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Fear Up Preview and Discussion


Last night at Busboys and Poets, donors to Fear Up got a preview and generated a far ranging discussion about the War, Guantanamo, and the antiwar movement. It was a spicy evening. But then, it's a spicy time.

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Marietta Hedges and Maboud Ebramizadeh read from the play

Maboud read: TIPTON MAN:

We were moved to a new tent. The next morning our numbers were called out and we were made to sit while soldiers chained us up together and then to a hook on the floor. Then, these guys came in with clippers, they shaved my hair and my beard; they cut all my clothes off and threw this medication over me, to kill the lice. Then they unlocked me from the floor and led me into another tent naked where they forced me to squat again and did another “intimate cavity search”. They made us take off the blue jumpsuits and put on orange jumpsuits, and made us wear thick gloves taped to our sleeves. Then, they made us sit outside on the gravel while they processed everyone. We had no water all day, but towards the end they gave us an MRE [a ready-to-eat US army meal] but no spoon. I had to try and trough it like an animal.

Marietta read:

My husband has been serving in Iraq with Kilo Company. He was supposed to come home several times. It was supposed to be a six-month deployment. So he was supposed to come home in October. They extended it to December. Then they extended it to March, and then finally to April to make the year. And the week before he was supposed to leave Iraq, he got extended for three months.

I’m mad at the Army for breaking its promise but I’m also mad at my husband. I fought with him over the phone about wanting him to come home, especially since our baby is having minor surgery next week. But Byron can’t take the time off like a civilian. He can’t quit his job without risking jail time. I felt like, you know, something has to be able to be done. Why can’t you talk to somebody and why can’t you just come home? But like, really, he can’t. They can do whatever they want with him. You’re signing up for the military just as much as your spouse is. You don’t just re-enlist a soldier, you really enlist the whole family.

and other selections.

Ronald Nelson read a statement from John Kerry, in support of the Fear Up project and what we are trying to do. He also implored those present to give money.

And then John Pike got up and spoke about trying to stop the war before it began.

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At the moment he was chiding the antiwar movement for poor organization and leadership, Cindy Sheehan arrived.

Without going into great detail, let us say that Cindy and Medea Benjamin and several others took exception to what he was saying. Cindy gave a passionate plea for positive thinking and pointed out that she now goes all over the world and finds thousands and thousands of supporters for the peace efforts here in the US and globally.

But John Pike had a point too. There are not a lot of folks/organizations on the same page as far as building actions goes. Afterwards many small discussions broke out all over the room. And I watched and listened and tried to manage my own feelings: frustration, guilt, anger, pride in what I do.

This morning I searched out some sources for discussion. The topic: NOT what is wrong with the antiwar movement? The topic for the day is: WHAT DO WE DO?

Background reading:

Article by Mark Levine

Quote:

"[The movement] must become more about human rights, balanced perspective, recognizing just how US has contributed to the Iraqi people's suffering, but also how the Hussein regime, the UN and outside powers contributed too. Only then can we show true solidarity with the Iraqi people… At the same time, it's about ideology. We must create more think tanks and institutions in Washington itself that can have influence on the policy process and be guided by values and principles of the progressive community while incorporating -- and in so doing, transforming -- issues related to 'national security.' Because if we can't speak that language, we'll continue to be relegated to the street, unable to build cultural change in Washington and thus the country." As of today, concurs another senior organizer, "what's still missing is both depth of message and more heavyweight people to deliver it against the likes of William Kristol and Richard Perle."

Another perspective

Quote:

Let us put aside our small differences, our organizational concerns, our divergences around matters of minor moment. Remember our common aspirations and forget the rest. If we can do this, we have the opportunity to build a movement unprecedented in the history of our people. If we cannot, nothing lies before us but never ending war and universal suffering both at home and abroad.

And Phyllis Bennis, from the Institute for Policy Studies wrote:

What does our movement need for this work? (Looking at 2005)
• Internationalism: serious networking, engagement and intersection with global peace movement.
• Linkage with Israel/Palestine question: crucial issue of dual occupations; peace movement has accomplished important initial educational and mobilization work in normalizing the issue within the broader peace and justice movement, but needs to do more to make links.
• Organizing strategies: beyond giant national actions, we must figure out ways of exacerbating the deficits/challenges facing U.S. strategy, and educating on those rising costs and deficits. March 19th mobilization will be key.
• Grassroots media and training -- we can look at the model of the U.S. Campaign to End Israeli Occupation in organizing regional training sessions in five-six state regions. Provides basic skills training in media, outreach/education and advocacy, but simultaneously mobilizes and energizes movement activists still paralyzed with post-election depression.
• Speaking tours probably good idea -- but have to be linked with outreach and media strategies, not just educational. Our national movement, centered in UFPJ, needs to play the role of linking local and regional organizing efforts into a national peace movement able to speak with one voice, one message.

And finally, Cindy Sheehan herself:

The challenge of the peace movement, now that we have identified the problem so well and have the vast majority of Americans on our side, is to convince each and every last American that he/she has a very intimate and personal stake in what we are allowing our government to do in Iraq and the world. ~Cindy Sheehan

Today I am back at the White House and we are talking, and planning Camp Democracy. Let's have the national discussion about the antiwar movement here as well.

After you read the above articles, what do you think would get all of us to be more active and organized?

117 Comments

karen said:

This just in:

I wanted to share this letter Kerry sent to Bush this morning, asking that when Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki addresses Congress tomorrow, the Prime Minister be clear and candid about realities on the ground in Iraq and that he strongly condemn the use of terror anywhere in the world – including by Hezbollah against Israel. April Boyd


July 25, 2006


The Honorable George W. Bush
The President
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

As you know, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki will be addressing a Joint Session of Congress tomorrow. I write in hopes that you will encourage Prime Minister Maliki to use this as an opportunity to address some important issues that are on the minds of many Americans.

Members of Congress strongly support Prime Minister Maliki in his efforts to end the sectarian violence and bring stability to Iraq, and we share his hope for a better future for his country. I believe that addressing the following issues will only help to build confidence in his government as they embark on the difficult tasks ahead.

1. Hezbollah and Iran. Many are very concerned about comments made by Prime Minister Maliki about the ongoing Israeli initiative against Hezbollah, a terrorist organization which started the current conflict by mounting an attack against Israel. Specifically, Prime Minister Maliki described the Israeli operations in Lebanon and Gaza as “criminal” and called “on the world to take quick stands to stop the Israeli aggression.” This is in notable contrast to comments from other key regional powers, including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan, which criticized Hezbollah for “unexpected, inappropriate and irresponsible acts.” Given that it is essential to send a clear message that terrorism is never acceptable, and that ending support for terrorist organizations like Hezbollah by countries including Iran is key to winning the war on terror, Prime Minister Maliki should clarify that he condemns Hezbollah for its attack on Israel, and that he believes that Iran should not continue to provide weapons to Hezbollah.

2. Civil War. Prime Minister Maliki acknowledged on Monday that approximately one hundred Iraqis were being killed every day in sectarian violence, yet he maintains that there is no civil war; in fact he said that “Civil war will not happen to Iraq.” Many in Iraq and here in America believe that a civil war is already under way, and would appreciate hearing from Prime Minister Maliki what conditions he believes would rise to the level of a civil war, what exactly his plan is for ending the sectarian violence, and what role he envisions for U.S. troops if the sectarian violence continues to get worse.

