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I had lunch yesterday with a former student; the one who used to taunt me in class with the liberal pantywaist nom. By the end of his time with me, Aaron had signs of turning towards the light, but held fast onto what he knew best: fundamentalist thinking.

He had interned at the Heritage Foundation and argued against federal spending for education, going so far as to note that it was not fair for people to pay for the educational shortcomings of urban schools. He belonged to a Christian fundamentalist church and struggled with their view of homosexuality. A very bright, sweet soul, he spoke to me of his quest for truth.

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I reminded him of this quote:

“The best thing for being sad,” replied Merlin, beginning to puff and blow, “is to learn something. That’s the only thing that never fails. You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at night listening to the disorder of your veins, you may miss your only love, you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics, or know your honour trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for it then—to learn. Learn why the world wags and what wags it. That is the only thing which the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be tortured by, never fear or distrust, and never dream of regretting. Learning is the only thing for you. Look what a lot of things there are to learn.” —T.H. White, The Once and Future King

There is something wonderful about watching someone begin to open their eyes and think newly. In fact, Howard Gardner defines fundamentalism as "the commitment to not change one's mind." In the classroom, in action, writing on blogs and thinking about what someone else has written: this changes minds. It is a kind of alchemy.

Aaron's life took some turns on the day he began to speak to legislators about the value of the arts: he described the expansion of mind, body, and spirit that the arts foster; he spoke to powerful people, and he began to question his own long-held beliefs.

Gardner describes seven "levers" for changing minds:

1. Reason

2. Research

3. Resonance

4. Representational Redescriptions

5. Resources and Rewards

6. Real World Events

7. Resistances

Over the past few years, Aaron's mind has been *leveraged* and opened by most of these. But the nicest part of our lunch yesterday was discussing politics and the Iraq War. He tested out some old beliefs on me, sharing things he had read in the mainstream media, such as the myth that the money for the war was only 3% of the budget. I pointed out that 3% was still a great deal of money, but that, in fact, we don't KNOW how much we are spending on the war because there have been so many emergency bills and hidden costs. (See this for more information.) He mentioned that the soldiers nowadays are better educated and better equipped than ever before. I responded that yes, they were better educated, because so many of them were older husbands and fathers who had been in the National Guard and returned to Iraq over and over. I asked him if he knew what "better equipped" meant--what was the comparison to? Certainly they are better equipped than they were at the beginning of the invasion, but that is because the government was shamed into shielding them better.

At the end of the lunch, he told me he had re-registered as an Independent and had voted for Democrats this last election. He is going to come and speak to the students attending this year's Arts Advocacy Days and will help shepherd them around. He will, I know, encourage them to question their beliefs, and to find their own voices, passion, and illumination.

I am proud of him, not because he switched allegiances, or because he listened to me. I am proud of how he allowed himself to open up, to look, and listen, and to ponder, to shift perspectives, to observe with wide eyes, and to engage with the novel, the innovative, and the truth with doubt and hope.

In short, he learned. And the world is his classroom now.

106 Comments

aimzzz said:

Bottom line for brains... use it or lose it. Crude, but true ;)

aimzzz said:

Maybe I should use mine... subject should be singular:
Bottom line for the brain... use it or lose it. Crude, but true
:p

aimzzz said:

As Republicans departed Capitol Hill this weekend, some who used to dismiss Democratic attempts to investigate the administration as political posturing are now lining up behind calls for greater oversight of the executive branch.

~snip~

...on other issues [besides Iraq] that will confront the new Congress in January — including trade and judicial appointments — Republican lawmakers have signaled an unwillingness to follow the White House.

~snip~

...Republican disaffection marks a remarkable turnabout for a president whose command of his party was once so supreme he virtually appointed the Senate majority leader and GOP lawmakers openly acknowledged taking orders from the White House...

~snip~

Already, GOP lawmakers are signaling their eagerness to join in the kind of congressional investigation that Democrats promised on the campaign trail this fall.

Last week, Republicans scrambled to express support for expanding the power of an independent agency to monitor spending on Iraq reconstruction, a move that House Republicans had quashed in an appropriations committee earlier this year.

On other issues too there were signs of dissent last week. Many GOP lawmakers bucked the White House over trade deals with Vietnam and Haiti, forcing a flurry of last-minute parliamentary maneuvering to get the agreements through Congress.

