Rove as Neocondom

I'm really torn on this one. On the one hand, I appreciate the wit. I confess that I'm laughing. Hard. (No pun intended.)

On the other hand....

Here's an interesting look at the divide in the Republican party over Miers:

From Bloomberg:

"President George W. Bush prides himself as a man who never runs from a fight and as a leader who pays careful attention to his political base. Harriet Miers has put those qualities in conflict.

"A growing number of Republican activists say Bush blundered in naming Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court, failing to anticipate the firestorm it would ignite among conservative backers and leading opinion makers who question her qualifications. Bush now may be forced to choose between an embarrassing withdrawal of the nomination or accepting a fissure among conservatives that could jeopardize the party's hold on power.

Read the whole article:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aTjbZvUB7vaQ&refer=us

That is damn funny.

It got covered on MSNBC, so you can expect to see video of the condoms on Keith Olbermann tonight I imagine.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents sabotaged power lines to the capital Friday evening, knocking out electricity across the greater Baghdad area and plunging it into darkness on the eve of the country's key vote on a new constitution.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051014/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_blackout;_ylt=AmVg7cT3wWWouConqWdIcWqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

For what it's worth - Bob Schrum on Hardball (I'm paraphrasing) - he knows someone who's worked with Miers, who thinks she is smart, qualified, non-ideological, and while deeply religious, not a sure thing to vote against Roe v. Wade.

Casey, do you really think they'll put pictures of the condoms on TV? I can't imagine it, but I'm going to watch Keith, just in case!

"It's the night that the lights went out in Baghdad"

Cyrano, that's my take on Miers as well. I think she's a case-by-case person.

I've read several discussions between lawyers about the RvW thing, and they all seemed to agree that the law written in and around and on top of that decision is "wobbly" and should be cleaned up. Not sure what that would entail, but it's interesting to contemplate....

Posted by: Amy at October 14, 2005 05:40 PM

If this is true, then maybe she's the best we're going to do here - and maybe Democrats can truly estrange Dubya from his conservative base by choosing to support her.

Obviously, you'd have to know if we're been played here first...

Cyrano's right

Must be sure it's not a case of "Please don't throw me in the briar patch".

On Diane Rehm's Weekly News Roundup (NPR), there were questions re Mier's grasp of the issues, based on her writings...

Web page w/ audio link: http://tinyurl.com/alh3b

Amy-

I am pretty sure they did at around noon while they were waiting for Rove to exit the courthouse. Which he did, through the side exit on 3rd.

Unfortunately, I missed the story and only came in on the tag line at the end and the throw from David Schuster to Amy Roeback.

Karen:

I wanted to make all sorts of comments about the type of hard-hitting journalism you're bringing to the page, but at the time, since there was only one post up, that I couldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole.

Now, did I load that last paragraph up with enough euphemisms to get it out of our systems?

Mark Shields is defending Miers on the Newshour. This equation gets stranger and stranger all the time.

Karen:

GREAT pix! I love the Code Pink Chicks, especially that they just keep at it. They don't listen to the arm-chair lefty pundits that sit it all out. They're all heros to me!

Planet Sees Warmest September on Record
http://tinyurl.com/758ph

Hannity skewered Ms Miers on the radio all afternoon, which only makes me believe even more that all the right doesn't want is the Demos to give her a fight. They want us to cave in and believe that she MIGHT just not overturn Roe. They want us to think they're unsure of her. This is the best con job the Bushies have ever done.
They don't want to have to invoke the nuclear option- and I'll guarantee you that they would, if we fight back on this lady. The nuclear option isn't popular, so they're trying to con us into thinking she isn't so bad to get our support.
Don't let them fry your brains with all that rhetoric.
They know Bush, and they know what Miers believes- and they don't truly care how intelligent she is. That's just what they want us to think.
She's a rubber stamp.
We really need to get back on track. Does anyone REALLY believe Georgy would nominate a candidate with an ounce of moderation? His dad would, and did. But not this Bush.
Watch out, be careful, beware. Rove isn't behind bars yet.

"`Right now the base is completely fractured and people are very concerned about the impact on the 2006 elections,'' said Manuel Miranda, who heads a coalition of 150 conservative and libertarian groups and opposes Miers. "

This is from the link above. Now look at a statement from Reuters news service on the SAME day:

Nearly all polls, including the NBC and Pew surveys, found Bush's approval ratings among his Republican base holding strong at more than 80 percent.

If the MSM isn't fooling that 80% of the Republican base that KNOW who George W Bush is, how about not letting them fool us.
Let's not get into the mode we were before the Iraq war- when so many of our own leaders allowed Georgy to con them into thinking the war in Iraq just MIGHT have something to do with National Security.
I'm tired of my party's naivete.
I'm tired of Rove's con jobs working.
It's time for him to be in Jail.

Posted by: Fe at October 14, 2005 06:18 PM

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Umm, no. Pray, continue.

Repost from last thread

Posted by: Karen at October 14, 2005 09:23 AM

(DUH UHHHHH!)

Posted by: Karen at October 14, 2005 09:23 AM

Oh, Jeez.

I just got home and reread your post, Karen.