3. U.S. Forces in Iraq. Ambassador Khalilzad recently said that he and General Casey had been discussing with the Iraqi government the formation of a joint commission to outline terms and conditions for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and that they planned to sit down with Prime Minister Maliki to establish this joint commission as soon as Ambassador Khalilzad returned to Iraq. When asked Monday how long he thought Iraq would need the assistance of foreign troops, Prime Minister Maliki said "It is definitely not decades, not even years.” Prime Minister Maliki should provide an update on the status of negotiations with this joint commission, and give us his best estimate on when U.S. troop withdrawals could begin, and when he expects this process to be complete.

4. Militias. Prime Minister Maliki was quoted on Monday as saying that "We have reached an agreement in the government that we will have to confront them (the militias) and deal with them.” Given the importance of disbanding these militias, Prime Minister Maliki should let us know exactly what this agreement is, what specifically his plan is for disbanding these militias, including whether it is part of his reconciliation plan, and state definitively that there will be no amnesty for Iraqis who kill U.S. soldiers.

Addressing these issues will help to ensure that the Prime Minister’s visit is as successful and productive as possible. Thank you for your attention to this request.

Sincerely,
John Kerry

Suz said:

Ok, so I need some help with this. Maybe someone has some ideas for me.

Pro-war Joe Schwartz (R) has placed a huge campaign billboard adjacent to the Episcopalian for Peace sign right along the I94 highway. I'm trying to figure out how to get in touch with these Episcopalians to ask them to take down their sign or to find another way to counter the misinformation that the placement of those signs promote. Has anybody else seen their sign or their web address?

This is not the right link for Episcopalians for Peace. Anyone have any themselves?

http://www.epfnational.org/publish/

(Good link anyway.)

monkey said:

The Story In Your Eyes
by Moody Blues

I've been thinking about our fortune
And I've decided that we're really not to blame
For the love that's deep inside us now
Is still the same
And the sounds we make together
Is the music to the story in your eyes
It's been shining down upon me now
I realize
Listen to the tide slowly turning
Wash all our heartaches away
We're part of the fire that is burning
And from the ashes we can build another day
But I'm frightened for your children
That the life that we are living is in vain
And the sunshine we've been waiting for
Will turn to rain
Listen to the tide slowly turning
Wash all our heartaches away
We're part of the fire that is burning
And from the ashes we can build another day
But I'm frightened for the children
That the life that we are living is in vain
And the sunshine we've been waiting for
Will turn to rain
When the final line is over
And it's certain that the curtain's gonna fall
I can hide inside your sweet sweet love
For ever more

monkey said:

Like sheep to the slaughter (and wouldn't this be like, uh, giving away troop movement information to the enemy???)...

CNN Breaking News: President Bush says more U.S. military police units and troops will be deployed to Baghdad from elsewhere in Iraq to help fight increased insurgent attacks.

dwahzon said:

Here's an action I think is useful and will actually have some impact if it can be brought to the floor of the House for discussion...

It's time to repeal the President's Iraq War Powers
by Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey

~snip~
This occupation of Iraq must end, now, and President Bush must bring our troops home.

That is why, today, I am introducing the Iraq War Powers Repeal Act of 2006. It is past time for Congress to demand that the Bush Administration come clean on Iraq, and put the safety of our troops, and the security of our nation first.

By repealing the Iraq War Powers, Congress would resume its Constitutional role overseeing the use of military force, and would reassert its authority by bringing our troops home.

Of course, the passage of this bill will be an up-hill struggle, but it is a fight that we can no longer avoid. Rescinding the President's war powers in Iraq is the least that we can do for our troops, and for their families who anxiously await their return. With over 2,550 brave men and women having given their lives, and thousands seriously wounded, how many more must die before we put an end to this madness?

This is one more step in putting and end to occupation. It is time to pass the "Iraq War Powers Repeal Act of 2006."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/25/9581/05716

Suz said:

Dwahzon,

Good link to kos. I think a poster there makes a great point that Bush never specifically got war powers from Congress. But even so...I don't think the current Republicans are willing to do this.

Gotta get out to work on this.

I'm going to listen to a local speaker today to see if I like his plan. The interesting thing is that I like Madame's and Ellen Beth's candidate better than any of my own. Also, lots of candidates I like in the 2 hour away range... (Oh, woe is me....)

ralpheh said:

Ok, so I need some help with this. Maybe someone has some ideas for me.

Pro-war Joe Schwartz (R) has placed a huge campaign billboard adjacent to the Episcopalian for Peace sign right along the I94 highway. I'm trying to figure out how to get in touch with these Episcopalians to ask them to take down their sign or to find another way to counter the misinformation that the placement of those signs promote. Has anybody else seen their sign or their web address?

This is not the right link for Episcopalians for Peace. Anyone have any themselves?

http://www.epfnational.org/publish/

(Good link anyway.)

Posted by: Suz at July 25, 2006 11:31 AM

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

I wonder if the billboard company would release that information about who is renting the sign....

Where is it on I-94? what mile marker?

Suz said:

Posted by: ralpheh at July 25, 2006 01:39 PM

I don't know the exact mile marker. I just know it's between Baker Road and Chelsea, most likely about 5 miles west of Baker.

(As you're heading east on 94.)

NonnyO said:

Posted by: monkey at July 25, 2006 12:10 PM

Yup, it is "giving information to the enemy." (Neffer mind no one in Iraq was an "enemy" before The Decider decided to commit a war crime by illegally invading Iraq - but I digress).

But, of course, The Decider would never betray his country with loose lips, now, would he? The Decider is always right since he's trying to keep us all safe from the bogey-men ter-rists out there, no?

And just because The Decider says he agrees with 'wanting' to reduce the number of US troops in Iraq doesn't mean the increase or the shift of US troops there are more LIES, no?

NonnyO said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060725/ap_on_go_co/signing_statements
Sen. Specter prepping bill to sue Bush

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060725/ap_on_go_co/interstate_abortion
Democrats seek changes to abortion bill

LEAVING PREGNANT TEENS IN THE LURCH
Nancy Keenan, TomPaine.com
If Bill Frist and his anti-choice allies prevail, today's Senate vote on the Child Custody Protection Act could mean tragedy for pregnant teenagers.

http://www.alternet.org/story/39413/
Rachel Neumann on the so-called ‘Roe v. Wade for Men’:
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/themix/39430

AMERICA'S 100 YEARS OF OVERTHROW
Robert Sherrill, Texas Observer
The US is addicted to overthrowing foreign governments -- 14 in the past century -- from Cuba to Chile to Iran.
http://www.alternet.org/audits/39416/

monkey said:

Deep Thoughts ...

by Jack Handy

"The next time a republican candidate, pundit or supporter claims that democrats have done a good job of obstructing legislation and other items they deem important to America, it would be wise not to accuse them of being weak if you simultaneously claim they are able to derail a government that is controlled at all levels by Republicans"

Everybody's working for the weak end.

madame defarge said:

For what it's worth, here's what I believe RE: becoming more active, organized, & involved in the Iraqi situation...Move beyond the problems & focus on solutions.

Stop agonizing over the problems & blaming this administration for its failures in Iraq and start focussing on & supporting concrete solutions. Organize peace/community/national messages & groups around specific plans offered by those whose views you support, i.e., Jack Murtha, John Kerry, & other elected officials. Another strategy is to support views by non-elected officials who have no skin in the game in an election year and convince our elected officials to do the same.

Perhaps it will be easier to bring more people together when we do more than protest the war; instead educate ourselves & others about viable solutions and then openly support those solutions. It seems to me that it will help break down partisan barriers to get the 65%+ majority of people in our country who believe this war is a complete mess.