As the congressional session drew to a close, the president also couldn't get a hearing for a raft of conservative judges he renominated for positions on the federal bench.
~~~~~~~~~
GOP alienation marks turnabout for Bush
LA Times: http://tinyurl.com/yhbdjr

aimzzz said:

Impressive:

Global warming, local initiatives
Unhappy with federal resistance to world standards, communities are curbing their energy use and emissions.
LA Times: http://tinyurl.com/yf3za9

Frustrated with the federal response to global warming, hundreds of cities, suburbs and rural communities across the nation have taken bold steps to slash their energy consumption and reduce emissions of the pollutants that cause climate change.

~snip~

Cities not typically associated with liberal causes have also jumped on board. In Fargo, N.D., Mayor Dennis Walaker swapped out every traffic-light bulb for a light-emitting diode, or LED, which uses 80% less energy. In Carmel, Ind., a suburb of Indianapolis, Mayor James Brainard is switching the entire city fleet to hybrids and vehicles that run on biofuels (made from plant products rather than petroleum).

"It's quite incredible, the number of things cities are beginning to do. It's very heartening," said Tom Kelly, who directs a national environmental group called Kyoto USA.

aimzzz said:

This piece is interesting because it lists fiscal options Dems can use to pay for proposed programs. Something I would add to the list is cutting unnecessary programs from military-- I'm talking about especially stupid pork like "mini-nukes".
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Democrats have plans, but they'll need to pay
The spending initiatives being envisioned for the next Congress are on a collision course with high budget deficits.
LA Times: http://tinyurl.com/yxnvfz

aimzzz said:

Where is everybody-- I'm hogging the place this evening...

Matthew Carnicelli said:

December 10, 2006
Nobel Winner Warns of Dangers of Globalization
By WALTER GIBBS

OSLO, Dec. 10 — The Bangladeshi banker Muhammad Yunus, who invented the practice of making small, unsecured loans to the poor, warned today that the globalized economy was becoming a dangerous “free-for-all highway.”

“Its lanes will be taken over by the giant trucks from powerful economies,” Dr. Yunus said during a lavish ceremony at which he was awarded the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize. “Bangladeshi rickshaws will be thrown off the highway.”

While international companies motivated by profit may be crucial in addressing global poverty, he said, nations must also cultivate grassroots enterprises and the human impulse to do good.

Challenging economic theories that he learned as a Ph.D. student at Vanderbilt University, in Nashville in the 1970s, he said glorification of the entrepreneurial spirit has led to “one-dimensional human beings” motivated only by profit.

Dr. Yunus, 66, then took a direct jibe at the United States for its war on terror, telling about 1,000 dignitaries at Oslo’s City Hall that recent American military campaigns in Iraq and elsewhere had diverted global resources and attention from a more pressing project: halving worldwide poverty by 2015, as envisaged by the United Nations six years ago.

- more -

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/world/10cnd-nobel.html

DiAnne said:

Karen
Great to read!

Nice to see a quote from Merlin. I only had a little acting experience during school - I was Queen Morgan Le Fay in "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court."

Well today I was an extra in "Battle of Seattle" - I was working out of town in 1999 when the WTO protests happened and I did get back in time to do some photography of the aftermath. Filming took place in November in Vancouver BC and for the last couple of days here in Seattle.

Check this out!

http://www.battleinseattlemovie.com/
http://www.seattlest.com/archives/2006/12/07/battle_in_seattle_extras_needed.php

DiAnne said:

I just received this from a Republican:


http://www.judicialwatch.org/iraqi-oil-maps.shtml .... Attached are the plans by VICE PREZ DICK CHENEY and His Energy Task Force [ remember that BS?] in the SPRING of 2001 to take over the Iraqi Oil Fields .....2001 !!

Christy said:

U.S. Imprisons More People Than Any Other Nation

By James Vicini, Reuters

WASHINGTON (Dec. 9) -- Tough sentencing laws, record numbers of drug offenders and high crime rates have contributed to the United States having the largest prison population and the highest rate of incarceration in the world, according to criminal justice experts.

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/us-imprisons-more-people-than-any-other/20061209111509990004?ncid=NWS00010000000001


So we ARE number one!

Yay I guess.

NonnyO said:

Great White quote, Karen! :-) I have the book.

I also subscribe to the philosophy behind the quote. My cure-all for everything is knowledge!

Sometimes I change my mind with increased knowledge. Sometimes additional knowledge told from a different perspective only reinforces the ethics and moral standards I grew up with. If I think I've maxed out on something for the time being, I turn to new subjects and embark on a new adventure of learning (which makes my personal library larger). With the great addition of a computer and the internet, knowledge is just a couple of clicks away (saves time and hassles and additional money for more books or trips to the library). Sometimes (as with info about neoCons) I don't much like the knowledge I have, but to paraphrase an old quote (author's name not remembered this second), 'to slay dragons, one must first learn their habits.'

Ultimately, all knowledge is good....

Christy said:

Talks under way to replace Iraq PM

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Major partners in Iraq's governing coalition are in behind-the-scenes talks to oust Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki amid discontent over his failure to quell raging violence, according to lawmakers involved.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061210/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_politics

Christy said:

"To show you how important this one is, I read it."

President Bush, on the blockbuster Baker-Hamilton report that called for major changes in Iraq policy

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/washingtonwhispers/061210/outloud_2.htm

karen said:

Hi All,

Several DCPers are in Boston this weekend for a gathering with some DU folks and a thank you party for a certain Senator (as Otter likes to say). We wish all of you could be here too because the conversations are--so far--as good as anything on this blog and much along the same lines.

Tonight several of us did something very special: we went to the Old South Meeting House and participated in a reenactment of the meeting prior to the Boston Tea Party. At the original, which was 233 years ago today, 5,000 people jammed into the hall--climbing through windows, we were told--and argued out the pros and cons of keeping the tea, sending it back to England, or doing something else...

Each of us received a role we could play and after the politicos argued their points, anyone could come forward and state their opinion. Suz read a plea from a teacher to "make tea, not war" and was booed. Clearly the room was full of radical revolutionaries, crying out for King George's demise!

It was blogging, 18th century style. I was touched by the notion of early experiments in democracy being so full of passion and oratory. I turned to Dick and said "Look! It's a democracy cell!"

And truly, it was another reminder of why we do what we do, speaking truth to power. The more truth, the better.

Boston's version of democracy was rowdier than that of Philadelphia (in fact, when a young man got up tonight and read a piece about honoring the King and stating "We are all Englishmen here", he was told "Go back to Philadelphia!"), but then communities are different and tolerate vastly different styles. It was fun to remember the sheer amount of tolerance for disparate views and rollicking yelling matches that birthed this country. It is, in my opinion, a GREAT legacy.

Party on, cellcompadres! We carry you with us, as always.

DiAnne said:

That is pretty cool, Karen!

I'm listening to the violinist Pinchas Zukerman- haven't heard this in a long time.

Well I went to Walgreens - when I went to pay, the card scanner didn't function til the 4th trial.

"They need to come and adjust it, or it registers for the button next to the one you're touching."

My ears perked up.

"You mean like the voting machines?" I asked - "only those they can set purposely that way.:

:"So you mean you could vote for someone and it would register for a different person?:

"Well yeah" I said " that's how Bush got in this time."

(The line behind me got longer)

"The guy who makes the machines also produces ATMs and scanners and he's a friend of the Bush family. & then the first time, he got in because his dad had a friend on the Supreme Court."

DiAnne said:

Wow I'd been thinking John's birthday was coming up but had gotten distracted so just sent off wishes. Would have loved to have been in Boston. Sounds great!

NonnyO said:

Cindy Sheehan on Trial for Protest at UN Mission
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121006Y.shtml
It started as a tiny act of protest. Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq who had held a vigil near President Bush's ranch, and a group of women wanted to submit a petition to the United States Mission to the United Nations in Manhattan, demanding an end to the war. But Ms. Sheehan and three other women were handcuffed, arrested and jailed overnight. Now their misdemeanor trial in Manhattan Criminal Court has turned into a look at the use - and they say abuse - of police power, in the face of an antiwar protest.
{{{Video included at top of web page. In the printed story, Kerry's sister doesn't come off well (IMHO). She was going to meet with the people who had the petition until she found out Sheehan was one of them.}}}

Sandra Day O'Connor: “My Life as a Buck-Passing Phony”
By Mike Whitney
When the final text is written, the name of Sandra Day O’ Connor will feature quite prominently right next to Rasputin, Pol Pot, Henry Kissinger, Pinochet and the other scoundrels who litter the history books.
http://tinyurl.com/uudb4

NonnyO said:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4430459531638940044&q=George+Carlin

George Carlin, One hour, plus a few minutes, HBO show. [Caveat: f-word and other profanity.] I happen to appreciate his edgy comedy/truth, but I realize he's not for everyone.

DiAnne said:

Excerpts from the Sermon at http://www.thepremise.com

It’s been interesting, if at times infuriating, watching George Bush be given chance after chance to bounce back from one debacle after another, while Democrats like John Kerry and Al Gore have been treated like buffoons for no other reason than that they lost an election. (snip)

A month and a half ago I wrote:
Winning ugly is still a win in this country. Cheating and winning is still a win. Stealing a win is still a win. And that’s the real culture of corruption in America.
(snip)
Bill Clinton won in 1992. That was a bit of a surprise. Two years later, Newt Gingrich and a trash-talking group of Republican Congressmen overthrew forty years of Democratic rule in the House. Compared with Bill Clinton’s win, that was a mind-blowing sea change in American politics.

