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Amy posts on the previous thread:

I show up for almost everything, but I've been very disappointed in a lot of the progressives that I know in my area. They blog, they know about things, but they don't show up.

Posted by: Amy at October 31, 2005 07:59 PM

I had been thinking about the same issue tonight, as I stood in front of the White House, listening to the World Can't Wait people talking about torture, Alito, and the Bush administration. This is the beginning of the third week; I have not been there every day, but most days. Travis, Lee, Tracie, Marylou, Don and others have withstood icy rain, hecklers, Park police and tourists's questions day after day.

Tonight a woman came along and watched for a while. She asked, "But aren't you afraid to protest in front of the White House?"

"A little fear is fine," said one of tonight's speakers. "But overall, there is a lot more dissent these days, and it is important to organize so that you are not alone."

Lee shared a story from earlier today that showed how frightening this whole process can be. They took the sign that said "2 Days Until the Beginning of the End of the Bush Regime" and went over to the Supreme Court because they figured the media would be there.

Not many in the media were left, but there was a group of radical right-wingers there. They had a group of children with them. The young children were on their knees, praying. Across their mouths was red tape. On the tape was written the word "life".


(space for you to think about THAT image for a while.)

What Lee came away with from that: If they can get Alito through, nothing will stop them. They are off to the races...

We each know a lot. Jose Padilla, James Yee, GITMO, Abu Ghraib, Downing Street minutes, what happened in Ohio, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, the list goes on...

What do we do about it?

Justice William O. Douglas: “As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilights that we all must be most aware of change in the air -- however slight -- lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.”

We are aware of the darkness settling. What makes it so difficult for us to leave the comfort of our despair to go to the streets and stand with others in speaking truth?

Do we need more evidence?

Johannes Williams, an attorney in D.C., spoke about a vigil for peace at the U.S Capitol in which a woman cried unconsolably for over an hour. Her husband was in Iraq and had told her what they did to the prisoners. She couldn't believe it. "How can we be a beacon of freedom for the world?"

Another story: Do you know that the U.S soldiers hold their hands up, palms forward, as a gesture to people to stop? And that it often looks to those people as if they are waving hello? And that if people fail to stop, they can be shot? And they ARE?

Outrage after outrage -- and still the streets are not full of that outrage.

We know that silence and paralysis do not work. What will it take to get you out there on Wednesday?

The World Can't Wait website -->> What You Can Do Now

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DiAnne said:

HALLOWEEN RANT TO PROCRASTINATE FROM GOING TO THE GYM

Last Halloween we had a lifesize cutout of John Kerry & all the trick or treaters got very excited & wanted to be photographed with it.

Tonight's a sad night as I firmly believe the last two elections were stolen.

As for being visible in the street (politically), the way it usually works here in Seattle is that other groups to the left of Democrats will do it first (Freedom Socialist Party, Radical Women, The Green Party etc.) and then as the issue is bigger, so-called "progressives" show up ("Democratic wing of the Democratic party" aka Dean supporters last time around), then the liberals (like me, liberal lawyers, students, readers), union people & some rank & file.

There are actually peace vigils that have gone on unbroken for almost 4 years now. The diehards are mostly older people and amazing - out there every week in rain, in snow. Alot of those people vote Democrat but their values are to the left of the rank & file of the Democratic party. They are the canaries in the coalmine though. They are the tip of the iceberg.

There are people who probably get hooked on sitting behind the computer and don't get as involved "out there" but there are also people (here) who have been canvassing all weekend & I should have had my fat ass out there with them & what did I do - sit at the computer. So maybe the theory is correct. Seriously, I had to get my cat neutered & I'm procrastinating til next week when it's one week closer to the election.

We do have the "WalkOut" in 2 days - am curious how big that will be. It's impossible to gauge but am impressed with the planning. The young people seem to have ben "on it" for weeks. I first heard about it from young people at Hempfest. They were already organizing 3 months ago. They were also to the left of most Democrats. It should come as no surprise that the party is as moderate as it is. This is America. Howard Dean didn't make it past Iowa. McGovern won one state as an antiwar candidate.

