasn't FEMA, Rick Perry and Chertoff had the brains to figure out that would happen? Its just like not knowing there would be folks stranded in the N.O. Convention Center. Fortunately someone in our local media has spoken up and now 15 hrs before a hurricane trying to fix it. Once again the FEMA morons weren't ready for that problem, they were clueless.

What would these bozos have done during the millenium if instead of Al Gore being in charge of our millenium and computer planning it would have been Bush, Chertoff and Michael Brown in charge of planning the Y2K 1999 pending crisis instead of Al Gore . He got zero recognition for his brilliant planning of Y2K.

And why is it that I leave here for a brief amount of time and see others back to bashing JK and JE, who I plan to nonblindly work to get the '08 nomination? Again didn't we collectively decide to stop that crap months ago?

"What is more significant is the fact that a republican actually found a liberal blog who would listen rather than scream above the din."

By the way I consider myself to be the resident moderate/progressive who will not back down or shy away from others being called liberals but we come here in all stripes, not just as self described liberals.

Indy said:

Camp Casey IV

Camp Casey III is in Covington, Louisiana.

Indy said:

Posted by: Ira at September 23, 2005 05:07 PM

Entergy files for bankruptcy

02:43 PM CDT on Friday, September 23, 2005
Associated Press

BATON ROUGE, La. -- Facing huge rebuilding costs and a loss of revenue following Hurricane Katrina, the New Orleans-based subsidiary of Entergy Corp. has filed for bankruptcy protection.

Entergy New Orleans Inc., announced the move Friday. It also said it plans to borrow up to $200 million from its parent corporation, pending court approval, to pay wages and benefits, make payments under existing power purchase and gas supply agreements and continue repairing and restoration of facilities wrecked by Katrina.

"We took this action after careful review of the various options available to preserve Entergy New Orleans' business over the near- and long-term" Dan Packer, Entergy New Orleans' chairman and chief executive officer, said in a news release. "Due to our parent company's financial support, we can focus on the city's reconstruction and rebirth, as those restoration efforts continue today."

A hearing was set for Monday on the bankruptcy petition, the company said.

(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Indy said:

Sept. 12, 2005, 7:32PM

RECOVERY
Daunting task: Houston company collecting remains
By MICHAEL HEDGES
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

NEW ORLEANS - As the collection of Hurricane Katrina's dead began in earnest over the weekend, a Houston company that has mastered the craft of dealing with the carnage of disasters was at the center of the effort.

Kenyon International Emergency Services is the sole private company on retainer with the U.S. government to respond to disasters and help manage events causing a catastrophic loss of life.

"When we work on one of these incidents, we work on every part from the beginning to the end. Over the past 76 years we have developed that niche, that presence," Kenyon President and Chief Executive Officer Robert Jensen told the Houston Chronicle in his first interview since the hurricane struck the area.

Kenyon already has about 100 people working on the storm's aftermath, and "that number is growing daily," Jensen said. It has provided a portable morgue and has begun its primary job of collecting remains. It has the ability to help identify victims as well, but so far has not been given that job.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3349427

Indy said:

$4.3 million to collect the bodies and they cannot talk to the media or anyone...

Sounds like a cover up to me.

NonnyO said:

I thought 911 was the worst feeling ever. I was so wrong.

Posted by: Christy at September 23, 2005 02:40 PM

A couple of weeks ago I was reading an op-ed piece (sorry, can't remember name or author now) where the writer said 9/11 was the Pearl Harbor for the Baby Boomer generation. I couldn't possibly disagree more. People have been labeling those who are NOT Baby Boomers as part of my generation, even though they are, at best, 10 or more years younger than Baby Boomers, and are really part of one or two later generations who have not been labeled because they rode the coat-tails of the Baby Boomers who ushered in new forms of music and art and culture and feminism and an anti-war movement during Nam (and some members of my generation died in Nam).