I feel so stupid.

THE REASON it is being viewed as a method of birth control is because Karl Rove's picture is on it.

ROFLMAO!!!!

That makes my stupid post all the more nerdy!!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha..............

Euphemisms abound.

It's all I've thought about all day, off and on.

I was even going to ask how come we don't have a cocktail hour around here once a week or once a month. And then I realize, I can't even type a sentence without one in it.

(MY EYES!!!!!)

Euphemisms abound.

It's all I've thought about all day, off and on.

I was even going to ask how come we don't have a cocktail hour around here once a week or once a month. And then I realize, I can't even type a sentence without one in it.

(MY EYES!!!!!)

     
Not sure it will format right, but I just got my first Christmas card! It is supposed to be in the shape of a Christmas tree.

                                          
*****************************It Seems********************************
****************************To Me That*******************************
***************************CHRISTMAS Is******************************
************************Coming Early This Year***********************
*********************With George In Deep DOO DOO******************** 
*******************And Karl Dancing With The Grand*******************
************Jury Again! Bill Is Sweating Out The SEC .***************
**************And Of Course Jack Their Favorite GOP******************
********Lobbiest Has Legal Sharks Nipping All Around Him.************
*****Harriet Has Mired The Rabid Conservatives And Religious*********
****Wackos. Oh - Lets Not Forget "Scooter" Libby Might Have To*******
********Walk The Plank For The Good Of The Neocon Cause.*************
*****Dick Is The Only One Who Will Get Another Corporate Gift********
*********That We Know About From Halliburton [ $100,000 ] .********* 
**************So Bring On Christmas Without De Lay !!!**************                            
*****************HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO - AC*******************                   

Here's the list of defectors and the reason they left the MOST corrupt administration..... EVER!!

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1014-24.htm

Watch out, be careful, beware. Rove isn't behind bars yet.

Posted by: Linda Enterkin at October 14, 2005 07:55 PM
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And if he was (which shrub won't allow), but if he was, they would work it out so he still calls the shots-- like when the manager gets thrown out in a baseball game...

no-like the mafia does

Stress reliever-

Try it!!

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/georgie.htm

So,....

When I said a MONTH ago a story about mercy killings at a hospital in New Orleans was breaking..

Remember how VIGOROUSLY I was questioned, as if I were the one with the needle full of morphine..? Do you remember that?? I remember it VERY well. I was thinking....

Nevermind, you don't REALLY want to know what I was thinking at that moment.

I guess now that CNN is reporting it, yall will just have to believe it.

Too bad no one asked sooner.

Asked about the KILLINGS that is....

October 15, 2005
Review for Payments to Commentator
By ANNE E. KORNBLUT

WASHINGTON, Oct. 14 - The United States attorney's office is investigating whether a conservative commentator hired by the Department of Education to promote the Bush administration's No Child Left Behind initiative performed all the work for which he was paid, a spokesman confirmed Friday.

"We're reviewing the matter," said Channing Phillips, a spokesman for the United States attorney in Washington. He declined to elaborate.

Last week, federal auditors ruled that the administration violated laws against covert propaganda by hiring the commentator, Armstrong Williams, to promote the No Child Left Behind Act in his newspaper column and on his syndicated talk show.

The Education Department is still conducting an internal inquiry into the matter. At issue is whether Mr. Williams must return some of the tens of thousands of dollars the department paid for his work, some of which may have gone unfinished. In the past, Mr. Williams has said he does not need to give any of the payments back.

Colby May, a lawyer for Mr. Williams, said he expected the issue to be resolved soon.

"There is no criminal investigation, query or question in this matter," Mr. May said. "There is clearly a contract dispute. It involves matters on both sides, and we are clearly in the process of resolving it."

A spokeswoman for the inspector general at the Education Department said she could not comment.

Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey, who first disclosed that prosecutors were involved, sharply criticized the administration, saying in a statement: "This case falls into the pattern of corruption and cronyism we are seeing from this administration. Instead of looking out for their political pals, this administration needs to start looking out for the American people and their hard-earned tax dollars."

Meanwhile look what is brewing in Illinois:

Defending Marriage: Why We Can't Settle For "Civil Unions".

This is a full out assault on gay rights in Illinois. The talking points are as preposterous as one could imagine. This effort will be used to help keep the Progressives from gaining political ground in this state, especially Henry Hydes open seat in the Congressional Sixth District. The Republican candidate for this district actually makes Henry Hyde look like a liberal.

http://www.illinoisfamily.org/cu_4_05.pdf

Poll: Domestic Issues Troubling Americans
http://tinyurl.com/a9hn3

Now that hurricanes have left the Gulf Coast in ruins and gasoline has spiked to $3 a gallon, Americans are more likely to name domestic problems as the most important ones facing the United States these days, AP-Ipsos polling found.

Homegrown problems — including worries about fuel costs and political leadership — now rank about even with overseas concerns such as the terror threat and war. Public concerns about
Iraq remain high.

"Things at home are in peril, and we're spread thin throughout the world," said Nick Tepsic, a surgical technician in Boynton Beach, Fla., who is a political independent. "We need to be worrying about things at home. We have a terrible debt going on; we need to improve education; we had two terrible natural disasters here. Our money could best be spent in other ways."