Alot of people, including me, rag on the Senators who voted for IWR, but at the time - their constitutents largely backed going into Iraq and "bought" a link between 9/11 and Iraq, even if mostly subconsciously through their fear.

All I can say is we have to keep it up, at whatever level. I know I have some kind of donation and participation fatigue as I haven't been sending in as much money. I sent some to William Rivers Pitt because those TruthOut things I do read, & sent some to NPR & also Community Radio because since I don't watch tv I DO use those. I felt really guilty being a freeloader.

Thanks for all the work you guys are doing in DC!! Another thing about the internet - everything is multiplicative. Send out a group email and if everyone who gets it is inspired and does the same, it's viral.

I hope street action isn't mostly symbolic - media never seems to cover it unless there is violence & if they do they underestimate it. Looking at the news I can feel a huge pressure to cover up and play down the bad news lately, to distract. This is coming from the White House, it's so obvious.

Another thing that people do that I think has impact (my son argues that it doesn't but maybe it at least helps moral) is house signage and bumper stickers. I swear to God that if Seattle wasn't plastered with "War is Terrorism" signs I would have moved to Canada right after 9/11.

Where is everybody? Out trick or treating?
My Republican uncle sent me these two just now:

Hard Times for New Age Stores: (pre-empted by Walmart)

http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-newage31.html

Halloween: Banned at the Schoolhouse Door (Some Christians & Muslims keep their children home, but see the quote about how if Americans can't have a holiday where we can be creatively wierd .. we are lost)

http://abcnews.go.com/International/CSM/story?id=1264822

Another thing that people do that I think has impact (my son argues that it doesn't but maybe it at least helps moral) is house signage and bumper stickers. I swear to God that if Seattle wasn't plastered with "War is Terrorism" signs I would have moved to Canada right after 9/11.

Posted by: DiAnne at October 31, 2005 10:48 PM

Hi DiAnne,

Even the presence of one progressive yard sign/bumper sticker is a sign of hope, especially for someone like me, living in a conservative hellhole called Red California.

I see too many "Yes on 74, 75, 76, 77" signs around my neighborhood already. The four numbers refer to the Ahnuld propositions to be voted on next week.

The opponents have NO offices and NO activities in my area (only 30 miles out of Los Angeles) and that's a shame. Looks like I'll need to take a long drive and fatten the oil companies' coffers a bit more in order to have a NO sign on my yard.

Andrée - France said:

"Can Bush be Impeached"

This is the article I found on my news today.
(Phony English automatic translation, but readable)


" A possible procedure of impeachment "

NOUVELOBS.COM ∫ 31.10.05 ∫ 17:01

By Eric Laurent,
Specialist of the international questions
and chiefs of state,
Author of " The War of Bush:
The unavowable Secrets of a conflict "
( Éd. Pocket, on 2003)