In the resulting political playoffs, with Mr. Gingrich and his henchmen attacking the Clinton White House on an almost daily basis, and with Bush’s saved-by-the-Supreme-Court victory in 2000, the Republican Party took on the mantle of champions. And up until a month ago they played that part to the hilt. But now that’s over, as a slew of recent news stories suggests. Much to their horror, Republicans are the new losers.
(snip)
Bill Frist is the new Tom Daschle.

From a gossip column at U.S. News:
It’s an ugly rumor, but it’s spreading like wildfire: Karl Rove has lost his touch.
(snip)
The Senate and House just went into recess, and lo and behold we’re hit with story after story about how the Republicans are falling apart, bitter, confused, and above all — losers.

And that’s my new wisdom on conventional wisdom in politics. Everything you see, read and hear in the media about one party or another, or one candidate or another, is filtered through the simplest of political concepts. Who won, and who lost? All of the rest of it, the analysis, the theories, the historical precedents, is reportorial hype, spin and ego.

If you win, you’re in with the media. If you lose, they’re going to treat you like dirt.

That’s it.

– Mark Barrett

NonnyO said:

Posted by: karen at December 10, 2006 11:12 PM

More amazing yet: In a day and age without instant communication or telephones, they GOT SOMETHING DONE in a relatively short amount of time!!!

That's more than I can say for our Congress Critters in the last six years who have failed so miserably at stopping the frat-boy-dictator-king Georgie who has wrought so much death and mayhem and destruction to so many with his lies and his lies to cover the original lies....

DiAnne said:

Reading the news makes me have so much vicarious outrage in addition to my own!

- We are pissed because Bush had two bloodless coups to power and then has gotten off scot free for humanitarian crimes but how would you feel if you watched Pinochet die without ever having been tried?! That is outrageous beyond belief.

- Then I read that Hezbollah supporters are in the streets in large numbers, wanting the head of Lebanon government to step down. There are 800,000 of them. Well that sounds like a lot. Well considering the country only has 4 million people it is a hell of alot! They are Shiites and aligned with much of Iran.

- Then I read that Talabani does not like the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group. Why? We're not letting them train and control the destiny of their own Army. Then here comes Rumsfeld and he's saying that we have to prevent future 9/11s.

There is it again - THE LINK. THE LINK between Al Quaida and Iraq. THE FALSE LINK. THE LIE.

Wasn't it just this morning that someone sent me that data from Judicial Watch showing that Cheney ordered info about the oil fields and procedures for getting contracts in Iraq .. in 2001??!
2001!!

Of course they would want there to be a LINK between 9/11 and Iraq. But they wanted Iraq's oil before 9/11 even happened?!!

The dollar is sinking. Asia pulls out and world depression. Is it any wonder my former Republican friends are headed up to Nova Scotia tonight to become Canadians? They spent all weekend preparing their Landing List and they said I just would not believe the length of the list of Landed Immigrants.

Zogby polled me yesterday. He asked if I favored impeachment. Then he asked whether we'd planned to leave the country, the probability and particulars.

NonnyO said:

Posted by: DiAnne at December 10, 2006 11:52 PM

Whatever will Lamestream Media do now?

In the few minutes of talking heads shows I've watched in the last month, I heard a lot of 'oh, poor pitiful neoCons, they got an @$$-whuppin' from the big bad Dems!'

I'm assuming the next two years will be more of the same, neoCons saying how badly the Dems are doing (few Dems of any common sense will be interviewed, I'm guessing)... and they might be right if the Dems continue to pass legislation that only makes Georgie and his corporate cronies richer and more powerful through more bad legislation, especially if they continue Georgie's stupid war in Iraq, the puppet government they've set up there, and seem to be ready to change to a new puppet again.

Dems will have to prove themselves now, and do so in record time (given the glacial speed they do everything except pass bad legislation put forth by Bu$hCo at the speed of falling icebergs from melting glaciers). If the Dems can't pass muster, they'll lose in '08. So far, none have proved they have the same courageous stones of our Founding Fathers.... If the Dems can't DO SOMETHING by March 1, 2007, our votes will have meant nothing.

woz said:

More amazing yet: In a day and age without instant communication or telephones, they GOT SOMETHING DONE in a relatively short amount of time!!!

Posted by: NonnyO at December 10, 2006 11:54 PM

But now we have bugged phones, electronic cheating, invisible possibilities for influencing outcomes and spreading rumour and gossip to keep attention on opponents make big noises so that attention is not on the lawmaker/breaker.

I imagine that without all of the above (plus billions of other opportunities) - simply talking TO and listening TO each other made their achievements possible. What a shame we can't do that. That's why "We do not negotiate with terrorists!" is the most destructive statement Bush has ever made. If you don't learn about your enemies, you'll never identify them, let alone, defeat them.

woz said:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4430459531638940044&q=George+Carlin

George Carlin, One hour, plus a few minutes, HBO show. [Caveat: f-word and other profanity.] I happen to appreciate his edgy comedy/truth, but I realize he's not for everyone.

Posted by: NonnyO at December 10, 2006 11:47 PM

Nonny, I liked his pieces on abortion and religion but was very concerned right at the end of the video when he claimed to not vote. Now, I accept that he's a comedian and maybe he votes - maybe he doesn't. A lot of people respect his views. This was a worry.

NonnyO said:

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/12/a_quiz_for_lawm.html
A Quiz for Lawmakers
Jeff Stein tells us that the rising Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Silvestre Reyes, doesn't know whether Al Qaeda and Hezbollah are predominantly made up of Shiite or Sunni Muslims. Well, the BCIS has decided to revamp the test required of applicants for citizenship. So I think we, the blogosphere, should put together our own new test--fifty questions a legislator should be able to answer correctly before he or she can vote on laws relating to those subjects. I've made a start below. Once we get a bunch I plan to put this into a document and send it to Pelosi and Reid. Hell--at the very least, maybe they can get their legislators to cram for the quiz so they don't sound quite so embarrassing in interviews.

{{{More on link....}}}

NonnyO said:

Posted by: woz at December 11, 2006 03:44 AM

That last bit bothered me, too. I hope he was only saying that as part of a comedy routine!

NonnyO said:

Posted by: woz at December 11, 2006 02:42 AM

DimWit wants everything his way or no way. He has a dictator mentality. If someone doesn't agree with him, approve of all his immoral, unethical, and downright illegal acts, he has a hissy fit, throws temper tantrums a toddler would emulate. "Negotiate" is not in his personal lexicon. He doesn't know how to negotiate.

There's just no accounting for any of his actions until one realizes he has no conscience. Zero. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Not one smidgen of empathy or compassion for anyone or anything. He's totally incapable of normal human emotions and is out for power over others as his sole goal in life, and he doesn't give a particular damn how that power is accomplished, as long as it's accomplished. Chinkster wanted a stronger executive branch (contrary to what's written in the US Constitution) back in the day when he was working for previous administrations. The two together are the epitome of pure evil, one feeding off the other for dictatorial control of this nation... and eventually the world, per PNAC objectives, if they get their way.

Short of being tried for their crimes and put in prison for the rest of their lives, they will just continue to obtain and hold more and more power, and they'll do so by bribery or blackmail "legally" by getting Congress to go along with them and pass laws to make that power "legal" and makes them exempt from being tried for war crimes (like the MCA '06, even though it obliterates the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Geneva Conventions, and US law, and why that entire law needs repealing, not just certain sections)....

That's why I so adamantly favor impeachment. With a foreboding sense of dread, I see the handwriting on the wall, so to speak... but it's in huge flashing neon signs....

NonnyO said:

Talks Under Way to Replace Iraq PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106J.shtml
Major partners in Iraq's governing coalition are in behind-the-scenes talks to oust Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki amid discontent over his failure to quell raging violence. The talks are aimed at forming a new parliamentary bloc that would seek to replace the current government and that would likely exclude supporters of the radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who is a vehement opponent of the US military presence.

Gulf States Announce Nuclear Plan
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106L.shtml
Six oil-rich Gulf nations have said they are considering seeking nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. Officials from Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE also urged a peaceful settlement to the crisis over Iran's nuclear program. The six Arab states said they were exploring the possibility of creating a shared nuclear program.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6210358.stm
5.5m Britons 'opt to live abroad'

DiAnne said:

Even Tom Delay has his own blog now.

DiAnne said:

Hey Hey Ho Ho The WTO Has Got To Go

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/295450_battle11.html

..what I did during my vacation..

DiAnne said:

We can't have Christmas trees at our airport now because a Rabbi demanded a Menorah be put up as well.

Some comments from http://www.seattlepi.com - locals

I'm an athiest and I love Christmas trees... this Rabbi's an arse....
Swanny River

Maybe we can complain that there aren't any christmas trees at Sea Tac.. I Hope you are proud of yourselves stupid scrooges
isisthecat

As I understand it, the rabbi just wanted a menorah up there, too (lighting ceremony, too maybe). Why didn't the Port Authority just do that? Instead, they made a big deal about removing the trees when they didn't have to!
Fr. Rick

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Merry Christmas
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I blame the spineless Port officials. Should have either put up a menorah (nice but not necessary) or told the complainer to get a life.
Mephistopheles

where would they put all the stuff from every organized religion?