As a person who was born nine months after VE day (thus, a bona fide Baby Boomer!), the death of one man, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, had the same kind of nighmarish feeling as what you are describing after Katrina. 22 Nov. 1963 is indelibly printed on my gray matter, and the week following his assassination was a blur of wide-eyed staring numbness watching re-run after re-run of his death, the funeral, and the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby on live TV.... I dive into a black hole of depression every time I remember Kennedy's assassination and the week following it. I was a senior in high school that day, an emerging adult, and it has colored my adulthood in ways that affect me still, even as I approach 'senior citizen' status.

IMHO, media tried to do the same to the American public following 9/11 (I am wondering if they subscribe to PNAC's objectives). While the whole thing on 9/11 is tragic, it was still the act of a few (mostly Saudi Arabian) terrorists and while the lives lost that day will affect the families and friends of the victims of those terrorists for the rest of their lives, it's not the defining moment for this nation at the beginning of the 21st century, except for how media elevated the flagging image of this country's Selected "leader" and how our Congressional members betrayed the people who elected them by giving that one egomanaical twit dictatorial powers, and our Congressional members gave up their war powers and put war powers(!) in the hands of one selfish little psychopathic bully who promptly ordered the invasion of another country based on lies for no good reason whatsoever, and his family and his cronies are reaping the monetary rewards.... (News flash for Nitwit's speech writers: "Normal" mourning lasts for one year. Anything longer than a year falls into the category of morbid grief and those people should seek counseling. Four years later, we remember the tragedy, but have moved on with our lives, although not as fast as you who told this nation less than a week after the tragedy to move on with our lives, travel, vacation, etc.... Stop referring to 9/11 in speeches, because those of us with long memories remember that Nitwit did not mourn; he took advantage of this nation when it was in deep mourning to manipulate public approval for his stupid selfish war in Iraq.)

Hurricane Katrina, while not replayed on TV screens endlessly 24/7 for a week afterward (like 9/11), has (for me) brought back that surreal nightmarish feeling following President Kennedy's assassination. Now Hurricane Rita threatens to do just as much damage, and the patched levees in NOLA have already broken and will plunge NO right back to where it was the day after Katrina hit with massive flooding, and likely more deaths. Errors compounded misjudgements on all levels (especially federal, because it seems local authorities who were asking for help were not being listened to or they were being ignored), and I can't even imagine how much more devastating it is for the Katrina survivors who are directly affected one way or another. Like waters on a pond when a rock is thrown in, however, hurricanes hitting the Mississippi Delta, especially the port cities as vital as New Orleans, affects the economies of the majority of states who send or receive their grain and other goods and supplies up and down the Mississippi River will be affected for a great long while to come. (I read a minimum of 33 states will be directly affected because the port of NO was pretty well destroyed and closed.) I suspect it will take at least a generation to recover (on multiple levels) from the devastating effects of first Hurricane Katrina and then Hurricane Rita. And, if we do not heed the effects of global warming and polluting our environment, it will happen again and in the same region! (And hurricane season isn't even over yet this year!)

Adding insult to injury is the fact that a private mortuary company is picking up the bodies and we do not have an accurate death toll number, nor do we know what they are doing with the bodies. (I've now seen two stories about the private mortuary companies, and am wondering how many there are, and if more than one company is involved in retrieving the dead.) We only know from one blurb on MSM and one AP story that the body count is over 1000. MSM focuses on the physical damage to homes and businesses, occasionally feature a happy reunion, etc., but they are not broadcasting the nasty details about the body count. It's like denying they ever existed, and it's an insult to their memory... not unlike the administration refusing to allow photos of the caskets of the Iraqi war dead.... Out of sight, out of mind. No mention of the dead means no mourning the dead from Hurricane Katrina, and too soon we face more potential deaths from Hurricane Rita. But mourning isn't part of anything to do with the Bush administration who never acknowledges the death of people who died in 9/11 (he only uses mentions of 9/11 to further his 'terraist' political agendas and to indirectly scare paranoid and neurotic sheeples into supporting him), or the deaths of tens of thousands (over 1900 Americans, plus innocent Iraqis) for the sake of his stupid little war in Iraq for control of oil, or those who died in NOLA because of his administration's bungling, thanks to the redundant office of "homeland" security he put in place which has only added pork spending to an already bankrupt nation. But mourning's not Bu$h's thing....