What are the laws, the regulations(payments), which govern the status of the agents of CIA, notably the confidentiality of their identity?
- The members of CIA have a duty of total confidentiality during their stay within the Agency and after their departure of this one. All the agents, even the director of CIA, who wish to show or to publish reports(memoirs) have to subject their text to a Committee of censorship within the Agency, notably for the questions of national safety(security). There were however some drift. An agent working within the framework of the antiterrorist fight(wrestling) took(brought) out a book, in which he revealed the dysfunctions within CIA and tensions between this one and the administration Bush; the book was authorized by the Committee. The director of CIA is named(appointed) by the president of the United States; since the reorganization of intelligence services operated by George W.Bush this director is also responsible for all the other agencies of piece of information. Besides CIA lost any independence, it is directly dependent on the administration Bush.
John Negroponte, before being called at the post of director of CIA had been an ambassador to the UNO, then in Bagdad. Previously reports(connections) between CIA and White House were more or less narrow.
Today it would seem that the disclosure of the membership of Valerie Plame in CIA puts of advantage problem that the charges carried( against the administration Bush to have invaded Iraq on behalf of(under the cover of) lies.
How do you explain it?
- Effectively. Your question puts the finger on a problem of bottom revealed by "Plamegate".
The carried attention on the disclosure of the activities within CIA of Valerie Plame is other one than the demonstration of the legal pointillism of the United States. Moreover a former(ancient) legal adviser of Nixon, in a book which he published there is more than year, declared that if the American judicial system continued to work, we should arrive at a procedure of impeachment of the president George W.Bush even if until today the judiciary seemed rather friendly towards the administration Bush.
As for the revelations made by Joseph Wilson and for the indictment of Libb, it is about an opened breach. For the first time for five and a half years all the speech of the administration Bush with its manipulations and its lies, to justify its "antiterrorist" politics(policy), does not like any more.
Today, both phenomena (the lies of the White House to intervene in Iraq and Plamegate) are concomitant and have so much importance.
The situation which lives Bush today can be compared and with that of Nixon before Watergate and with that of Johnson at the time of the war of Vietnam. Bush is in a position particularly weakened because of his lies and of the impasse(dead end) of the Iraqi, inequitable war.
Is the White House going to manage, for a long time, to make diversion on this affair which soils it, as Bush's rib(coast) is in recession(drop), as anti-war demonstrations continue and as the threshold 2.000 BE LYING deaths in Iraq is exceeded?
Otherwise which consequences on the administration Bush and on his foreign policy?
- It is necessary to qualify things.
As at the time of the war of Vietnam, the ascent in power of the opposition was long. Demonstrations(appearances) "anti-war" are still confined in Boston, democratic bastion of the rib(coast) is. We can speak about a real opposition when the "silent majority" will take part in it.
On the other hand, unmistakably, the situation in Iraq splits from day to day; the strategy which consisted in staging any power of the United States was only revealing the limits. 140 000 soldiers are on the Iraqi ground today; the United States would like to intervene on the other grounds, such as Syria or Iran, they could not him(it). In this, Bush is prisoner of his rhetoric: Iran appears as a dangerous equation: Teheran receives formal demands, but how to intervene? The United States have no means of an armed conflict, without counting that Iran is not Iraq.
Furthermore, from a diplomatic point of view, Bush is compromised in the immense majority of the Arabic opinions.
From an internal point of view, we could think that Bush diverts(hijacks) the attention by playing the card(map) of the "domestic" problems.
I do not think that he intends to make him(it), and if such was the case, if it could work. Moreover at the time of the transmission of power in 1992 between Bush father and Clinton, George Bush said to his successor " I know that for you the foreign policy is secondary, but you will be caught up by her ". The internal problems were always relegated in the background and try to use it as diversion would not work. It is too late.
The possibility of Bush's impeachment is a key which has just jumped. Lewis is one of the main brains and the strategists of the conservatives(curators). For the first time an American president is surrounded by men's(people) network which(who) know for 30 years, have the same visions, the same foreign policy all neo-conservatives whose brain and the strategist Libby is. The indictment and the resignation of this last one sign the failure(defeat) of this politics(policy). The great danger of this politics(policy) was that it had no forces of opposition.

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monkey said:

Rumsfeld's growing stake in Tamiflu
Defense Secretary, ex-chairman of flu treatment rights holder, sees portfolio value growing.

October 31, 2005

By Nelson D. Schwartz, Fortune senior writer

NEW YORK (Fortune) - The prospect of a bird flu outbreak may be panicking people around the globe, but it's proving to be very good news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's now the most-sought after drug in the world.

Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

Rumsfeld isn't the only political heavyweight benefiting from demand for Tamiflu, which is manufactured and marketed by Swiss pharma giant Roche. (Gilead receives a royalty from Roche equaling about 10% of sales.) Former Secretary of State George Shultz, who is on Gilead's board, has sold more than $7 million worth of Gilead since the beginning of 2005.

Another board member is the wife of former California Gov. Pete Wilson.

"I don't know of any biotech company that's so politically well-connected," says analyst Andrew McDonald of Think Equity Partners in San Francisco.