Fear of a frivolous lawsuit made the port folks roll over and play dead. I say put the tree back, and if people do not like it, they do not have to look at it.
BeniciaBarista

This is ludicrous. I'm even a little ashamed of my hometown pride for this! A local mall here in Northern CA has both a tree lighting AND a menorah lighting ceremony and they're both lovely. But even the most agnostic of airport-goers can recognize that a Christmas tree is representative of Season's Greetings, not of a religious ethic. If you want to get technical, call in the druids.
SamThornton

Replace the Christmas trees with Yule trees. Case closed.
This time of year, nearly all cultures and religions celebrate some type of holy day. It's the Winter solstice thing. Most religions and cultures miss the exact date a little, but who's perfect? Let everyone put up their favorite totems. As long as they pay and they take out liability insurance, what's the harm?
This year, the Winter solstice occurs on December 22.
tpm

When did a Christmas tree become a religious symbol?
Jim King

Most likely the Central Organization for Jewish Education (not "Learning")- a Lubavitcher outfit.
Maybe their activities on the UW campus should be protested unless they also display the Cross...
Solarfall

As a very liberal Atheist of Jewish heritage...I really don't see what the fuss is about. Why is that rabbi complaining? It's not like Christmas trees have anything to do with Christianity anyway, historically or currently.
On that note, does this mean I have to take down the Christmas tree my wife and I put in our living room? I'm rather fond of the decorations, and I don't think I'm ready to remove them.
AmericanExpress

If the good rabbi is so concerned with balance, here's an idea:
How about (in the name of balance) the USA divide the US taxpayer dollars our special friend Israel receives, by two, giving the other half to the Palestinians.
Then, the Palestinians they could buy the military hardware necessary to participate in the peace process with the same civilized methods so successfully used by the Israelis.
Posted by I-5

christmas trees were never religious. a menorah would have been very religious. the rabbi was completely wrong, and unfortunately the port of seattle got scared of a potential lawsuit. but i have a feeling the trees will be back next year if common sense prevails.
NWmountaineer

I don't care if it's Ralph Reed and the Christian Coalition trying to legislate religion down peoples throats or some Rabbi having 3rd grade immature hissy fit tantrum and demanding all the Christmas trees at the airport be yanked out of the ground.
raindearwoman

Another example of why there will never be "PEACE on Earth", in our WORLD, in our life time, until men and women (of all colours,nations, beliefs and sexual orientations) can give from their hearts "GOOD WILL and GLAD TIDINGS". I am not a Christian.This time of year holds a special meaning to me and my family whether we are Christian,Hindu,Muslim,Jew,Taoist,or Buddhist. With so many more important things going on in the world right now,worrying about a decoration seems to be a very petty thing. I translate "important things" to be : comforting the dying, feeding the starving, putting a smile on the face of a sick and lonely child, greeting returning military personnel, helping little old ladies and men across the airport parking lot.......
didn't get her name but good comment

----Now I don't know what I think because i didn't see the display so have no context. Other than the issue of whether the trees (and there were multiples, not just one - that I saw pictures of) - there is the issue of Christmas being over-represented compared to religious holidays of other religions. I suppose it's because the majority are Christian. It would seem rather oppressive to one of another religion and our family just looks at it as a "Holiday" - time to be together, to get some time off, to get some new stuff, to get rid of some stuff, to brighten up the house a little with lights because the cold and wet is depressing (not to mention short days). I understood that the airport took the trees down because after the Rabbi complained they thought they might also need to put up the symbols for all sorts of religions - why not make it simple and just make the place generic.

mkh said:

great quote Karen!!!!!


and love the idea of the legislators quiz!!!

DiAnne said:

Bolton joked after a private dinner Tuesday night at the White House, which Bush hosted for Annan, that "nobody sang 'Kumbaya.'"

Told of Bolton's comment, Annan laughed and asked: "But does he know how to sing it?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6170089.stm

FULL TEXT OF KOFI ANNAN'S SPEECH

My first lesson is that, in today's world, the security of every one of us is linked to that of everyone else.

That was already true in Truman's time. The man who in 1945 gave the order for nuclear weapons to be used - for the first, and let us hope the only, time in history - understood that security for some could never again be achieved at the price of insecurity for others.

He was determined, as he had told the founding conference of the United Nations in San Francisco, to "prevent, if human mind, heart, and hope can prevent it, the repetition of the disaster [meaning the world war] from which the entire world will suffer for years to come".

He believed strongly that henceforth security must be collective and indivisible.

That was why, for instance, he insisted, when faced with aggression by North Korea against the South in 1950, on bringing the issue to the United Nations and placing US troops under the UN flag, at the head of a multinational force.

But how much more true it is in our open world today: a world where deadly weapons can be obtained not only by rogue states but by extremist groups; a world where Sars or avian flu can be carried across oceans, let alone national borders, in a matter of hours; a world where failed states in the heart of Asia or Africa can become havens for terrorists; a world where even the climate is changing in ways that will affect the lives of everyone on the planet.

Against such threats as these, no nation can make itself secure by seeking supremacy over all others. We all share responsibility for each other's security, and only by working to make each other secure can we hope to achieve lasting security for ourselves.

And I would add that this responsibility is not simply a matter of states being ready to come to each other's aid when attacked - important though that is.

It also includes our shared responsibility to protect populations from genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity - a responsibility solemnly accepted by all nations at last year's UN summit.

That means that respect for national sovereignty can no longer be used as a shield by governments intent on massacring their own people, or as an excuse for the rest of us to do nothing when such heinous crimes are committed.

But, as Truman said, "If we should pay merely lip service to inspiring ideals, and later do violence to simple justice, we would draw down upon us the bitter wrath of generations yet unborn."

And when I look at the murder, rape and starvation to which the people of Darfur are being subjected, I fear that we have not got far beyond "lip service".

The lesson here is that high-sounding doctrines like the "responsibility to protect" will remain pure rhetoric unless and until those with the power to intervene effectively - by exerting political, economic or, in the last resort, military muscle - are prepared to take the lead.

And I believe we have a responsibility not only to our contemporaries but also to future generations - a responsibility to preserve resources that belong to them as well as to us, and without which none of us can survive.

That means we must do much more, and urgently, to prevent or slow down climate change. Every day that we do nothing, or too little, imposes higher costs on our children and our children's children.

Global solidarity

My second lesson is that we are not only all responsible for each other's security. We are also, in some measure, responsible for each other's welfare.

Global solidarity is both necessary and possible. It is necessary because without a measure of solidarity no society can be truly stable, and no one's prosperity truly secure.

That applies to national societies - as all the great industrial democracies learned in the 20th century - but it also applies to the increasingly integrated global market economy we live in today.

It is not realistic to think that some people can go on deriving great benefits from globalization while billions of their fellow human beings are left in abject poverty, or even thrown into it.

We have to give our fellow citizens, not only within each nation but in the global community, at least a chance to share in our prosperity.

That is why, five years ago, the UN Millennium Summit adopted a set of goals - the "Millennium Development Goals" - to be reached by 2015: goals such as halving the proportion of people in the world who do not have clean water to drink; making sure all girls, as well as boys, receive at least primary education; slashing infant and maternal mortality; and stopping the spread of HIV/Aids.

Much of that can only be done by governments and people in the poor countries themselves. But richer countries, too, have a vital role.

Here too, Harry Truman proved himself a pioneer, proposing in his 1949 inaugural address a program of what came to be known as development assistance. And our success in mobilising donor countries to support the Millennium Development Goals, through debt relief and increased foreign aid, convinces me that global solidarity is not only necessary but possible.

Of course, foreign aid by itself is not enough. Today, we realise that market access, fair terms of trade and a non-discriminatory financial system are equally vital to the chances of poor countries.

Even in the next few weeks and months, you Americans can make a crucial difference to many millions of poor people, if you are prepared to save the Doha Round of trade negotiations.

You can do that by putting your broader national interest above that of some powerful sectional lobbies, while challenging Europe and the large developing countries to do the same.

The rule of law

My third lesson is that both security and development ultimately depend on respect for human rights and the rule of law.

Although increasingly interdependent, our world continues to be divided - not only by economic differences, but also by religion and culture.

That is not in itself a problem. Throughout history human life has been enriched by diversity, and different communities have learnt from each other.

But if our different communities are to live together in peace we must stress also what unites us: our common humanity, and our shared belief that human dignity and rights should be protected by law.

That is vital for development, too. Both foreign investors and a country's own citizens are more likely to engage in productive activity when their basic rights are protected and they can be confident of fair treatment under the law.

And policies that genuinely favour economic development are much more likely to be adopted if the people most in need of development can make their voice heard.