Based on everything I've read so far, Peter Galbraith (author of "The End of Iraq") seems to offer very logical & well-reasoned solutions to fixing the country we broke, resolving internal Iraqi conflicts, & minimizing US presence there.

In fact, if you read nothing else about the Iraqi situation, read Galbraith's op-ed in today's NYTimes. As he points out, the current Iraqi government seems only to be governing the Green Zone. Please take time to read the entire piece here ===>
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/opinion/25galbraith.html

My $.0002 worth, adjusted for inflation

Matthew Carnicelli said:

The Kinzer book sounds like a must read. I highly recommend his earlier Iran book, "All the Shah's Men" - even if it is a truly heart-breaking story. I completely agree with Kinzer's contention that much of the US's problems in the region begin with the overthrow of the Mossadegh government.

Most Democrats in power have, in their own way, been as seduced by the dark side as Republicans - by the idea that America is somehow the solution to all the world's problems. How would I love to see us revisit Washington's advice in his Farewell Address, and return to a non-interventionist foreign policy wherever possible.

That said, it is worth noting that while Dean Acheson and Harry Truman did try to mediate the Iranian-British dispute - they were quite sympathetic to the Iranian cause, and would never have gone along with the idea of a coup. It was only when Dulles and the Eisenhower regime came into power that the plan to subvert a democratically elected government was hatched.

mbk said:

Karen--
Wonderful that you have Sen. Kerry's support!

Posted by: Suz at July 25, 2006 11:31 AM

Suz, you might inquire for further information about the group you are looking for by checking these links, and also, by calling Episcopal headquarters. Many large organizations have 1-800 toll free numbers. 800 information line is 1-800-555-1212.

www.centerforfaithinpolitics.org/2006/05/largest_rebel_group_signs_peac.html

2006/05/episcopals_face_another_battle.html - 10k -

As for myself, I know I will be busy with new responsibilities - and won't have as much time to research and learn history and political strategies.

If I am aware of anything going on that can solve some of the problems I will try to make time to be involved in it.

It will be great to not be so limited by location, even though my home responsibilities will be increasing, my access to events will be greatly increased also, which is nice.

monkey said:

The Weight
by The Band

I pulled into Nazareth, I was feelin' about half past dead;
I just need some place where I can lay my head.
"Hey, mister, can you tell me where a man might find a bed?"
He just grinned and shook my hand, and "No!", was all he said.

Take a load off Fannie, take a load for free;
Take a load off Fannie, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me.

I picked up my bag, I went lookin' for a place to hide;
When I saw Carmen and the Devil walkin' side by side.
I said, "Hey, Carmen, come on, let's go downtown."
She said, "I gotta go, but m'friend can stick around."

Take a load off Fannie, take a load for free;
Take a load off Fannie, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me.

Go down, Miss Moses, there's nothin' you can say
It's just ol' Luke, and Luke's waitin' on the Judgement Day.
"Well, Luke, my friend, what about young Anna Lee?"
He said, "Do me a favor, son, woncha stay an' keep Anna Lee
company?"

Take a load off Fannie, take a load for free;
Take a load off Fannie, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me.

Crazy Chester followed me, and he caught me in the fog.
He said, "I will fix your rags, if you'll take Jack, my dog."
I said, "Wait a minute, Chester, you know I'm a peaceful man."
He said, "That's okay, boy, won't you feed him when you can."

Take a load off Fannie, take a load for free;
Take a load off Fannie, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me.

Catch a Cannonball, now, t'take me down the line
My bag is sinkin' low and I do believe it's time.
To get back to Miss Annie, you know she's the only one.
Who sent me here with her regards for everyone.

Take a load off Fannie, take a load for free;
Take a load off Fannie, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me.

monkey said:

Nancy Pelosi statement regarding Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's address to Congress

RAW STORY
Published: Tuesday July 25, 2006

"Iraqi Prime Minister's Maliki's criticism of Israel's right to defend itself is unacceptable," Pelosi said in a statement.

"At the White House this morning, Mr. Maliki did not retreat from his comments on Israel and once again failed to criticize Hamas and Hezbollah's terrorist activities.

"Unless Mr. Maliki disavows his critical comments of Israel and condemns terrorism, it is inappropriate to honor him with a joint meeting of Congress."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Nancy_Pelosi_statement_regarding_Iraqi_Prime_0725.html

Ira said:

last month Rick Santorum said poof I found the weapons of mass distruction. Now look at this latest Lou Harris poll which makes absolutely no sense.


snip

"Belief that Iraq Had Weapons of Mass Destruction Has Increased Substantially
Most people do not think that U.S. troops will be out of Iraq in the next two years

"Despite being widely reported in the media that the U.S. and other countries have not found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, surprisingly; more U.S. adults (50%) think that Iraq had such weapons when the U.S. invaded Iraq. This is an increase from 36 percent in February 2005."

Ira said:

destruction typo

monkey said:

Ira, I was just reading the same thing...

"Filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist," said Sen. Rick Santorum, Pennsylvania Republican, during a June 21 press conference detailing the newly declassified information.

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, who shared the podium, said, "Iraq was not a WMD-free zone."

In recent weeks, the Michigan Republican has recommended that more material confiscated since the invasion be declassified and made public, including a 1998 standing order to Iraqi officials to hide or destroy weapons and thus evade inspectors from the United Nations.

Meanwhile, the Harris poll offered some positive feedback on Iraq. Seventy-two percent of respondents said the Iraqi people are better off now than under Saddam Hussein's regime -- a figure similar to that of 2004, when it stood at 76 percent.

In addition, 64 percent say Saddam had "strong links" with al Qaeda, up from 62 percent in October 2004. Fifty-five percent said that "history will give the U.S. credit for bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq."

more from moonies...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060724-110410-8309r.htm

Suz said:

Hi again.

Ok, so I got the correct link: http://www.edomi.org/home.asp

And left a messege with them. The billboards are near exit 165 if anyone else wants to call them between 8:30 and 4:30 M-F.

I told them it looked like they were endorsing Schwartz and that they should call and have their advertisement moved to a new location.

monkey said:

Posted by: Suz at July 25, 2006 06:58 PM

Way to go, Suz!

I'll assume any "may the Schwartz be with you" references made here would elicit boos.

Cyrano said:

Kofi Annan alleging that UN observers were deliberately targeted by Israel. Just on CNN.

monkey said:

Posted by: Cyrano at July 25, 2006 07:03 PM

Oh, that'll go over well... not to mention being a highly irresponsible thing to say without proof.

Fresh Roasted Kofi

monkey said:

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html

monkeybackpeddle

Suz said:

Posted by: monkey at July 25, 2006 07:02 PM
Posted by: monkey at July 25, 2006 07:13 PM

monkeybackpeddle

Posted by: monkey at July 25, 2006 07:17 PM

You're in rare form tonight!

May the Schwartz be with you too.

AMERICA'S 100 YEARS OF OVERTHROW
Robert Sherrill, Texas Observer
The US is addicted to overthrowing foreign governments -- 14 in the past century -- from Cuba to Chile to Iran.
http://www.alternet.org/audits/39416/

Posted by: NonnyO at July 25, 2006 02:25 PM

Thanks for the read. Though the 20 or so overthrows in the past century (as mentioned in the comments - surprised at Australia, though the current John Howard regime is a disgrace as well) are FAR from complete. There are non-democracies also overthrown, not to mention failed overthrows.

Unless we change the political culture in the US, NO nation on earth is truly sovereign.

Posted by: Matthew Carnicelli at July 25, 2006 03:51 PM

Good idea to ponder.

While Truman is remembered as the "Korean War President," and his intervention in that war definitely saved South Korea, he also disrupted the democratic process there before the war.