What's more, the federal government is emerging as one of the world's biggest customers for Tamiflu. In July, the Pentagon ordered $58 million worth of the treatment for U.S. troops around the world, and Congress is considering a multi-billion dollar purchase. Roche expects 2005 sales for Tamiflu to be about $1 billion, compared with $258 million in 2004.

Rumsfeld recused himself from any decisions involving Gilead when he left Gilead and became Secretary of Defense in early 2001. And late last month, notes a senior Pentagon official, Rumsfeld went even further and had the Pentagon's general counsel issue additional instructions outlining what he could and could not be involved in if there were an avian flu pandemic and the Pentagon had to respond.

As the flu issue heated up early this year, according to the Pentagon official, Rumsfeld considered unloading his entire Gilead stake and sought the advice of the Department of Justice, the SEC and the federal Office of Government Ethics.

Those agencies didn't offer an opinion so Rumsfeld consulted a private securities lawyer, who advised him that it was safer to hold on to the stock and be quite public about his recusal rather than sell and run the risk of being accused of trading on insider information, something Rumsfeld doesn't believe he possesses. So he's keeping his shares for the time being.

Karen said:

See today's Five Minutes a Day.

Write here.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

monkey said:

Irony & Misdirection, from the beak of the ChickenhaWk...

Bush to unveil bird flu strategy
Update to national response has been in works for a year

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. President George W. Bush will unveil a national strategy for bird flu on Tuesday, in a bid to reduce the chance that an outbreak among people could become widespread, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said.

The strategy -- to be unveiled at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland -- will include plans to identify an outbreak as soon as it appears, work to contain it and treat it "to the best extent possible," McClellan told reporters Monday.

The announcement by Bush comes as disaster coordinators from Pacific rim countries discuss ways to head off such a crisis.

One way to contain the virus would be to devise a cell-based vaccine against it and to stockpile antiviral medicines, two efforts that are currently under way, McClellan said.

By the end of the year, more than 4 million courses of antiviral treatment should be on hand, though that number is far lower than what the World Health Organization has urged.

In addition, scientists are redoubling their efforts to create the next generation of vaccine, one that would be cell-based rather than the current egg-based versions, McClellan said. Cell-based vaccines could be mass-produced quickly, which could prove to be a critical advantage in the event of a pandemic.

"It's something we need to take seriously," he said. "That's why the president has been leading the way."

-snip-

So far, the disease does not appear to infect people easily, with the WHO having tallied just 121 human cases. But, unlike other forms of influenza, it has a high mortality rate -- 62 of those cases proved fatal.

Health experts fear that it could mutate and acquire the ability to infect large numbers of people. Should that happen, without immediate and effective interventions to contain it, the global impact could be incalculable.

There have been three pandemics in the past century, and global health experts say the world is overdue for another.

-snip-

The Bush administration has sought about $70 million in next year's budget for mobile hospitals that could be set up in affected areas to handle large numbers of patients, McClellan said.

On April 1, Bush added influenza viruses with pandemic potential to the list of diseases against which a quarantine can be imposed.

More than 80 nations have joined an international partnership based at the United Nations to fight the disease, should it emerge as a human threat.

Bush discussed the issue Monday in his luncheon meeting at the White House with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, McClellan said.

Stockpiling drugs and vaccines is just one component of the U.S. plan, The Associated Press reports.

"Understand that a lot of the things we need to do to prepare are not related to magic bullets," said Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota, AP reported.

Osterholm is an infectious disease specialist who has advised the government on preparations for the next worldwide flu outbreak but has not seen the final version of the plan.

How to provide food supplies, everyday medical care for people who don't have the super-flu, basic utilities and even security must be part of the plan, Osterholm and others have counseled the Bush administration.

"In this day and age of a global economy, with just-in-time delivery and no surge capacity and international supply chains -- those things are very difficult to do for a week, let alone for 12 to 18 months of what will be a very tough time," he said.

The U.S. government already is buying $162.5 million worth of vaccine against the H5N1 bird flu strain from two companies -- Sanofi-Aventis and Chiron Corp. It also is ordering millions of doses of Tamiflu and Relenza, two antiflu drugs believed to offer some protection against the bird flu.