Please know, Christy, that people are empathizing with you and the others who are so badly affected by the hurricanes. I can only imagine what you all are going through, but even my active imagination only goes so far before it stops and I dissolve in tears. The reality must be a billion times worse, and my heart goes out to you all.... Except for when my parents and a few other loved ones died, I haven't felt this bad since the week after 22 Nov 1963....

NonnyO said:

24 Elderly Killed in Bus Fire as Texas Flees
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/092305I.shtml
The flight from the danger posed by Hurricane Rita turned deadly early Friday as a bus filled with elderly evacuees from the Houston area burst into flames on traffic-packed Interstate 45, leaving as many as 24 people dead, according to local officials.

HCA Subpoenaed: Frist Dumped Stock That Plummeted
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/092305J.shtml
When Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist asked a trustee to sell all his stock in his family's hospital corporation, a large-scale sell-off by HCA Inc. insiders was under way. Now HCA Inc. has been subpoenaed by federal prosecutors.

Ira said:

Didn't Martha Stewart go to prison for 6 months for what Frist is alleged to have done?


Frist/DeLay/Rove maybe they could all share a prison cell.

aimzzz said:

Todays Diane Rehm News Roundup has a good discussion of what Bush is trying to do with hi s home state hurricane. You can hear the BushCo spin from the Fox news guy -- his line: 'well, you can see how hard it is to deal with these things, even with advanced preparation' [paraphrased]. Personally I'd say they had a chance to see the evacuation problems a few years ago when Jeb Bush tried to evacuate part of Florida & had major gridlock. It's not an easy problem, but BushCo has seen it before & has not done anything to improve things.

I the middle of the program, there is a discussion of the public mood re the war. Discussion of the anti-war reaction in the absence of a draft.

RealPlayer audio link:
http://www.wamu.org/audio/dr/05/09/r1050923-8554.ram

aimzzz said:

"Frist/DeLay/Rove maybe they could all share a prison cell."

LOL - a beautiful vision. Think of the impact on the future of America

Christy said:

Posted by: NonnyO at September 23, 2005 06:13 PM

You know what i REALLY fear..?

I am scared it is too late.

I am so afraid that this country was walking the brink already, then Katrina hit and I just feel like it was a crushing blow to what was already almost hopelessly fractured. I know after seeing my statesmen left behind i can no longer feel anything about this country without a deep malice in my heart. It is quite involuntary.

I love this nation, but she is a sick twisted bitch who needs to have the arrogance beaten from her.

I am very afraid that we will only survive by LETTING her die, and then to rebirth her anew.

I was born the same year Vietnam ended. My mother made sure I was extremely well versed in world history, all of it i think. Sometimes I wonder has my youth blinded me, I remind myself constantly that history takes time. I try to stitch it together in a logical sense that can and does often reveal the future.

But as much as I have studied, as much as I have pondered, as much time as I spent studying the hierarchy of lands I will never see, lands that no longer exist, I honestly have never in my entire life even read ANYTHING that comes close to what is happening now.

I think in the end that is what scares me the most. Whatever is coming will NOT be like anything we have never known before. It will be so alien and ugly we will kill each other to get away from it.

I do not fear God. I have faced men with guns and I have the scars to prove I am bullet proof. I was often kicked around like a hungry dog as a child and I have personally had 5 csections to give birth to 5 healthy babies. I do not fear rumors or mistakes. I know what death smells like.

But whatever is coming,... Whatever is about to happen to this nation, I dont want no part of it.

The only thing I care about is how to get my children away as fast as possible.

Bush has gone mad. and as long as he has any power left at all, we are ALL damned.

abqjohn said:

Christy - I LOVE your passion !