He ensured that a right-wing Korean-American who had hid away in the US for fifty years, Syngman Rhee, would be South Korea's first president, while there were a number of better qualified candidates who actually fought the Japanese colonizers on Korean soil. Problem was, these guys were leftists and "too willing to work with the North."

If the democratic process were allowed to unfold back then, the history of Korean peninsula today would be vastly different. The military fascist coup by Park Chung Hee in the 1960s may not have happened. While people say that it was Park's ironfist rule that started the South Korean economic miracle, I am pretty sure that even without him, South Korea would have developed in a slower, but more balanced, fashion, benefiting the labor and the peasants as much as the conglomerates like Samsung. (The imbalanced growth has caused the Koreans major headaches, starting in the late 1980s, when democracy finally took hold and labor unions were first legalized.)

Lots of American presidents meddled with South Korean politics, including Eisenhower, Nixon, Carter (yes, even Democratic Carter), Reagan, and W. Reagan commandeered a Korean Air passenger jet into Soviet airspace for spy duty, where it was shot down, killing 270; W bribed the opposition parties into impeaching the current leftist South Korean president. No wonder the average South Korean no longer likes us - and can't stand our megabases there.

monkey said:

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Blackouts plague large cities throughout U.S.
Triple-digit temperatures in some areas; heat blamed for at least 34 deaths

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14024095/

Is this a great country, or what?

DiAnne said:

Why do politicians try to tell Al Maliki what to say?
Just let him talk - US went to "free Iraq" - this is the government the people voted for.
Either we are supporting democracy or we are grabbing oil.
It can't be both. I think it's the latter.
What did they expect - he's a Shiite. & he's the leader.
He's what they wanted - now he's not acting like a proper
puppet.

Posted by: DiAnne at July 25, 2006 10:33 PM

Iraq was never meant to be a sovereign country. It was always meant to be our puppet.

After all, Saddam was our own creation, and he was overthrown with an expensive war because he started defying us.

The new Iraqi government, however democratic may be, will suffer the same fate if it dares to defy us again.

It's sad, but true, and will always remain so, as long as we keep electing the same corrupt imperialist leaders.

Posted by: DiAnne at July 25, 2006 10:33 PM

Al Malaki must have been out of the loop. He believed that democracy business.

monkey said:

Posted by: DiAnne at July 25, 2006 10:33 PM

9.9 out of 10 Americans couldn't tell you who Al Maliki even is, and acting the way they want him to isn't even on their radar, so not matter what happened today at Dog & Phony Bowl XXXVII is irrelevant.

Is this not the most unbelievable lack of leadership in so-called wartime... ever. A LONG way from fireside chats, rallying, informing, and uniting the country for the cause... cuz the cause is cussed.

America Is Settling.


DiAnne said:

Yeah but alot of the Democrats question nothing

DiAnne said:

I mean Democratic politicians - special interests, political correctness, maybe a cliche by now but much lack of spine
when it comes to speaking truth to power. R-lite nowdays.

DiAnne said:

WHAT DOES IT TAKE?!!

Israel Drops White Phosphorus Bombs, Littlest Victims Suffer
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072506A.shtml
Jawad Najem, a surgeon at the hospital, said patients admitted Sunday had burns from phosphorous incendiary weapons used by Israel. The Geneva Conventions ban using white phosphorus as an incendiary weapon against civilian populations and in air attacks against military forces in civilian areas.

Robert Perry | A "New" Middle East? W's or Osama's
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072506B.shtml
Robert Perry writes, "As George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice huddle with representatives of old-line Arab regimes and as Israel continues pounding targets in Lebanon, it is becoming increasingly clear why al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden wanted Bush to gain a second term as US President."

David Dill, Doug Jones, Barbara Simons | The Diebold Bombshell
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072506C.shtml
"Most computer scientists have long viewed Diebold as the poster child for all that is wrong with touch screen voting machines. But we never imagined that Diebold would be as irresponsible and incompetent as they have turned out to be," write David Dill, Doug Jones and Barbara Simons.

Bush Keeps Pakistani Nuclear Expansion From Congress
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072506D.shtml
The Bush administration acknowledged yesterday that it had long known about Pakistan's plans to build a large plutonium-production reactor. Congress sharply criticized the Bush administration for failing to disclose the existence of a facility that could influence an upcoming Congressional debate over US nuclear policy toward India and Pakistan.

Bush Fails to Revoke Security Clearances Over Plame Case
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072506E.shtml
No one in the Bush administration has been stripped of security clearances over the leak of former CIA officer Valerie Plame's identity to reporters three years ago. For more than a year, Democrats have been calling on Bush to fire presidential adviser Karl Rove and any other aides who discussed Plame's CIA status with reporters - or, at the least, to revoke their security clearances.

Feds Eliminate 157 Auditors of Rich Taxpayers
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072506F.shtml
The federal government is moving to eliminate the jobs of nearly half of the lawyers at the Internal Revenue Service who audit tax returns of some of the wealthiest Americans, specifically those who are subject to gift and estate taxes when they transfer parts of their fortunes to their children and others.

I mean Democratic politicians - special interests, political correctness, maybe a cliche by now but much lack of spine
when it comes to speaking truth to power. R-lite nowdays.

Posted by: DiAnne at July 25, 2006 11:38 PM

That's what some of the posts today indicated, with Democratic presidents participating in imperialist global politics.

Helping the Dems retake the government is NOT enough. We have to change the mentality, otherwise it'll be more of the same.

DiAnne said:

David Sirota has a Kos diary - Friedman admits to knowing nothing about trade - thought CAFTA was "Caribbean" rather than "Central American" - that would be like Bernahnke knowing nothing about economics

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/7/25/15020/9019

ralpheh said:

Iraq was never meant to be a sovereign country. It was always meant to be our puppet.

After all, Saddam was our own creation, and he was overthrown with an expensive war because he started defying us.

The new Iraqi government, however democratic may be, will suffer the same fate if it dares to defy us again.

It's sad, but true, and will always remain so, as long as we keep electing the same corrupt imperialist leaders.

Posted by: Ally McLesbian at July 25, 2006 10:50 PM

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Very true, "democracy" in Iraq was hastily and reluctantly added afterthought. The original PNAC plan for Iraq was to install a "friendly" dictator - someone like Ahmed Chalabi or associated with the INC.

BTW

DFA and Move On are pulling out the stops for Ned Lamont (now am not saying that people in Connecticut should vote for Lamont, I am just reporting the facts...).

dwahzon said:

I am angry. Everyone of the senators on this list is going to get a letter.

The ones that voted yes are going to get a blast of reality -- an introduction to the world where parents hurt young girls and do not nurture them.

The ones that voted no are going to be urged to go back at this unbelievable perversion of a law and change it if not repeal it all together.

It demonstrates what we saw in the 1960's and 1970's. The legislators are by and large a bunch of over-privileged white males totally out of touch with gritty reality who cannot conceive that a parent-child relationship is anything other than a loving, nurturing environment.

If they can't keep up with what people actually deal with in their lives on a daily basis, then they shouldn't be making any laws.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/2379/94950

Matthew Carnicelli said:

I wrote a column about the House version of this bill last year:

http://www.democracycellproject.net/blog/archives/2005/05/confronting_the_1.html

monkey said:

Rice pressured to call for Middle East cease-fire

Updated: 1 hour, 9 minutes ago

(AP)ROME - Almost every nation attending an international conference in Rome is pressing Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to call for an immediate end to the fighting on the Israeli-Lebanese border.