In short, human rights and the rule of law are vital to global security and prosperity. As Truman said, "We must, once and for all, prove by our acts conclusively that Right Has Might."

That is why this country has historically been in the vanguard of the global human rights movement. But that lead can only be maintained if America remains true to its principles, including in the struggle against terrorism.

When it appears to abandon its own ideals and objectives, its friends abroad are naturally troubled and confused.

And states need to play by the rules towards each other, as well as towards their own citizens. That can sometimes be inconvenient, but ultimately what matters is not convenience. It is doing the right thing.

No state can make its own actions legitimate in the eyes of others. When power, especially military force, is used, the world will consider it legitimate only when convinced that it is being used for the right purpose - for broadly shared aims - in accordance with broadly accepted norms.

No community anywhere suffers from too much rule of law; many do suffer from too little - and the international community is among them. This we must change.

The US has given the world an example of a democracy in which everyone, including the most powerful, is subject to legal restraint. Its current moment of world supremacy gives it a priceless opportunity to entrench the same principles at the global level.

As Harry Truman said, "We all have to recognise, no matter how great our strength, that we must deny ourselves the licence to do always as we please."

Mutual accountability

My fourth lesson - closely related to the last one - is that governments must be accountable for their actions in the international arena, as well as in the domestic one.

Today the actions of one state can often have a decisive effect on the lives of people in other states.

So does it not owe some account to those other states and their citizens, as well as to its own? I believe it does.

As things stand, accountability between states is highly skewed. Poor and weak states are easily held to account, because they need foreign assistance. But large and powerful states, whose actions have the greatest impact on others, can be constrained only by their own people, working through their domestic institutions.

That gives the people and institutions of such powerful states a special responsibility to take account of global views and interests, as well as national ones.

And today they need to take into account also the views of what, in UN jargon, we call "non-state actors". I mean commercial corporations, charities and pressure groups, labour unions, philanthropic foundations, universities and think tanks - all the myriad forms in which people come together voluntarily to think about, or try to change, the world.

None of these should be allowed to substitute itself for the state, or for the democratic process by which citizens choose their governments and decide policy. But they all have the capacity to influence political processes, on the international as well as the national level.

States that try to ignore this are hiding their heads in the sand.

The fact is that states can no longer - if they ever could - confront global challenges alone. Increasingly, we need to enlist the help of these other actors, both in working out global strategies and in putting those strategies into action once agreed.

It has been one of my guiding principles as Secretary General to get them to help achieve UN aims - for instance through the Global Compact with international business, which I initiated in 1999, or in the worldwide fight against polio, which I hope is now in its final chapter, thanks to a wonderful partnership between the UN family, the US Centers for Disease Control and - crucially - Rotary International.

Multilateralism

So that is four lessons. Let me briefly remind you of them: First, we are all responsible for each other's security. Second, we can and must give everyone the chance to benefit from global prosperity. Third, both security and prosperity depend on human rights and the rule of law. Fourth, states must be accountable to each other, and to a broad range of non-state actors, in their international conduct.

My fifth and final lesson derives inescapably from those other four. We can only do all these things by working together through a multilateral system, and by making the best possible use of the unique instrument bequeathed to us by Harry Truman and his contemporaries, namely the United Nations.

In fact, it is only through multilateral institutions that states can hold each other to account. And that makes it very important to organize those institutions in a fair and democratic way, giving the poor and the weak some influence over the actions of the rich and the strong.

That applies particularly to the international financial institutions, such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. Developing countries should have a stronger voice in these bodies, whose decisions can have almost a life-or-death impact on their fate.

And it also applies to the UN Security Council, whose membership still reflects the reality of 1945, not of today's world.

That is why I have continued to press for Security Council reform. But reform involves two separate issues.

One is that new members should be added, on a permanent or long-term basis, to give greater representation to parts of the world which have limited voice today.

The other, perhaps even more important, is that all Council members, and especially the major powers who are permanent members, must accept the special responsibility that comes with their privilege.

The Security Council is not just another stage on which to act out national interests. It is the management committee, if you will, of our fledgling collective security system.

As President Truman said, "The responsibility of the great states is to serve and not dominate the peoples of the world."

He showed what can be achieved when the US assumes that responsibility. And still today, none of our global institutions can accomplish much when the US remains aloof. But when it is fully engaged, the sky is the limit.

These five lessons can be summed up as five principles, which I believe are essential for the future conduct of international relations: collective responsibility, global solidarity, the rule of law, mutual accountability, and multilateralism.

Let me leave them with you, in solemn trust, as I hand over to a new Secretary General in three weeks' time.

My friends, we have achieved much since 1945, when the United Nations was established.

But much remains to be done to put those five principles into practice.

Standing here, I am reminded of Winston Churchill's last visit to the White House, just before Truman left office in 1953. Churchill recalled their only previous meeting, at the Potsdam conference in 1945.

"I must confess, sir," he said boldly, "I held you in very low regard then. I loathed your taking the place of Franklin Roosevelt." Then he paused for a moment, and continued: "I misjudged you badly. Since that time, you more than any other man, have saved Western civilisation."

My friends, our challenge today is not to save Western civilisation - or Eastern, for that matter. All civilisation is at stake, and we can save it only if all peoples join together in the task.

You Americans did so much, in the last century, to build an effective multilateral system, with the United Nations at its heart.

Do you need it less today, and does it need you less, than 60 years ago? Surely not.

More than ever today Americans, like the rest of humanity, need a functioning global system through which the world's peoples can face global challenges together.

And in order to function, the system still cries out for far-sighted American leadership, in the Truman tradition.

I hope and pray that the American leaders of today, and tomorrow, will provide it. Thank you very much.

Christy said:

I just caught a major bait and switch. Do not have a clue what it means.

The headline I just saw is 'US denies CIA bugged Diana "

It is a catagorical denial from what I see.

But the London paper that broke the story clearly stated the US SECRET SERVICE had already admitted to it.


That is nutty. Something wierd is about to come to light.

Christy said:

Mark Townsend and Peter Allen in Paris
Sunday December 10, 2006
The Observer


The American secret service was bugging Princess Diana's telephone conversations without the approval of the British security services on the night she died, according to the most comprehensive report on her death, to be published this week

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1968664,00.html

US denies CIA bugged Princess Diana's phone calls

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dpa German Press Agency
Published: Monday December 11, 2006

Washington- The United States on Monday denied reports in Britain that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was listening to Princess Diana's phone calls hours before she was killed in a 1997 automobile accident in Paris. "This is an old story for us. It all started when she died in 1997," a US official told Deutsche Presse-Agentur, dpa. "In (19)97 we said were were not involved in any way, we're still standing by that statement."

"What would American intelligence gain from tapping her phone?" the official added. "It's all based on rumours."

http://rawstory.com/news/2006/US_denies_CIA_bugged_Princess_Diana_12112006.html

Man that is freaking weird.

WTF...?

Posted by: DiAnne at December 11, 2006 11:09 AM

Just picked up the news of SEATAC Christmas Tree removal too. It was pretty pathetic, considering that decorating trees is a pagan tradition co-opted by the Christians. I know plenty of non-Christians who do Christmas trees and exchange gifts for Christmas.

But then, Christmas itself is really a pagan holiday that Christians took over - Jesus was NOT born in December.

BTW, I'm back. The election season had left me burned out, and I had to take a hiatus from here.

monkey said:

Intolerance of others on ANY level in the name of ANY religion is not worthy of being followed.

I say, find your heart and you'll find your way.

Sintax

aimzzz said:

DeLay launches new conservative force
links to The Hill: http://tinyurl.com/ymvbqt

Former Republican Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) announced the launch of an Internet-based grassroots organization aimed at raising money and uniting Republican activists to take back and hold the GOP majority in Congress, according to a release today.

The new organization, comparable to the left’s MoveOn.org, is called GAIN (Grassroots, Action, and Information Network) and will be hosted on www.tomdelay.com, a blog that will feature comments from DeLay and other conservative bloggers and activists.

Christy said:

NSA To Deny Bugging Diana's Phone


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/10/world/main2244146.shtml


Curiouser and curiouser.

monkey said:

CNN QuickVote

Do you believe President Bush will be able to successfully shift the course of the war in Iraq?

Yes 18% 18986 votes

No 82% 87197 votes

Total: 106183 votes

DiAnne said:

Ally