And, I agree with your comment that as long as Blinky has any power at all, America is not safe. We must be the guardians of our Country and not let shrubby and the neocons take it away from us patriots. The gathering in Washington this weekend will let the whole Country know of the ineptness of this administration.

Nothing short of resignation of this pResident would be just.

Christy said:

Nothing short of resignation of this pResident would be just.

Posted by: abqjohn at September 23, 2005 08:28 PM


Amen

THEN THE ARREST.

abqjohn said:

good point, C

Indy said:

For those not in Washington and not worried about the hurricane, please enjoy the ongoing Love and Music from Austin, Texas.

Austin City Limits Music Festival.

http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/sbc/mainstage/mainstage.html

Watch Live all weekend.

I am not attending...and almost jumped a plane to DC but thought better of it seeing as I want to fire them all.

But I wanted to share with all who love the truth and beauty of music, and the hope and promise of a new and better America.

Peace, Love and Compassion.

Indy =]

PS the funny thing is from my house I can hear what is on the broadcast...Blues Traveller on now...I am that close to the festival.

madame defarge said:

Coinciding with DC's rally tomorrow is a rally in London. Very cool.

Thousands expected at anti-war demo

Tens of thousands of people are expected to join another anti-war demonstration in London, sending a message to the Government on the eve of the Labour Party conference that British troops should be pulled out of Iraq.

Families of soldiers killed in Iraq will join the protest, which will include a march and a rally at Hyde Park.

The number of protesters will be boosted by the violent events in Iraq over the past few days, organisers of the event predicted.

The Stop The War Coalition said the clashes involving British troops in Basra highlighted the urgent need to bring the "occupation" to an end.

--snip--
"Enough is enough. It is now time, once again, for the British people to step forward into the streets and insist that this time we will not be ignored."

Veteran peace activist, Tony Benn, said that most people in the UK were now against Britain's involvement in Iraq and believed that the war was illegal.

"This is no longer a minority view and the purpose of the march is to encourage other people to give us support," he said.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1987032005

NonnyO said:

Bush has gone mad. and as long as he has any power left at all, we are ALL damned.

Posted by: Christy at September 23, 2005 08:17 PM

Yes, and if those nitwits in the Senate approve Roberts' nomintion, I fear things will only get worse. He wrote a favorable opinion four days before his first nomination that gave extra powers to the executive branch... y'all see where that's going if the pResNitwit gets carte blanche to appoint such judges? Yep. Martial Law, Dictatorial Power, Legalized Torture, Cancelled Elections.... ETC. Pick one or all or add your own. It's a greased and slippery slope, but since before the Selection of 2000 I've forseen portended scenarios based on pResNitwit's past behavior, and he seems to favor the greased slopes, and thus rushes through his bad legislation and tax breaks for the rich and the corporations. Our senators need to think long and hard on that one before they vote. The blood of many people may be on their hands. That's the reason I oppose the Roberts nomination, even above the suspicion he will try his darndest to overturn Roe v. Wade and put women back in submissive roles. He will favor giving non-Constitutional powers to the executive branch and the checks and balances the Founding Fathers mandated will cease to exist and this country will become an openly fascist nation....

Nitwit has ALWAYS been a psychopath. He was born that way and will remain so until his last breath. Nothing will suit him except for supreme power, the more the better over the most number of people, and he doesn't give a rip who stands in his way..... He was corrupt before he had any power, and now he's drunk on power....

Christy said:

If I could speak to God, if He only gave me one minute to say my share..

I would use every second of that minute begging Him to forgive my nation.

When I force myself to look up the pictures from Iraq, I see so many children that look just like my children. I see damage to them my tax dollar paid for. In my mind I hear thier mothers screaming.

No maybe I would only beg for mercy for 55 seconds.

With the other 5 I would clearly state what was done to the children of Iraq was not done to protect me nor was it ever in my name. I will NEED to tell Him I never believed it was in HIS name either. Nor did I ever let anyone get away with saying so.