But Rice, who was attending the session on Wednesday, stood her ground in two days of diplomacy in Lebanon and Israel and the West Bank. Rather than a quick fix, she has repeatedly said the region needs enduring solutions, and other U.S. officials have raised doubts about an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah fighters in the south of Lebanon.

more...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14035942/

Mag: Conservatives want 'incompetent' Condoleezza Rice transferred to advisory role

RAW STORY
Published: Tuesday July 25, 2006

Claiming that President Bush's foreign policy agenda has been "hijacked," some prominent conservatives want the "incompetent" Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice transferred to an advisory role, according to an article in a conservative magazine, RAW STORY has found.

"Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda," reports Insight Magazine.

Excerpts from the article:

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The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike [former Secretary of State Colin] Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

more...
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Mag_Conservatives_want_incompetent_Condoleezza_Rice_0725.html

Suz said:

Two important comments from Dwahzon's Kos thread:

"What I'm MOST upset about though is that I am on email lists for NARAL and Planned Parenthood. I get money requests from them ALL the time. I also get action requests. Well...for the last few months it's just been money request after money request. Yesterday I finally get an action request from NARAL. This was LITERALLY the FIRST email I've gotten from them about Frist's bill. And they send it the day before the vote?!

We should have been notified of this MONTHS ago?!! I could have ******* had a call to action about this s**t EVERY DAY for months if I had known about it. We could have generated SO many phone calls that those 14 Dems would have certainly thought twice...and some of them may have changed their votes.

This is just inexcusable inaction from NARAL and Planned Parenthood. What the **** are they THERE for if not to warn us about this s**t?! Christ! I can't pay attention to EVERY ****ing vote that's coming up myself?!! That's why I give THEM money!!

They really dropped the ball on this. And they'll be hearing from me about it."

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***The right-winged neocons have been calling for years. They don't receive notices the day before the vote!*****

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"from mercurynews.com
...a last-minute deal between Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Ensign, approved 98-0, would prevent men who had committed incest against their daughters from suing an individual who takes the young woman to another state for an abortion. Provisions to exempt from prosecution members of the clergy and grandparents who assist a girl with abusive parents were rejected in negotiations."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15121502.htm

sparrow said:

Another diary about the Senate ban on interstate transportation of a minor and the ultimate messege they really mean:

"it is perfectly ******** clear that Republicans are perfectly happy see teenagers get disowned, beaten and killed if it means they'll think twice about fooling around."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/73129/4333

sparrow said:

College graduates earning less in the last five years.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/74756/7412

Great diary.

monkey said:

BREAKING: Lebanon crisis talks collapse
Crisis talks fail over cease-fire, sources say
U.S. resisted calls for immediate truce

ROME, Italy (CNN) -- Talks between key Middle East players in Rome on a plan for ending the 15-day-old conflict in Lebanon Wednesday failed to reach agreement on an immediate cease-fire.

Officials called a halt to the conflict, but U.S Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said any cease-fire must be "sustainable."

U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan reiterated calls for the deployment of an international peacekeeping force, but there was no consensus on its creation.

Leaders made agreements on humanitarian aid and reconstruction, but discussions faltered as the United States resisted demands for an immediate cease-fire, insisting that a cessation of hostilities must be part of a wider plan to permanently disarming Lebanese Hezbollah militants.

Rice said she had been moved by an impassioned plea by Lebanon's Prime Minister to "stop the killing" but said the U.S. favors long-term efforts to end "spasms of violence" in the region.

Tensions were raised during the discussions by the deaths of four U.N. military observers in an Israeli attack on a U.N. outpost. (Full story)

The incident, claimed as a mistake by Israel, has been condemned by the international community, with Annan describing it as "apparently deliberate."

Participants agreed to continue discussions, but CNN's John King said there was a sense among European and Arab leaders that the United States was buying time for Israel in its offensive against Hezbollah.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/26/mideast.romeconf/index.html

"BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS"

DiAnne said:

This could be good - this happened during the Vietnam war and civil rights era too.

Religious Left Gears Up to Fight Back
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606Z.shtml
With a faith-based agenda of their own, liberal and progressive clergy from various denominations are lobbying lawmakers, holding rallies and publicizing their positions. They want to end the Iraq war, ease global warming, combat poverty, raise the minimum wage, revamp immigration laws, and prevent "immoral" cuts in federal social programs.

monkey said:

Dobbs: Why is the president ignoring our laws?
Bush, feds flout the Constitution by finding ways around laws

By Lou Dobbs
CNN

Wednesday, July 26, 2006

NEW YORK (CNN) -- With upraised right hand and left hand on the Bible, each of our presidents, from George Washington to George W. Bush, has solemnly sworn to "preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States.

The American Bar Association claims President Bush has violated that oath by issuing hundreds of "signing statements" to disregard selected provisions of the laws that Congress passed and he signed.

A bipartisan, 11-member panel of the ABA found that President Bush is not only disregarding laws but using such signing statements far more than any president in history. In fact, Bush has used signing statements to raise constitutional objections to more than 800 provisions in more than 100 laws. All of the presidents combined before 2001 had issued only 600.

The ABA asserts that signing statements cannot be a substitute for a presidential veto and that such an assertion of presidential power amounts to a line-item veto, which the Supreme Court already has ruled unconstitutional.

The matter will likely be resolved in court. But it stands as a metaphor for a 21st century America that is no longer secure in the claim to be a nation of laws.

more...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dobbs.july26/index.html

monkey said:

Everything about war and killing must be "sustainable" to these people, and yet they keep talking about a "lasting peace".

Say something once, why say it again?
Psycho Killer, Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa

sparrow said:

Everything about war and killing must be "sustainable" to these people, and yet they keep talking about a "lasting peace".


Posted by: monkey at July 26, 2006 10:28 AM

Orwellian!

monkey said:

Posted by: sparrow at July 26, 2006 10:57 AM

... and Americans response?

Oh Wellian.

monkey said:

Clinton, Schumer 'may back Bolton'... Developing...

DiAnne said:

Yes

(Center for American Progress)

Sens. Charles Schumer (D-NY) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY) are "seriously reconsidering" their opposition to U.N. Ambassador John Bolton, according to a New York Sun report. "I think there's a reasonable chance they might support him this time around," said Zionist Organization of America president Morton Klein.

monkey said:

Posted by: DiAnne at July 26, 2006 11:48 AM

With friends like that, who needs enemas?

monkey said:

GOP will not support restriction on Bush signing statements

RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday July 26, 2006

Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) has been unsuccessful in lining up Republican support in his efforts to challenge the White House on President Bush's use of "signing statements," today's edition of Congressional Quarterly's Congress Today is reporting.

more...
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/GOP_will_not_upport_restriction_on_0726.html

THE GOP: WEAK ON CRIME, STRONG ON COMMITTING THEM!

battlebob said:

What really got the civil rights and VN peace efforts moving was the union of religious and social supporters.
Social issues became religious issues and vice-versa.
There is a strong religious anti-war, anti-poverty; anti- force out there. There are strong social movements addressing the same issues. Many of us are in both camps. Many are in one camp or the other.
Were any religious spokespeople at the event this topic is based on?
We will do better if the religious community is involved.
Having gone thought this in the above issues during the ‘60s, I saw first hand the benefits of uniting the social and religious movements. We do not need to turn our activity into revival meetings but we will weaken the right-wing nutcase position if religious and social interests are merged; even if it is loosely united.
This allows us –as-an example - to move the right wing issue of abortion to a higher plane where the goal is to prevent unwanted pregnancies. This is a more moral and family-centric position.
Wallis talks about this topic a great deal and is important to understand the strength of our united power..