People were asked in an open-ended question last week to name the nation's most important problem.

Just over a third named domestic issues, including energy costs, political leadership and morality, and just over a third named foreign affairs, especially the war in Iraq and the threat of terrorism. About a fourth said the economy.

In July, four in 10 named foreign affairs, about a quarter of those polled named the economy and a quarter named domestic affairs.

Concerns about terrorism have eased just slightly and worries about energy prices and political leadership are among the top domestic concerns, the poll found.

Public opinion analysts say the shift of attention toward the homefront is no surprise. Hurricane reconstruction, high gas prices and political scandals in Washington have been dominating the news this fall.

"The hurricane issue has refocused people on government's response to big domestic problems," said Robert Blendon, a public opinion analyst at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. "Gas prices are the big change over the last four months. It's really impacting families, and they are worried about it for the impact this winter."

Gasoline prices had topped $2 a gallon by midsummer, but three months later were close to $3 per gallon. Consumer confidence has been lagging.

People on the West coast were more likely to name fuel prices as a top concern than people in other regions. Married men were more likely than those who are unmarried to name the economy. People with a high school education or less were more likely to name the war in Iraq than those with more education.

Democrats and independents were more likely than Republicans to name the economy as the top problem.

"The interest in domestic issues has been intensified by gas prices, which have gotten people to focus on where the economy is right now — and that leads to jobs," said David Winston, a Republican pollster.

The worries about Iraq remain high — with almost a fourth of those polled naming the war as their top concern.

"I do feel like we give too much to other countries, rather than spending money here on poverty, education and
AIDS," said Amy Bergstrom, a bartender in Newport News, Va. and a Republican. "But the war has split the nation in two. It's tearing the country apart. People aren't standing behind
President Bush, and other countries see that."

The focus on Iraq has intensified with this weekend's vote on an Iraqi constitution.

Karlyn Bowman, a polling analyst at the American Enterprise Institute said Iraq remains central to public attitudes these days, but she's noticed a shift of attention homeward in recent weeks.

"The hurricanes did focus the public on a lot of domestic needs," she said. "Iraq is still there as a big issue, but these domestic issues now loom larger."

The poll of 499 adults was conducted Oct. 3-5 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

It's good to see specific mention of "political leadership and morality" in this poll. We must be ready with something to offer when the timing is right. Of course it's important to stay out of the way while BushCo, Frist, Delay & all hemorrhage from their self-inflicted wounds, but as public awareness shifts to the leadership vacuum, Dems must be ready with something to offer. Last year, we saw all too often that many were lukewarm to Bush, but public perception was that JK & Dems had nothing of substance in exchange. Given the events of the past year, I think JK's domestic program would be embraced. We must offer something similar to prevent the mean-spirited branch of the Republican party from using crisis once again to remove even more strands from the thread-bare safety net and shaft the have-nots yet again.

This poor guy (above) is sure misguided:

"I do feel like we give too much to other countries"

(He is a Republican and actually says we need to spend more on education, poverty and AIDS, which is a Democrat position. On the other hand, he's not aware that of the 22 most developed countries, we rank at the BOTTOM for foreign aid. Maybe he's including costs of war, but if war is a gift, it's a wierd one.)

"But the war has split the nation in two. It's tearing the country apart. People aren't standing behind President Bush, and other countries see that."

(I agree the stupid war has polarized the nation further, but so has Bush (who has NOT been a uniter but a divider, using every wedge issue Rove could tink of). If other countries see that people aren't standing behind President Bush, I think it's positive, as they may then realize that we aren't all mindless idiots.)

The guy means well, I guess. I wonder if I could talk to him face to face and stay calm - depends how much Fox he's been exposed to.

Most people think we spend much, much more than 1% of the budget on foreign aid.

Speaking of Domestic Concerns ...

"In just five years, the president and his party have turned the largest budget surpluses in our history into the largest deficits. They've already added $1.2 trillion to our national debt with unwise tax cuts and runaway spending. And if their policies are not reversed, they could saddle us with $10 trillion of debt before George W. Bush leaves offices. Despite the "deficits don't matter" psychology of today's GOP, this debt undermines our fragile economic strength and puts us in ever-deeper hock to China and other countries who help finance all the red ink."

--From "Cuts that Heal" by Tom Vilsack, D-Iowa, Governor and chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council, reprinted on Heartland PAC, originally published October 13, 2005, The Wall Street Journal

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=137&subid=900109&contentid=253556

Posted by: Christy at October 15, 2005 03:45 AM

Christy, I remember seeing or reading about those mercy killings in NO at the time they happened.

I am pretty sure I read about it in the Reno newspaper when I was there, and they had articles about it twice.

The people who gave the morphine to the patients said they knew they could not get them out in time, and they would suffer horrible deaths. They seperated them into groups, and the patients who were terminable and not expected to live long were the ones given the morphine.

The article at that time said also that they prayed for forgiveness after they did it, but it was for MERCY.

IMHO, they better not get penalized.