Welcome back! I was just about to email you to invite you & say we'd missed you. & by the way, check out my latest 'hood - Republic of Fremont - Center of the Universe. It's not only ceceded from the US but from Seattle. LOL My next 'hood will be Georgetown, where artists have been forced to move because of the gentrification of Pioneer Square. I just gifted myself with a Solstice Observance present of a new camera - Sony H5 - it's awesome! The photos were taken with my old Nikon KoolPix point and shoot, which was trusty but has seen its day.
http://www.silencedmajority.blogs.com

monkey said:

No sugar tonight in my Kofi...

"When power, especially military force, is used, the world will consider it legitimate only when convinced that it is being used for the right purpose, for broadly shared aims, in accordance with broadly accepted norms."

DiAnne said:

1. We imprison more people than any country.
2. We are the biggest arms dealer and sole vote in the UN not to restrict arms trade.
3. We allow cheating.

Electronic voting machines in Florida appear to have flat-out lost 18,000 votes for Congress—votes almost certain to change the outcome of a close House race in Sarasota.

This election meltdown demonstrates the insanity of paperless voting machines. There's no way to recount the votes short of holding a new election. Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi—along with Republican and Democratic leaders—are deciding now if Congress will tolerate this broken election or call for a new one.

The decision could come any day—and once it's made, it's hard to reverse. Can you sign this petition urging Congress to call for a re-vote in Sarasota, Florida and to repair our nation's elections? And then ask your friends and family to do the same.

http://pol.moveon.org/floridaelection/?id=9601-3132966-_45UDcO1MSN0CCBeoXZEYA&t=2

DiAnne said:

Well Carter's book on the mideast (Israel/Palestine) is supposed to be "provocative" - I think that could be a good thing. It may get some folks to thinking about the issue.

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=6605934

I noticed that 3 of 5 court commissioners who are about to meet favor putting the Christmas trees back up at the airport, and the fairly conservative Jewish group that has the Rabbi who protested the trees' presence deciding not to sue. They do not want to be seen as Grinches.

Newspapers are reporting that Obama's appearance in New Hampshire was very popular, and Kennedy is no longer promising to back Kerry in 2008 unless he hurries up and declares his candidacy.

Thinking about Princess Diana and why either the CIA or NSA would monitor her. She fought against landmines and she was dating a Muslim. Still don't know how that would entitle them to monitor her. The guy who was writing the book isn't going to shed much light on it - heard him on the radio. He's going to say it was just an accident caused by a drunk driver.

Anyone see the Colbert U-Tube video where he said his sperm may have been used to impregnate Mary Cheney .. unless of course it got mixed up with that of David Crosby .. which may or may not have happened.

DiAnne said:

Well so Kucinich is going to run again in 2008. Guess the citizens of the Republic of Fremont won't have to change their bumper stickers - just change the date.

DiAnne said:

Oops! Ohlmert made a gaffe and admitted Israel has nukes.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1809421.htm

Christy said:

America's Shame: Brought Low By a Gang of Cretins


Written by Chris Floyd
Monday, 11 December 2006

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Only Six Fluent in Arabic at U.S. Embassy in Iraq (Reuters)
Among the 1,000 people who work in the U.S. Embassy in Iraq, only 33 are Arabic speakers and only six speak the language fluently, according to the Iraq Study Group report released on Wednesday.
.......

This tells you pretty much all you need to know about the American debacle in Iraq. Imagine the arrogance and stupidity of conquering, occupying and trying to run a country without being able to speak its language. A nation of 26 million people – and your embassy has only six people who can actually understand what is being said, written, and broadcast there. This is a folly that amounts to a monstrous crime in itself, aside from the inherent evil of launching an unprovoked war of aggression.

Evil is the only word to describe the wilful ignorance at work throughout the entire process of the Iraq War, from its inception to its execution to the catastrophic endgame now unfolding before our eyes. The reality of the situation is almost unimaginable, almost unendurable: that the most powerful nation in the history of the world has thrown itself, deliberately, for no compelling reason whatsoever beyond the selfish interests of a few elitist cliques, into a cauldron of mass murder and moral ruin, whose financial, political and spiritual costs will be felt, with deep suffering, for generations.

And that such a fate should come at the hands of such third-rate fools! Not only the gibbering idiot hugging his stolen presidency and "Decider-in-chiefship" to his chest like a baby with a blanket, but the whole rogue's gallery of dullards and brutes whose rat-like cunning in the service of their own lusts for pomp and power has been mistaken for genuine intelligence and substance: Dick Cheney, bumbling factotum of two failed presidencies – Nixon's and Ford's – and now the guiding light of a ruinous third; Don Rumsfeld, corporate bagman and lifelong blowhard (also a minion in the failed Nixon and Ford regimes), who began his career with vicious lies and has ended it with the blood of half a million Iraqi civilians on his lily-white hands; Douglas Feith, the utter nonentity well-described by General Tommy Franks as the "f*cking stupidest guy on the face of the earth," an empty suit who nonetheless had a far greater role in pushing the war and designing its lunatic aftermath than most people realize; Paul Wolfowitz, the comb-licking weirdo whose much-alleged, never-proven "brilliance" has disguised a lifelong record as an apologist for repression and mass murder, from Indonesia to Iraq… and on and on, through the whole sick crew.

To have been brought low by this gang of vicious cretins only adds to the shame of America's immeasurable crime in Iraq. Yet every single one of them will leave the regime for fat, well-paid sinecures and honored retirements, living on in luxury, surrounded still by sycophants and apologists, cheating the justice they so richly deserve until the final judge comes round for them at last – as he did this week for their comrade in murder, Augusto Pinochet.


http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=956&Itemid=135

Bubba said:

Only in Texas:

"AUSTIN — A Republican state lawmaker wants to make sure no Texan is left out when it comes to hunting, even if the hunter is legally blind.

Rep. Edmund Kuempel, a Seguin Republican, has filed a bill for the 2007 legislative session that would allow legally blind hunters to use a laser sight, or lighted pointing instrument. The devices are forbidden for sighted hunters.

Blind hunters would also have to have a sighted hunter along with them, but they could hunt any game that sighted people can hunt in the same seasons and using the same weapons."

we have our priorities here in Texas

DiAnne said:

Fox reports that conservatives don't like Annan's speech - Kay Bailey Hutchinson and the like. They consider him an appeaser and other of their pet insults and of course, don't like multilateralism in any form, including the UN. Predictable.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,235934,00.html

I nominate Kofi Annan for the Nobel Peace Prize, and Jimmy Carter as well.

DiAnne said:

Oh great - blind Texan hunters and Mideast ambassadors who can't speak Arabic. The blind leading the dumb?!

NonnyO said:

Posted by: DiAnne at December 11, 2006 03:14 PM

Kudos to Kofi Annan! In an exceedingly restrained diplomatic speech, he just told us and the world what a F-Up Herr Boosh and his administration are. Too bad most people in this country aren't educated enough to understand most of what Annan said (well, not that anyone's paying attention during our annual season of gluttony; it won't be aired or printed in most of Lamestream Media anyway - note the speech was printed in full on a British news web site...).

NonnyO said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061212/ap_on_re_us/annan_farewell
No kudos for Bush in Annan's farewell
{{{See? This is what's wrong with American Lamestream Media; this is a prime example of what I've been complaining about for years. They put spin and false interpretation on Annan's speech. I read the full text on the web site; I understood every word of Annan's speech, I know exactly what he said. (I also sent it to all the people on my list.) I don't need any moronic spinmeister telling me anything. From "news" organizations I just want the basics of 'who, what, when, where, how, sometimes why' - the rest I can figure out for myself. I don't need anyone telling me what/how I'm supposed to think about the speech. There were no 'hidden' messages in Annan's words, after all. He laid it all out there. And, anyway, why would there be any kudos for Herr Boosh?!? He's the reason half the world is fupped up now, so he certainly does not deserve any kind of praise whatsoever. Condemnation, yes, but most assuredly no praise. What did Lamestream Media propagandists expect? Praise for lies, starting illegal and unconstitutional wars that are war crimes? Hel-l-l-o-o-o-o-o! What planet are they living on if they think Bu$hCo needs praise for the murder destruction they've wrought for the sake of lies and oil?!?}}}

DiAnne said:

NonnyO - just a sampling

United Kingdom:
Departing Annan attacks Bush's 'war on terror'
Annan says farewell with a swipe at Bush
A decent man working in troubled times
Ending Arab-Israeli war would help in Iraq
Annan bows out of UN with attack on Bush

America:
Annan's words often draw reaction
No kudos for Bush in Annan‘s farewell
Reserved US response to Annan
Kofi Annan Bids Farewell to the United Nations

Canada:
Kofi Annan's Legacy of Failure
Annan Slammed for Speech Critical of US
Kofi Annan to Blast US in Farewell Speech on US Soil

Europe:
Annan bows out of UN with attack on Bush

South Asia:
Annan calls for settling Mideast conflicts

Asia:
Annan warns US against go-it-alone diplomacy
Annan hails local elections held at Indonesia's Aceh province
For the new head of the UN, a past misstep leads to opportunity

Africa:
Incoming UN scribe Ban states guiding principles
Annan Says Proposed Force for Somalia Not 'Invasion ...
Freedom From Poverty is a Human Right

Middle East:
Annan warns US against go-it-alone diplomacy

Australia:
Danby praises Annan over Darfur genocide

New Guinea:
Ban all set to replace Annan at the UN

There really aren't that many stories on it. Glad Bolton's gone.


DiAnne said:

A few more weigh in:

Colorado: (actual objective headline)
Annan bids farewell

Illinois:
UN secretary-general critical of Bush administration in Missouri

Kazakhstan - home of Borat!!
Annan chides US in final speech

woz said:

Oops! Ohlmert made a gaffe and admitted Israel has nukes.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1809421.htm

Yes, purchased from America, I believe. This has been widely known for a long time now - certainly well before Israel bombed the crap out of Lebanon. Or do I invent things as quickly as I forget them these days?

woz said:

I nominate Kofi Annan for the Nobel Peace Prize, and Jimmy Carter as well.

Posted by: DiAnne at December 11, 2006 09:56 PM

I'll 2nd those nominations Diane. Kofi Annan has the calm voice and the body languageof PEACE.

woz said:

Sorry DiAnne - I meant to attribute the Ohlmert comment to you as well. Kind of made my final comment redundant. :p

NonnyO said:

Posted by: DiAnne at December 11, 2006 10:49 PM

I couldn't believe it when WaPo sent an email for a survey. So, to waste ten minutes, I filled it out, and then wrote to them at the email address provided at the end (which I'm sure will end up in a dead email inbox).

This is what I wrote:

I just finished filling out your survey. The "problem" I have with most of American media is that I don't get straight facts. Just give your readers 'who, what, where, when, how, and sometimes why' and readers can then make up my own mind about events and people making the news. Instead, WaPo and other "news" outlets give the reading public spin and false 'interpretation' of news. It's exceedingly tiresome to have to wade through all the spin to get to basic facts (which is why it's not worth the money to pay for printed versions of the spin all of you in print media want us to spend just so we can turn around and recycle all that paper). Just give your reading public the FACTS.

I've given up on all TV infotainment "news" except for the half hour of BBC news on the local PBS station. Religion in politics is a false issue, and only the most brainwashed kool-aid drinkers subscribe to the propaganda put out by Bu$hCo (and churches need their tax exempt status taken away if their ministers insist on preaching politics from the pulpit; additionally, funding faith-based charities with tax money is unconstitutional). Abortion and gay marriage and flag burning are false issues. Media wastes time and money talking or writing about false issues.

The 'war on terror' is bogus (the criminals who commit terrorist acts do not represent another country and they are not an organized army; leave it to law enforcement to catch the criminals!). How can there be a 'war on fear'? You in media have been masters at helping Bu$hCo instill fear of criminals in the American public.

All lies for the war in Iraq have been proved false. Even the ISG admits the US military is in Iraq for oil (something those of us with an IQ higher than a rock have known all along because we knew we were being lied to by Bush from the time of the 2000 presidential debates when he said he wouldn't do any 'nation building'). When will you in media 'fess up to FACTS? The invasion of Iraq was not only unconstitutional, but a war crime....

There is no reason to keep our troops in Afghanistan or Iraq. If our politicians had one iota of sense, they'd order the guard and reserve troops home on the next military transport planes out of those areas, and redeploy the regular troops elsewhere. Immediately. Then they'd pass a bill to pay reparations to the people whose lives have been shattered by the illegal and unconstitutional war, let the people in those countries rebuild their nations. As is, Bush will leave his mess for someone else to clean up. (What's new? He's had that pattern of behavior all of his life. Why would he change the habits of a lifetime?)

Bu$hCo needs to be held accountable, and impeached, and the sooner all of you in all American media outlets figure that out, the better off we'll all be. You have a lot of spinmeisters for the neoCons; when will you have journalists giving us reliable news without sneering and smearing Democrats and Independents when they write or speak common sense?

I get more reliable facts and news from foreign media than I do from American media, and certainly far less spin. I subscribe to many e-news lists.

Do you and other American media organizations want the respect you used to get when you were still giving your reading public FACTS?

Stop being a propaganda shill for Bu$hCo....

Sincerely,

I added:
P.S.
I am also a blogger, and one of the things just talked about on the blog today was Kofi Annan's speech. Here are my two of my blog entries about it which exemplify what I just wrote above:

And included what I wrote above, so I won't put that here.
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Anyway, the Resident Moron "leading" this country has nothing but disdain for the UN, so I wouldn't expect any of his propagandists with Lamestream Media to reflect anything but his narrow xenophobic view of Annan's speech.

I liked Annan's speech. After trying to decipher the incoherent babble of Herr Boosh for these last six years (and listen to spinmeisters attempting to make sense of anything he says), I just love to savor coherent sentences by educated people who know how to express themselves well - and Annan falls into that category.

NonnyO said:

They consider him an appeaser and other of their pet insults....
I nominate Kofi Annan for the Nobel Peace Prize, and Jimmy Carter as well.
Posted by: DiAnne at December 11, 2006 09:56 PM

Hmmmm.... "Appeaser" - and who should know what an appeaser is better than Lamestream Media and the Congress Critters on both sides of the aisle for the last six years.

All they've ever done is appease and appease and appease and appease... endlessly... the entire Bu$hCo administration, from passing legislation no one has had a chance to read to giving them everything they've demanded.

Pot. Kettle. Black. Takes one to know one, and all that rot.

I third that nomination for Annan - and didn't Carter already win a Nobel for Peace? Don't know if he's eligible for a second peace prize or not.

Ben Doko said:


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DiAnne said:

Yes Carter gets up early to write and knocks off around 11 PM. He's in his 80s and makes most of his living writing nowdays. He also builds and paints furniture and manages to go around the world and supervise elections. People trust him.

He did say in an interview I read a bit ago that no Presidential candidate recently has even given lip service to the Israel-Palestine issue. I plan to read his book on the subject. He also said that James Baker really wanted him on the Iraq Study Group committee but he was against the war from the state, so thought he'd decline. He did also say that James Baker realizes that is is absolutely essential to get a peace process going between the Israelis and Palestinians.

NonnyO said:

History will not treat us kindly
By Tim Andersen
We will be remembered as the Americans who insulated themselves from reality and remained self-absorbed, concerned with their own personal comfort and privilege while our government wrecked havoc on the world and destroyed our own culture.
http://tinyurl.com/y3s5sn

Sheehan Among Four Convicted of Trespassing
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106R.shtml
Peace activist Cindy Sheehan and three other women were convicted of trespassing Monday for trying to deliver an anti-Iraq War petition to the US Mission to the United Nations and refusing to leave.
{{{I wonder how many "lists" these women will be on now? They were only convicted of trespassing, the other charges were dropped.}}}

The Americans don't see how unwelcome they are, or that Iraq is now beyond repair
By Patrick Cockburn:
Manipulation of facts was often very crude. As an example of the systematic distortion, the Iraq Study Group revealed last week that on one day last July US officials reported 93 attacks or significant acts of violence. In reality, it added, "a careful review of the reports ... brought to light 1,100 acts of violence".
http://tinyurl.com/y6rlje

Niall Ferguson | Baker-Hamilton's Fine Print: Stay in Iraq
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106S.shtml
Niall Ferguson writes: "Last week saw the publication of a masterpiece of persuasion. But whom will it persuade? And with what sticks and carrots? Most commentators have interpreted the report of the Iraq Study Group as a well-crafted admission of defeat.... Rather, the report's aim is to convince legislators that withdrawal from Iraq - no matter how much their constituents may yearn for it - is not an option."

{{{The devil is always in the fine print and the itty-bitty details with these jerks. The more things change, the more they stay the same.}}}

Iraqi Exodus Could Test Bush Policy
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106T.shtml
Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have fled their homeland are likely to seek refugee status in the United States, putting intense pressure on the Bush administration to re-examine a policy that authorizes only 500 Iraqis to be resettled here next year. The official US policy has been that the refugee situation is temporary and that most of the estimated 1.5 million who have fled to Jordan, Syria, and elsewhere will eventually return to Iraq. But US and international officials now acknowledge that the instability in Iraq has made it too dangerous for many refugees, especially Iraqi Christians, to return any time soon.

Climate Scientist Says "Kyoto" Barred
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/121106EA.shtml
A federal climate scientist in Boulder says his boss told him never to utter the word Kyoto and tried to bar him from using the phrase climate change at a conference. The allegations come as federal investigators probe whether Bush administration officials tried to block government scientists from speaking freely about global warming and attempted to censor their research.

Congress OKs Drilling off Florida
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/121106EB.shtml
Congress gave final approval this morning to legislation to open 8.3 million acres of federal waters west of the Florida coast to oil and gas drilling, a victory for business interests who lobbied for the bill and four Gulf Coast states that would receive billions in new oil and gas royalties. But even drilling supporters admitted it was just a tiny fraction of the publicly owned area they had hoped to open during 12 years of Republican rule of Congress.
{{{Um hum... and I wonder what will happen to the oil rigs when a cat. 5 hurricane hits...?}}}


Against Torture
LATIN AMERICAN INTELLECTUALS PRESENT A MANIFESTO “AGAINST TORTURE”
The militarily organized practice of torture, the sexual abuse, and all other abuses of men and women, clandestine incarcerations and forced disappearances, are not new in the history of the Third World, and of Latin America in particular. It has been instead an historical constant of colonial, neocolonial and neoliberal domination.
http://tinyurl.com/y55v68

Jonathan Chait | The Bubble Boy in the Oval Office
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106C.shtml
"Indeed, everybody seems to understand that if you want to help amend the disaster in Iraq, the No. 1 rule is that you can't acknowledge it's a disaster in Bush's presence," writes Jonathan Chait. "Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes, the court stenographer of the Bush administration, recently reported that this was a key factor in the hiring of Defense Secretary Robert Gates."

Military Officers Star in Promotional Evangelical Video
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106H.shtml
A military watchdog group is asking the Defense Department to investigate whether seven Army and Air Force officers violated regulations by appearing in uniform in a promotional video for an evangelical Christian organization.