DiAnne said:

URGENT:
Support Kucinich Effort for Immediate Cease Fire in Lebanon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Please support Representative Dennis Kucinich's H. Con Res. 450 calling upon the President to appeal to all sides in the current crisis in the Middle East for an immediate cessation of violence and to commit United States diplomats to multi-party negotiations with no preconditions. He will be presenting the resolution TODAY.

As the U.S. expedites shipments of bombs to Israel and Condoleeza Rice and George Bush make reluctant and conditional calls for a cease fire they confirm suspicions that the U.S. is involved in a war by proxy. It is therefore essential that we speak up strongly for peace in the Middle East today.

Please tell your Representative: STOP THE VIOLENCE! NO WAR BY PROXY! IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE NOW! SUPPORT H. Con. Res. 450!

For a copy of the resolution see: http://www.truthdig.com/images/reportuploads/KUCINI_090_xml.pdf

Backbone Campaign

To send an email to your Representative use this action tool provided by our friends at Progressive Democrats of America: http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/issues/alert/?alertid=8919726&type=CO
Spine Fax: Click here to download faxable form.
Visit vote-smart.org to look up phone and fax numbers.
Call your member of Congress using these toll-free numbers: 888-355-3588 or 800-828-0498

Other resources:
The People's Email Network action page: http://www.usalone.com/stacey/pnum426.php

If you wish to do more, visit Tikkun and support Rabbi Lerner's effort to call for peace in papers around the world. Go to: http://www.tikkun.org/rabbi_lerner/news_item.2006-07-25.1817694454
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I'll be surprised if this goes anywhere.
It's as if alot of people don't really care.

monkey said:

Rape victim denied morning after pill by PA hospital

RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday July 26, 2006

"A Good Samaritan Hospital emergency room doctor refused to give a rape victim a morning-after pill because he said it was against his Mennonite religion," the (registration-restricted) PennLive.com reported late Tuesday. Excerpts:

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Rebuffed by the doctor, the woman called her gynecologist, who wrote the prescription. Her local pharmacy told her it was out of the drug and referred her to a sister store in Reading.

The former medical director of the hospital said he sees nothing strange about asking a woman from eastern Lebanon County to drive to Reading for a drug.

"People drive to Reading to buy jeans. Even if that were the case, that you had to drive to Reading to get this [prescription], to me that does not rise to a compulsion that you have to pass laws that [doctors] have to do something," Dr. Joe Kearns said.

The state backs his refusal, PENNLIVE reports.

Hospitals are not required to prescribe emergency contraception pills, and the state does not keep statistics on how many do, said Richard McGarvey, spokesman for the state Health Department. Kearns said a doctor has rights, too.

"The question is, if you are a physician, do you have to provide services to patients that you think are heinous? And the answer is in this country [is] no, you don't," Kearns said.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Rape_victim_denied_morning_after_pill_0726.html

Suz said:

Good news!

I just heard back from the Episcopalian Diocese and the sign will be removed asap AND she's writing a letter to the newspapers and explaining that it was not an endorsement of Joe Schwartz.

karen said:

Medea Benjamin arrested for disrupting Iraqi Prime Minister¹s Congressional address

Fasting co-founder of CODEPINK and Global Exchange says Iraqis want war to end

WASHINGTON, DC‹This morning, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki addressed a joint session of Congress. During a segment of his speech in which al-Maliki said that Iraqi¹s ink-stained fingers evidenced their desire for democracy, Medea Benjamin, cofounder of CODEPINK: Women for Peace and Global Exchange, stood up from the gallery and shouted, ³Iraqis want the troops to leave, bring them home now! Listen to the Iraqis!² Benjamin repeated the statement several times before she was forcefully lifted from her seat, handcuffed, and escorted out by Capitol police. Benjamin was wearing a pink shirt with the statement ³Troops Home Now² written on it.

Benjamin, 54, of San Francisco, CA, is currently on her 23rd day of a long-term fast for peace called the Troops Home FAST (www.troopshomefast.org). She is charged with disrupting Congress. Whether Benjamin will receive a simple citation or will be booked at jail is still being determined by Capitol police.

This disruption follows two days of requests for a meeting with Prime Minister al-Maliki. Since al-Maliki¹s arrival in Washington DC, women and men who are fasting for peace as part of CODEPINK¹s Troops Home FAST have been trying to arrange a meeting with the prime minister and the Iraqi Embassy. Fasters have been waiting for a response to a letter requesting a meeting with the Prime Minister to discuss an Iraqi reconciliation plan that includes a timetable for the withdrawal of the U.S. troops from Iraq. Benjamin stood outside the Iraqi embassy for the past two days waiting for a response to this letter.

Yesterday evening, fasters were ordered by police to clear the sidewalk in front of the embassy in preparation for al-Maliki¹s arrival. Five fasters refused to leave, thus risking arrest. The Iraqi Ambassador spoke with Benjamin by cell phone and asked that she and the fasters move aside, in exchange for the possibility that she and peace mom Cindy Sheehan would get a personal audience with al-Maliki during the evening reception. Sheehan and Benjamin also agreed to break their fast if granted a meeting with the Prime Minister. He promised to call should any challenges arise and this not be possible. However, Benjamin was denied entry to the embassy that evening, and waited for an hour outside, where she watched the prime minister arrive and leave without acknowledgement of their agreement.

After witnessing Benjamin¹s disruption, Maxine Waters, member of Congress and chair of the Out of Iraq Caucus, stated, ³We are going to witness more and more public outrage as the violence in Iraq escalates in this ongoing occupation.²

Benjamin¹s public statement is in line with recent polls from Iraq saying that only 1% of Iraqis trust U.S. forces with their security. Despite these numbers, Prime Minister al-Maliki is in Washington to request additional U.S. troops in Baghdad. Also in opposition to public opinion in both Iraq and in the U.S., the Bush administration has rejected and gutted the peace plan proposed by the Iraqi government.

Iraqi blogger and analyst Raed Jarrar of Global Exchange and Foreign Policy in Focus, who is also participating in the Troops Home FAST, said, ³Medea Benjamin is speaking on behalf of the overwhelming majority of the Iraqis and the Iraqi Parliament who want the troops out of Iraq.² A recent World Public Poll shows that 87% of Iraqis want a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

Photos and further information are available at www.troopshomefast.org . To view an online version of this press release including a Reuters photo of Medea Benjamin being arrested, please see http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/4082.html or http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=1126

DiAnne said:

Since when has anyone seemed to care what common people think, in Iraqi, Lebanon, Israel, Mexico or oh so many countries, including US.

"Democratic" reforms defined by neocons are by definition suspect, as they usually are in line with supporting the dictator du jour.

"People's movements" are usually disparaged by neocons with some negativity such as "socialist" or worse.

The neocons spout off about "spreading democracy" but they never support actual populist movements.

This world is dwindling down its resources fast and about the only industry left is producing and selling weapons with which to fight over the dwindling resources.

DiAnne said:

I meant Iraq not Iraqi (above)

Posted by: battlebob at July 26, 2006 12:20 PM

I agree wholeheartedly. Been saying that for quite a while. There is a HUGE resource of people out there who feel they are forced into one camp or another (left or right). When, in reality, there is much common ground between the two.

It would serve us well to use the history of the VN years as a model, and repeat it.

Everyone is looking for a leader, BB. You could do it!!

monkey said:

Al-Maliki: Iraq is front line of war on terror

(AP)WASHINGTON - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki insisted Wednesday that his country is a front line in the war on terrorism and said those behind the rampant violence there are perverting the Islamic faith.