And then if I wind up in hell, im going to look up the bush family and personaly introduce myself to each one of thier vile souls.

If nothing else Ill look forward to it.

madame defarge said:

I don't know who this Robert Parry guy is; I've never seen his site before. But he sure makes a helluva lot of sense with some sound advice. I hope some strong political leaders out there are paying attention.

What to Do About the Bush Problem
By Robert Parry

Disaster experts will tell you that a key to surviving a catastrophe is to quickly discard the old paradigm of normalcy and to act with urgency and creativity in facing the new reality. There is no time for fretting or wishful thinking; decisiveness and imagination are crucial.

The same holds true for nations. History has taught us that sometimes when a leader has made catastrophic choices, others – from within the ruling elite or from without – must do something to shatter the old paradigm of normalcy and protect the nation.

The United States may have found itself in such a predicament. Figuratively at least, the flood waters are surging through the first floor and – while some say the water won’t rise much more – others think it’s time to grab the kids and seek higher ground.

The stark question now before the country is: Should it sit still for the next three-plus years of George W. Bush’s presidency or demand accountability, including possibly the removal of him and his political team from office?

Though it’s true that impeachment of both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney would be an extreme step, this constitutional option must be judged against the alternative of a continued national leadership that is facing worsening crises while known for a trademark refusal to admit mistakes or to make meaningful adjustments to its policies.

--snip--
So, the hard choice is whether the country would be better off starting this political battle now with an eye toward a change in control of Congress in 2006 or simply waiting for the next presidential election in 2008.

--snip--
But the more immediate question for Americans now is what to do next. Should the nation drift for three-plus years while Bush and his allies continue their strategy of consolidating political power (in large part by installing likeminded individuals in the federal judiciary)? Or should the country begin, as best it can, demanding accountability?

For the second option to be viable, however, a number of changes would be necessary.

1. Bush’s critics must finally take seriously the need to build a media infrastructure that can explain to a broad cross-section of the American people why they should strip the Republicans of control of Congress in 2006. While progressive talk radio and liberal Internet bloggers have advanced this process, more resources would be needed if the nation’s current media imbalance, heavily tilted to the Right, is to be corrected.

2. The Democrats must lay out a national vision for Election 2006 that is based on the principle of public accountability, not just a potpourri of issues aimed at finessing their way to incremental gains. The Democrats would need to make clear that they want a decisive congressional majority so they can investigate the Bush administration – and act on whatever wrongdoing is discovered.

3. The part of the American electorate that is outraged by Bush’s actions over the past five years must get engaged in the political process and show both consistency and toughness. If the nation’s future is indeed at stake, then the intensity of the political participation must match the importance of the goals.

--snip--
In the past few months, some of the consequences of Election 2000 have become painfully apparent. One after another, catastrophes have swept across America’s political landscape. The question now before the nation is whether it will shed the old paradigm of normalcy and act with urgency and creativity.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/092305.html

Christy said:

and now he's drunk on power....

Posted by: NonnyO at September 23, 2005 08:56 PM


I am not so sure georgie was born evil.

Knowing his life experiences, I would say his parents totally completely f**ked him up. Twisted and wierd and clickish and scandle ridden. The man is a virtual textbook on what NOT to do to your kids even if you can afford it.

As far as the being evil goes, I think he learned it from his mother,,,

There is NO WAY IN HELL i would leave my little kids in a room alone with GHW bush either. No way. I mean he married Barbara...

Bush has gone mad. and as long as he has any power left at all, we are ALL damned.

Posted by: Christy at September 23, 2005 08:17 P

Agreed with that sentiment, Christy... I was even wondering if it's even worth fighting, or it'd be better to just bail out.

I decided to give the wonderful people of America one last chance. That'll be this weekend.

Ira said:

sorry we didn't make it it to D.C. or my favorite beautiful city Austin and Austin City Limits, Indy.

signing off as winds kicking up and to prepare for the Global Warming floods. Thanks again W for making our Texas lives so much better.

defarge I promise to get your generous contributions distributed next week, thanks.