Lawmakers angry at months of delay have already given Bush money to begin those preparations: $8 billion in emergency funding that the Senate, pushed by Democrats, passed on Thursday.

The money is to be spent at the president's discretion, but senators said it should be used both for medications and vaccine and for beefing up hospitals and other systems to detect and contain a super-flu.

monkey said:

Bush panel to propose broad tax-law changes
Most deductions, alternative minimum tax would be eliminated under plan

Updated: 7:28 a.m. ET Nov. 1, 2005

WASHINGTON - Chosen to find a simpler way to tax the nation, a presidential panel is set to recommend two designs that would rewrite virtually every tax law for individuals and businesses.

Under the plan, most deductions, credits and other tax breaks would be eliminated along with much of the paperwork and equations that baffle taxpayers under a drastically simplified income tax.

But many have wondered whether the key recommendations may be too unpopular to ever be enacted by Congress.

The nine members of the presidential commission present their findings Tuesday to Treasury Secretary John Snow, who told the Detroit Economic Club on Monday the nation’s taxes need “not only theoretical reform, not only academic reform, but actual practical reform.”

The President’s Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform spent most of the year studying tax designs, including consumption taxes like a national retail sales tax. President Bush tasked the group with finding simpler and more economically productive ideas for taxation.

The commission wrapped up its work last month, and its ideas immediately attracted criticism — some from those wanted to see more change and some from those who felt the changes went too far.

Under both of the panel’s alternatives, three out of four taxpayers would fall into the lowest, 15 percent, tax bracket.

Under one plan, individuals would pay no tax on dividends paid by U.S. companies and exclude 75 percent of their capital gains from taxation. Under the second plan, all investment income would be taxed at 15 percent.

Both proposals would abolish the alternative minimum tax, a levy originally drafted to prevent wealthy individuals from escaping taxation but increasingly reaching into the middle class. They also would eliminate federal deductions and credits for mortgage interest, state and local taxes and education, among others.

The advisory commission would replace those withdrawn tax breaks with simpler benefits, including three savings plans that supplant dozens currently available for retirement, medical expenses and education.

Bush set certain limits on the panel, requiring that the new plans collect as much tax money as the government collects now.

The proposals also had to retain the progressive system that taxes wealthier taxpayers at higher rates than poorer individuals and families. They were also required to recognize “the importance of homeownership and charity in American society.”

The panel rejected frequently touted ideas to impose taxes on consumption, like a retail sales tax.

Instead, the group chose to use one recommendation to push for major simplification of the current income tax system. Its second recommendation makes changes for businesses that shift the nation’s tax system toward indirect tax on consumption.

Snow said he expected the panel’s ideas to halve the lines on a standard income tax return, also cutting in half the number of taxpayers who need to hire a professional tax preparer.

The panel determined that tax breaks for homeownership and employees’ health insurance could be changed to spread their benefits to more middle-income families.

The panel would convert the home mortgage interest deduction into a credit, while lowering the $1 million limit on mortgages eligible for the tax break to an amount closer to average housing prices, with adjustments for geographical differences.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9883726/

sparrow said:

Posted by: Karen at November 1, 2005 07:30 AM

We have some huge rocks around here for community painting. I'm going to paint messages on those. (Trying to get a group of people organized to help me so we can get more done and split the cost...though I might have extra paint around here already.)

Shhhhhh....may do some highway blogging.

I'm sorely tempted to go back to the neighborhoods where we've discovered so many neoCON and (Republican neoCon supporters) to serve them an indictment against human rights violations.


However...given the appointment, and from listening to others, I've come to the conclusion that there is not ONE thing I could say--corruptions, illegal elections, illegal war, abu Ghraid, etc...--that would make these people see the type of evil they supported to get the 'one thing on their wish list'. As far as they're concerned, they will never view a 19 year old in the same way they view a fetus. And if they lose their 19 year old to an illegal war, then it won't matter to them because they have already put on their rose-colored glasses.