Question: Was it the front line of war on terror prior to numbnuts invasion/occupation?

Mission Accompliced

monkey said:

Could U.S. Troops End Up in Lebanon?
Wednesday, July 26, 2006.

By Ken Silverstein

There's much discussion of putting a multinational, NATO-led force in southern Lebanon as part of a ceasefire agreement in the Israel–Lebanon conflict, but Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, according to a story in the Washington Post, has said that she does “not think that it is anticipated that U.S. ground forces . . . are expected for that force.” However, a well-connected former CIA officer has told me that the Bush Administration is in fact considering exactly such a deployment.

The officer, who had broad experience in the Middle East while at the CIA, noted that NATO and European countries, including England, have made clear that they are either unwilling or extremely reluctant to participate in an international force. Given other nations' lack of commitment, any “robust” force—between 10,000 and 30,000 troops, according to estimates being discussed in the media—would by definition require major U.S. participation. According to the former official, Israel and the United States are currently discussing a large American role in exactly such a “multinational” deployment, and some top administration officials, along with senior civilians at the Pentagon, are receptive to the idea.

The uniformed military, however, is ardently opposed to sending American soldiers to the region, according to my source. “They are saying 'What the f-ck?'” he told me. “Most of our combat-ready divisions are in Iraq or Afghanistan, or on their way, or coming back. The generals don't like it because we're already way overstretched.”

more...
http://harpers.org/sb-source-bush-admin-lebanon-1153936109.html

ralpheh said:

My New Discussion Site at Gather.Com!!!

And you're all invited


http://ralphdraw33.gather.com/

About Iraq Peace 2 Discussion: "U.S. Troops (in Iraq) Protect American's Freedom"? I must point out that many Americans, actually most Americans (60%), no longer believe this lie pushed on them by the Bush administration. ... more

Suz said:

Posted by: ralpheh at July 26, 2006 04:37 PM

I thought it was more than 60%, Ralphe.

ralpheh said:

Clinton, Schumer 'may back Bolton'... Developing...

Posted by: monkey at July 26, 2006 11:46 AM

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Hillary (Schumer) have sold their souls the lying, war-mongering NeoCon's - an awful shame.

I CANNOT support Hillary - this is non-starter with me (Bolton symbolizes everything that is wrong with the Bush foreign policy).

ralpheh said:

Posted by: ralpheh at July 26, 2006 04:37 PM

I thought it was more than 60%, Ralphe.

Posted by: Suz at July 26, 2006 04:43 PM

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What is the latest number? 70%? 75%? And Bill Clinton is stupidly stumping for Pro War Joe Lieberman (with Hillary's tacit approval)???

DiAnne said:


US Thwarts Middle East Cease-Fire
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606A.shtml
As the fighting and bombing intensified in Lebanon and Israel, an urgently convened, high-level international conference in Rome concluded in open disagreement, failing to reach accord on a plan to bring a halt to the strife. The European Union has called for an immediate cessation of hostilities, while the United States has not.

Robert Scheer | Labor Pains of a Stillborn Foreign Policy
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606B.shtml
Robert Scheer argues that Condoleezza Rice, in calling the Israel-Lebanon crisis simply the "birth pangs of a new Middle East," underscored the Bush administration's blindness to the disastrous effects its foreign policy has
wrought.

White House Bill Challenges Provision of the Geneva Conventions
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606C.shtml
The White House is challenging the recent Supreme Court decision that the provision of the Geneva Conventions known as Common Article Three applies to detainees. Bush's draft bill asserts that the Geneva Conventions "are not a source of judicially enforceable individual rights," meaning that in the future, terror suspects like Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni held at Guantanamo whose case resulted in the Supreme Court ruling Hamden v. Rumsfeld, cannot file lawsuits saying their Geneva Convention rights were violated.

Bombings Hit Children Hardest
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606D.shtml
Bilal Masri, assistant director of Beirut Government University Hospital, told IPS, "Not only are most of the patients children, but many of the injured have been brought in serious condition. Now we have a 30 percent fatality rate here in Beirut. That means that 30 percent of everyone hit by Israeli bombs are dying. It is a catastrophe."

Tech Trouble in the Voting Booth
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606E.shtml
The National Research Council reports: "Some jurisdictions - and possibly many - may not be well prepared for the arrival of the November 2006 elections with respect to the deployment and use of electronic voting equipment and related technology, and anxiety about this state of affairs among election officials is
evident in a number of jurisdictions."

Justice Department Sues to Block Missouri From Getting Phone Records
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606F.shtml
The federal government sued two members of the Missouri Public Service Commission on Tuesday to stop them from seeking information about customer records that telephone companies may have given to the National Security Agency.

dwahzon said:

There's a well-written diary bringing us non-lawyers uptodate with the Bushco's latest attack on the constitution and flip off of the Supreme Court.


Hamdan not applicable to torture, spying, or... Hamdan

~snip~ You'll recall that two weeks ago we learned that the "administration" denied that Hamdan appliedto the NSA's spying programs, and a bit later, that they denied that Hamdan applied to torture, too.

Today, we learn that Hamdan doesn't apply even to the central holding of Hamdan.

~snip~

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/145232/728

battlebob said:

Ralph
Posted by: ralpheh at July 26, 2006 04:37 PM

I can't get to your site...
My firewall at work says it is a Dating site.
What do you have there? :)

NonnyO said:

White House Bill Challenges Provision of the Geneva Conventions
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606C.shtml

{{{Bu$hCo: Striving to legalize Kangaroo Courts R US....}}}

NonnyO said:

US Thwarts Middle East Cease-Fire
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606A.shtml

Allies Losing Patience With US Terms for Cease-Fire
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606O.shtml

Robert Scheer | Labor Pains of a Stillborn Foreign Policy
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606B.shtml

{{{I still believe that other nations of the world are going to have to step in and do something and shun any and all 'conditions' laid out by CondiSleazy on behalf of her bosses - not even invite US people to meetings, in fact. The US is no longer a reliable nation to broker any peace agreements because the Bu$hCo administration is stalling for undefined "conditions" that I suspect will only benefit the oil corporations of this country and Halliburton and other corporate cronies of the administration. To only take care of private business concerns for wealthy US corporations and/or individuals is not good foreign policy, and not a way to broker a peace agreement anywhere at any time between any warring factions.}}}

NonnyO said:

Justice Department Sues to Block Missouri From Getting Phone Records
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606F.shtml

{This is a separate case from the other one that was dismissed.}

NonnyO said:

BILL MOYERS FOR PRESIDENT
Molly Ivins, AlterNet
Can Moyers win? No, but he can show the Democrats what political courage looks like.
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/39470/

John Nichols | Bill Moyers for President? Absolutely!
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606G.shtml
John Nichols quotes Molly Ivins, "Just get him into the debates. Think about the potential Democratic candidates. Every single one of them needs spine, needs political courage. What Moyers can do is not only show them what it looks like and indeed what it is, but also how people respond to it. I'm damned if I want to go through another presidential primary with everyone trying to figure out who has the best chance to win instead of who's right."

NonnyO said:

William Rivers Pitt | All Fall Down
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606J.shtml
"At a minimum, the predicted Balkanization of Iraq points to nothing more or less than the comprehensive failure of the Bush administration to bring democracy to that nation," writes William Rivers Pitt.