Christy said:

Where ARE you Ira...?

madame defarge said:

Posted by: Ira at September 23, 2005 09:12 PM

Stay safe, Ira. We need you.

madame defarge said:

Rick "Good Hair" Perry owes everything he knows to his predecessor...

Texas Gov. Rick Perry told reporters more than 2 million people in his state had evacuated, and he assured citizens that "we're going to get through this."

Veritas said:

We'll keep you safe Ira

Christy said:

Thats it bush is cooked

New Accounts of Torture by U.S. Troops
23 Sep 2005 22:05:31 GMT
Reuters
Source: Human Rights Watch

(New York, September 25, 2005) -- U.S. Army troops subjected Iraqi detainees to severe beatings and other torture at a base in central Iraq from 2003 through 2004, often under orders or with the approval of superior officers, according to accounts from soldiers released by Human Rights Watch today. The new report, "Leadership Failure: Firsthand Accounts of Torture of Iraqi Detainees by the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division," provides soldiers' accounts of abuses against detainees committed by troops of the 82nd Airborne stationed at Forward Operating Base Mercury (FOB Mercury), near Fallujah.

Three U.S. army personnel-two sergeants and a captain-describe routine, severe beatings of prisoners and other cruel and inhumane treatment. In one incident, a soldier is alleged to have broken a detainee's leg with a baseball bat. Detainees were also forced to hold five-gallon jugs of water with their arms outstretched and perform other acts until they passed out. Soldiers also applied chemical substances to detainees' skin and eyes, and subjected detainees to forced stress positions, sleep deprivation, and extremes of hot and cold. Detainees were also stacked into human pyramids and denied food and water. The soldiers also described abuses they witnessed or participated in at another base in Iraq and during earlier deployments in Afghanistan.

According to the soldiers' accounts, U.S. personnel abused detainees as part of the military interrogation process or merely to "relieve stress." In numerous cases, they said that abuse was specifically ordered by Military Intelligence personnel before interrogations, and that superior officers within and outside of Military Intelligence knew about the widespread abuse. The accounts show that abuses resulted from civilian and military failures of leadership and confusion about interrogation standards and the application of the Geneva Conventions. They contradict claims by the Bush administration that detainee abuses by U.S. forces abroad have been infrequent, exceptional and unrelated to policy.

Continues,...

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/bbc29fb371b02011e16942345387f497.htm

madame defarge said:

Posted by: Christy at September 23, 2005 09:25 PM

Oh Christy, I hope this gets picked up by MSM...& a just justice system.

Christy said:

Its clearly a Reuters piece.

It will be in thier faces, they need to cover bush in his own shame to get out of thier own culpability.

Its too late though as far as im concerned judy miller should be one of the first to swing for treason.

She KNEW she was writing false stories. She is NOT in jail to 'protect a source'... her silence protects HERSELF.

She KNOWS she committed TREASON. That protect a source bullshit is a total spin.

The Downing Memos clearly state the facts were being fixed around the policy, miller knows that better than anyone else cause she IS the fixer

Christy said:

100-Mile-Long Traffic Jams In Texas, Cars Stranded Without Gas... Officials Say “Being On The Highway Is A Deathtrap”...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Posted by: Karen at September 23, 2005 10:09 PM

Oh my! No wonder the rest of the world hates us now...

Hawkeye said:

During a major anti-war demonstration in 1967, political activist Abbie Hoffman organized an "Exorcism of the Pentagon," in which he led over 50,000 people to surround the Pentagon in an effort to levitate the building by their combined psychic energy.

Hmm, 100,000 anti-war protesters in DC this weekend ... might be a fun thing to try on the White House.

Karen said:

Hawkeye:

Dick was there, and has wonderful stories about that day. Tomorrow will be a little less gleeful, I am afraid.

We just don't have a sense of play about all this horror anymore. I wish the stakes were not quite so high--a little levity (and levitating) would be welcome.

Every chuckle is healing, but there are not nearly enough of them.

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