I've had so many rude comments and doors slammed by those supporters in these last weeks that I doubt they will ever look past their nice safe home and their greedy lifestyle and their fanatic religious zeolotry to see the utter despair out here.

But our actions can and do affect the moderates or independents. So Amy is right...we do have to turn off the blog and go be visable out there.

So...anyone out there want to join me in painting rocks or freeway blogging?

monkey said:

So...anyone out there want to join me in painting rocks or freeway blogging?

Posted by: sparrow at November 1, 2005 08:05 AM

For those about to rock, we salute you.

(p.s. General... I'm in)

Karen said:

From a little sparrow, timid and shy to:

SUPER-BLOGGER!

hehehehehehe

oncall said:

Editorial
Another Lost Opportunity

Anyone who imagines that the indictment of Lewis Libby and the legal troubles of Karl Rove will be a cue to bring fresh ideas to the White House should read the signs. With more than three years to go in this term, the bottom line is becoming inescapable. Mr. Bush does not want to change, and perhaps is not capable of changing. The final word on the Supreme Court is yet to come, but the message about the presidency could not be more disheartening.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/01/opinion/01tues1.html?th&emc=th

oncall said:

Thinking about the anniversary of the election is disheartening at the very least. Even though the election was one year ago, it has been less than one year since the inauguration. When I go to work tomorrow, I will be asking in subtle ways if there was one thing you could have done differently one year ago what would it have been? My work situation does not allow me to confront people about their political choices, but I can and frequently do let them know my feelings about what has happened. (It is very easy to move from our poor health care system to broader political issues.) For example, just the other day, one of my patients who agrees with my political choices came into the office for a scheduled visit and together we lamented how bad things have become in America. This 80 year old woman lives in a very conservative neighborhood. So tomorrow, I will be asking people about what they might have done differently one year ago.

madame defarge said:

So just how religious is Boy George??? Will he follow the advice of his church or will he "stay the course..." with his failed Iraqi war???

Sweet Victory: United Methodist Church Calls For Withdrawal

It's one thing when former high-ranking members of your own Administration come out against your war. It's another thing when two-thirds of the country calls the invasion and occupation a mistake. It's really something when your own church issues a statement urging you to pull out the troops now.

Last week, the United Methodist Church Board of Church and Society--the social action committee of the church that both President Bush and Vice President Cheney belong to--resoundingly passed a resolution calling for withdrawal with only two 'no' votes and one abstention.

"As people of faith, we raise our voice in protest against the tragedy of the unjust war in Iraq," the statement read. "Thousands of lives have been lost and hundreds of billions of dollars wasted in a war the United States initiated and should never have fought.... We grieve for all those whose lives have been lost or destroyed in this needless and avoidable tragedy. Military families have suffered undue hardship from prolonged troop rotations in Iraq and loss of loved ones. It is time to bring them home."

The board also issued a strong statement against torture, urging Congress to create an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate detention and interrogation practices at Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan.
--snip--
Bush has asserted that he entered Iraq on a direct order from God. Now, he has a direct order from his own church to leave. Is he listening?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?bid=7&pid=31572

monkey said:

Posted by: madame defarge at November 1, 2005 09:07 AM

The Methodist Church must be talking to a different God... Shrub's God is a crony.

Who knew?

sparrow said:

Posted by: monkey at November 1, 2005 08:09 AM

Bring wife and kids. Escape hurricane destruction.


I'll pick you up at DTW

Let's rock.

Ira said:

oncall I hope that your post about Arlen does not reflect that you believe that Alen will be anything but a cheerleader for Alioto.

you posted
"Despite the unguarded comments of a proud mother, Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), who will chair Judiciary Committee hearings, told reporters in the Capitol, "There is a lot more to do with a woman's right to choose than how you feel about it personally." The Pennsylvania Republican cited adherence to legal precedent in rulings over 30 years upholding abortion rights."

Arlen is likely the least principled Senator in the US Senate. He stands on both sides of choice and it is a total disgrace that Union members and Dems in Pa continue to re-elect him. He will be the force behind the Alioto confirmation exactly the way he was a cheerleader for Thomas.