UN Attack Looks Deliberate: Annan
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072606K.shtml
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan today said he was "shocked" at Israel's "apparently deliberate targeting" of a UN post in Lebanon, in which up to four UN observers were killed.
{{{Three stories on this link.}}}

NonnyO said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2281123.html
Oil wealth causes angst for Norway

I hope no one shows Bu$h or Cheney or any of their Criminal Cabal this article - the damned fools would be wanting to wage war on Norway next because of the oil reserves and invent lies to start another war on false pretenses.

Norway takes care of their own people, and we could only be so lucky as to have a government who cares for its people - and future generations of people - as well as the Norwegians do! The maternity and paternity leave alone is enough to make everyone in this nation envious. I admire the Norwegians for taking care of their own so well.

madame defarge said:

NBC/WSJ poll: U.S. pessimism on increase
Doubts about children’s future and concerns about wars weigh heavily

By Mark Murray
Political reporter
NBC News
Updated: 10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - With the congressional midterm elections less than four months away, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that candidates will be facing a public that has grown increasingly pessimistic, as nearly two-thirds don't believe life for their children's generation will be better than it has been for them, and nearly 60 percent are doubtful the Iraq war will come to a successful conclusion.

In addition, only 27 percent think the country is headed in the right direction, while just 34 percent approve of the president's handling of Iraq. Fifty-eight percent say they are less confident the Iraq war will come to a successful conclusion.

And there's more pessimism: Among those who believe that the nation is headed on the wrong track, a whopping 81 percent say it's part of a longer-term decline and that things won't get better for a while. Just 12 percent think the problems are short-term blips.

And 65 percent say they feel less confident that life for their children's generation will be better than it was for them. In December 2001, the last time this question was asked, respondents — by a 49-42 percent margin — said they were confident life would be better for their children.

Read the rest at ==> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14044391/

madame defarge said:

This one's for monkey...(and other musicians in the Bible Belt)

Music Row Democrats: New Blog and New Music
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/191422/912

In the 2004 election, the only TV ad supporting John Kerry that ran in the Bible Belt was run by the Music Row Democrats.
--snip--
Earlier this summer we met with Howard Dean to discuss coordinating with his 50 state strategy. He believes strongly that the South is essential to restoring the Democratic party to the majority. Some believe we should abandon the South and pool our resources in safety zones. This is both bad for the Democrats, and bad for the country.

It is also a failed strategy.

So we have launched a new campaign, a new community blog and a new fundraising drive so we can run ads in the South this season.

--snip--
As in 2004, our media campaign is a grassroots operation. MRD is a PAC that depends on contributions to get our ads on television. Think of it like a redneck Moveon.org. So to help drive donations, we have put together a collection of songs that are available to download with a $20 contribution.

These songs all have a progressive theme and they are performed by some of the best writers and artists around - including Nanci Griffith, The Mavericks, Todd Snider and others.

You can listen to the songs for free by going to http://www.musicrowdemocrats.com and clicking on the "Listen now" button.

--snip--
Thanks for reading and here's a free song from Grammy award winning artists Raul Malo and the Mavericks:
http://musicrowdemocrats.com/music/i_want_to_know.mp3

DiAnne said:

No excuse (like when we bombed the Chinese Embassy)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5216230.stm

How the UN Post in Lebanon was Bombed

Somehow I wonder if Bolton identifies with the UN at all.

madame defarge said:

And this one's for Ally...

From Ally McBeal to ...... Ann Coulter?
Well, probably not. But Calista Flockhart, formally of All McBeal, will be playing a conservative pundit on a new ABC series debuting this fall.
--snip--
Asked to describe the pundit, producer Ken Olin (formerly a star of "Thirty Something') said, "She's not Ann Coulter. She's not insane."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/203232/383

DiAnne said:

Iraqi Leader's Comments Roil NY Lawmakers

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--iraq-israel0726jul26,0,6083595.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

I'd like to know what in the hell they expected when they (eg Hillary Clinton) voted for the IWR, which even if it didn't authorize war directly, certainly didn't censure Bush for plunging ahead.

Did they really think they'd overthrow Saddam and NOT end up with a Shiite-emphasis government? What were they thinking - that the borders between Iraq, Syria & Iran weren't porous & that people didn't have friends & relatives in that country? That even though the Shiites were a majority, they wouldn't surge into control once Saddam was gone?

Iran democratically elected Mosadeque and we let Shah Reza Pahlavi terrorize the people til they overthrew him & in the vacuum, they ended up with the equally terrible Khomeini?!!

How does a country that can't deal with a hurricane or occupy a country without chaos expect to join forces with a country that can't avoid hitting a UN compound with a precision weapon and smoothly come up with a lasting peace? I don't get it.

Munitions manufactures are a much bigger Israel lobby than even AIPAC. The military industrial complex is alive and well and has tentacles.

Is it any wonder that now the North Korean foreign minister is headed to Malaysia? Is it any wonder that Chavez is linking up with Belarus & buying fighter jets from Russia?

If we are headed toward WW3, I think we all know some neocons (in a handful of countries with "special interests") who wanted it that way all along.

DiAnne said:

I like this.

The Rapture Will Not Be Televised
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/7/26/20227/1640

Posted by: madame defarge at July 26, 2006 08:42 PM

I know of that show, madame. Thanks for sharing.

I've been toying with the nickname "Ally McRepuke" to mark the occasion. :)

Calista fans swear that she's left of center though, just like her man Harrison Ford!

Cyrano said:

Posted by: DiAnne at July 26, 2006 08:48 PM

Maybe they too thought they were getting Curveball or Chalabi.

I heard Congressman Elliot Engel on either CNBC or CNN this afternoon. He was seriously arguing that the US should not be seen as an even-handed broker in the region, but instead be siding openly with Israel. I regret that I am unable to vote against Congressman Engel since I live in a another district.

Posted by: Cyrano at July 26, 2006 09:26 PM

At least he is honest about it. Yes, the US is openly pro-Israel.

But for the wrong reasons, I must say. The US supports Israel for Christian reasons, the Jews be damned.

madame defarge said:

For those tracking congressional races in the Midwest, this diary might put a smile on your face...

The GOP's Complete Midwest Collapse

Until a week or so ago, I thought that the GOP would hold on to the Congress because even though I believed we would do well in the Northeast and West, we were underperforming in the Midwest. My perception of that changed completely this week. That is no longer the situation. Out in the heartland, its becoming an absolute massacre for the GOP-there simply is no good news to be found for them anymore. The data points here support no other logical conclusion. I'm not so sure where the bottom dropped out for them, but $3 gas has strained an already bad local economy in some of these places. There are big time corruption and scandal problems in Ohio and Kentucky aiding us, and Matt Blunt seems like he's heading that way in Missouri. Add to that the GOP's national woes, and is no longer merely a situation where the wind is at our backs-its a full scale blowout.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/205121/944

Suz said:

Posted by: madame defarge at July 26, 2006 09:49 PM

Thanks for all those links. Still listening to the music you posted.

dwahzon said:

Posted by: madame defarge at July 26, 2006 09:49 PM

Thanks for pointing that one out. I've been busy today and didn't see it. It does make me smile!

madame defarge said:

OK, one more from me today...

Check out this really cool set of dynamic relationship maps for the Middle East. One is a self-organizing network model of the Mideast showing both attracting and repelling forces between various players. The other reflects the geographic connections in the region.

http://orgnet.com/mideast.html

dwahzon said:

I'm not going to try to explain this one but bookmark this one and put it at the very top of your "To Do" list for tomorrow.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/21135/2775

DiAnne said:

Ally
I believe the US / Israel relationship is supported by weapons maker lobbyists.

Also, I don't know where to file this, but Hezbollah bodies are kept on ice as potential future bargaining chips.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0,,1830610,00.html

I listened