NonnyO said:

Posted by: monkey at November 1, 2005 07:45 AM

People can NOT get bird flu unless they handle bird droppings. If they could get bird flu from other people, the avian flu would have been a pandemic a VERY long time ago. As is, if memory serves, fewer than 100 people have died from avian flu, world-wide. That little detail seems to escape notice by Lamestream Media spinmeisters who rant and rave about avian flu on the nightly news, thanks to Nitwit ranting and raving about it.

All the hyperbole about avian flu is a DISTRACTION meant to make the people paranoid about "ter-ra-ism" switch their fear from one thing to another... it keeps those already paranoid from thinking rationally.

But the focus is off of Scooter and Rove and Chinkster and pResNitwit and the newest SCOTUS nominee who would (if approved) further erode civil rights and women's rights if people are busy speculating about a pandemic that will quite likley never happen....

Someone in media (or Congress) really needs to tell the truth. If one does not handle bird sh*t on a bird farm where the avian flu already exists, they probably will never get avian flu....

mkh said:

I unerstand how easy it is to get depressed-especially when things are so depressing! After the high of actually seeing someone intelligent understand what has been going on (Fitzgerald) and knowing that it won't stop this steamrolling...well, its easy to be depressed. But Sat there were 40 people freezing their behinds and hands off in little old Corning NY to protest the war and our regular monday 5-5:50 pm protest in ELmira had 15 folks (usaully have 5) yesterday.
As my rabbi asked-do you think that this means we're not Rome?
No- I think we ARE Rome. Same hubris and reality be damned attitude.
sigh.
One day, one person at a time.
Why?
Because we can live no other way and live with ourselves.
I do it because I want to know that I did what I could-that I did my part. Knowing that little parts can cause an avalanche when the conditions shift.

DiAnne said:

Monkey, Nonny

For humans to get bird flu, the virus would have to EVOLVE, and a large segment in this country don't believe in evolution so they should be immune, right?!

I've never gotten a flu shot & I've never had the flu.

Never trust someone who profits, like drug companies, & he's their pawn. There is also the program that he piloted in Texas where he tries to put as many schoolkids on drugs as possible & even tests the teachers for sanity.

I'd seen that Rumsfeld connecton. That's weird. If the Canadians don't panic (& they already have sick geese), I'm not either.

monkey said:

I find the ongoing chickenhawk pandemic to be far more troublesome.

A bird in hand is worth two to the Bush... so says the profits.

oncall said:

Posted by: Ira at November 1, 2005 09:35 AM

Ira,

I was referring to the hypocrisy when I included Specter's quote. When a candidate's mother tells the country that a nominee for the Supreme Court is anti-choice, it really doesn't much matter what a Senator says.

sparrow said:

The Methodist Church must be talking to a different God... Shrub's God is a crony.

Who knew?

Posted by: monkey at November 1, 2005 09:29 AM

Shrubs God is a green thing...looks like this: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The more of these $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
the more almighty powerful Shrub's God is.

sparrow said:

Act on this:

http://www.moveonpac.org/stopalito


Please pass it through emails. Stand up and tell others about it.

Read about Alito's decisions and see for yourself: his decisions are damaging to every issue.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

Posted by: Karen at November 1, 2005 07:30 AM

I'll try to pick up a "no on Ahnuld propositions" yard sign today. I have to fight Ahnuld to make sure that he cannot damage our cause in the still blue, yet increasingly red state of California.

My neighbors already have the "yes" signs out. Time to fight back.

Ira said:

Alito opposes the Miranda decision and feels that the Second Amendment protects the right of gun owners to own machine guns.

Specter will certainly be a cheerleader for Alito. Only Senators Collins and Snowe stand between Alito and a seat on the Supreme Court. Both Collins and Snowe have been totally reluctant to stand up to anything Bush supports including drilling in Anwr or abortion rights. If Collins is up for election in 2008 then maybe its time to start sending her office letters and let her know we are watching how she votes.

Chaffee understands that this is a free vote for him and since he's up for re election in 2006 the RNC will not care much if he opposses Alito.

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