{{{Holy Freakazoids, Batman!}}}

NonnyO said:

Posted by: DiAnne at December 12, 2006 12:55 AM

Carter told us the truth about energy. He was not elected for a second term because the populace could not stand hearing that we couldn't be indulged like spoiled brats during an energy crisis.

How sad that 'we' (collectively) couldn't act like grown ups (although I realize many people started conserving and recycling about that time and it's now a habit). If we had listened to Carter, a lot of the energy crunch we're facing now might have been mitigated with finding economical alternative energy sources a long time ago - or, at least research for affordable alternate energy would be much farther ahead than it is now. Around Carter's presidency the rage was to drive smaller cars that got good gas mileage. Immediately after that, cars just got bigger and even less fuel-efficient than ever. (I don't like big cars for the simple reason I am a short person and big cars are awkward to get into. They're just not practical for a person like me.)

Und zo. The elites and those who would emulate the elites who can afford big vehicles and the gas it takes to run them continue to run this nation into the ground, demanding to be indulged like the spoiled brats they are, even if someone else must get killed for their selfishness; we're a small minority of the world's population, but we use a quarter of the world's resources. That makes us greedy spoiled brats.

And people like Herr Boosh wonder why we, as a nation, are not respected world-wide?!?

Go figure.

NonnyO said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/good-news-everybody-we_b_36040.html

Arianna Huffington: Good News, Everybody: We've Got a New Iraq Slogan!

Not surprisingly, the Bush administration is already backing away from most of the proposals put forth by the Iraq Study Group. The New York Times, with unintended comic irony, noted it this way: "Administration officials say their preliminary review of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group's recommendations has concluded that many of its key proposals are impractical or unrealistic." Thank God we have George Bush to protect us from doing anything impractical or unrealistic in the Middle East.

But there is one thing in the proposal we can be sure Bush will take from the report -- the slogan. Bush may not be into things like facts, truth, or reality, but he loves a good slogan.

So while Bush may not like any of the Group's 79 proposals (so impractical and unrealistic), he's ready to adopt its slogan, "New Way Forward." Newsweek says that next week "Bush is expected to announce what he calls 'The New Way Forward,' his latest plan to salvage the mission in Iraq."

{{{Click on link for more. You will appreciate the slogan timeline......}}}

karen said:

Morning All,

We are sitting in the Manchester, NH airport, on our way back from the Boston gathering. I'll try to do a fuller report later but will share that there a good deal of conversation about blogs and blogging among the gatherers, especially addressing some of the points in this thread about the value of fact-checking, conversations that change hearts and minds, and the value of YouTube for electoral politics from here on out.

The role of the online communities (in contrast with the role of online personalities) was another topic we talked about a lot. And, of course, the notions about how all of this affects the democratic process was also critical.

At any rate, lots of food for thought and blog posts, and discussions! We hope we represented you all well; we certainly missed you all and spoke of you to anyone who asked us about the community.

Karen and Richard (and Larry!)

DiAnne said:

NonnyO
Bingo - you hit it on the head - "the elites and those who would emulate the elites" - that's also part of how people end up voting against their own interest & putting people into office who don't care about them.

I worked for people back in Carter's day who used my name (without my knowledge) to get more grants and they still have some pretty big luxury cars sitting in their drive. Then I worked for money-grubbing private nursing homes who tried to use my license to rip off poor elderly. Remember all the coke-sniffing physicians in the 80s and later the 24 year old dot.com millionaires in the 90s and then those who lost their retirement by investing all in one company headed by criminals in this decade (Enron, WorldCom etc? It's greed, so ancient Buddha identified it.

The other part of our nature is compassion. That's why I so much respect people like Kofi Annan and Jimmy Carter. & the world does, if America doesn't. I woke up thinking how we have the most prisons, make & sell the most arm, have the poorest healthcare of the developed world, yet use the most resources per capita. It's also why I work for a nonprofit that has compassion in the mission statement, even though it's religious and I'm not. My labor is from a positive spiritual place but that doesn't make me a believer in organized religion.

We aren't rich in this country. We're trying to emulate the rich. We would have been so much better off to increase the basic standard of living, even if it meant more taxation, and to stay out of wars. The Scandinavean countries don't appear to be doing so badly, and Europe's economy is growing while ours is shrinking. Greed and bullying don't work as well as sustained planning of a good infrastructure. & we're being taxed anyway and it's going into the pockets of the greedy.

DiAnne said:

Didn't we know Bush would capitulate to "the greybeards" but pretend it was all his own idea, with a couple weeks of kicking and screaming before he delivered his Rovish speech?!

Why does Libby get Habeas Corpus but those in Guantanamo don't?

Chris Floyd | Presidential Tyranny Untamed by Election Defeat
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206J.shtml
Chris Floyd begins, "Like the two entwining strands of the double helix, law and power form the genetic structure of government. Law is nothing but empty verbiage without power to back it up, enforce it, embody it. And power without law is nothing but a mad ape, baring its teeth, thumping its chest, raping and beating where it pleases, taking what it wants: a bestial thing, born in the muddy swamp of our lowest, blindest, rawest biochemical impulses. Disconnect these strands and things fall apart, as Yeats says; the center literally cannot hold, and the blood-dimmed tide is loosed upon the world."

David Bacon | Are Democrats Heading Over a Cliff?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206K.shtml
"Having used Latino and labor votes to recapture control of the US Congress, some influential Democratic Party power brokers now seem intent on attacking the very base that produced their victory," writes David Bacon.

US Military Deaths in Iraq Hit 2,928
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206L.shtml
As of Friday, December 8, 2006, at least 2,928 members of the US military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. The figure includes seven military civilians. At least 2,356 died as a result of hostile action, according to the military's numbers.

Gore Doesn't Rule Out '08 Run; Kucinich Is In
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206M.shtml
"I am not planning to run for president again," Gore said last week, arguing that his focus is raising public awareness about global warming and its dire effects. Then, he added, "I haven't completely ruled it out." Meanwhile, Democratic Representative Dennis Kucinich said Monday he is planning another bid because his party isn't pushing hard enough to end the Iraq war.

War Resister Considers Himself a Soldier as He Builds New Life
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206N.shtml
"I knew I was at a turning point," 33-year-old Patrick Hart said of the wrenching ride toward the border, where he would leave his country behind. From Buffalo, Hart would cross into Canada.His parents, who were in on his secret, drove him across the Peace Bridge and delivered him to a network of Canadian
supporters who welcome disillusioned US soldiers with open arms, a place to stay, and legal advice.

Judge Settles Classified Info Fight in Libby Case
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206O.shtml
A federal judge has accepted a series of redactions and substitutions proposed by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald - to be provided to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's defense team -
which will limit what Libby can share with jurors about his top-secret White House briefings, at his upcoming trial.

Outrage Over Killing of Gaza Boys
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206P.shtml
The killing of three sons of a top intelligence officer in Gaza has caused widespread outrage among Palestinians. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said the attack by gunmen in Gaza City was "an ugly and inhuman crime." "Words stop at the extent of this crime," said the children's father, Baha
Balusheh, who is linked to Mr. Abbas's Fatah party. The gunmen fired over 70 bullets at the car in which the children, aged six to ten, were traveling to school.

Also check out Lebanon!

mbk said:

Wonderful quote, Karen-- thanks!

NonnyO said:

DiAnne already posted the link above, but this is a "must read" so I'm reposting the link.

Chris Floyd | Presidential Tyranny Untamed by Election Defeat
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206J.shtml

Floyd has hit the nail on the head about the lackluster performance of the current Dems. If they don't DO SOMETHING - and SOON!!! - our less than perfect nation that is *technically* still a dictatorship as long as the entire MCA '06 is still in force is in mortal danger from our "leaders" (even repealing part of it doesn't negate the dictatorship part - ALL of it needs to be repealed!). I'm sending it to my rep & new senator who will be sworn in on Jan. 3.

NonnyO said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6169717.stm

Climate 'would reel from A-bombs'
Even a small-scale nuclear war would have far-reaching consequences for the global climate, say scientists.
A US team has modelled the effects of a limited conflict in the light of new concerns over weapons proliferation.

{{{More on link. Shamefully, the nation that has accelerated the whole idea, and the reality, of an increased number of bombs is the US under Herr Boosh with his megalomaniacal insistence on war, war, and more war, with the goal of global domination. Fools, all fools, lead this nation if our elected reps do not throw the bums out of office and get back to something resembling sanity. I notice this made the British press; I wonder if it will be talked about in Lamestream Media here...?}}}

mbk said:

Posted by: mbk at December 12, 2006 10:30 AM
(forgot to add this before). . and your comments were lovely, too. Very timely piece, and also timeless. Thanks again.

NonnyO said:

http://www.americanprogress.org/cartoons
Today's American Progress cartoon

monkey said:

Indy says this station is givin WWOZ a run for its moolah in Nawlins.... been whistlin while I woik today, figgered since he shared with me, I'd share with you... great mix of stuff so far.

Listen in, cuz the blog that grooves together, moves together... and in 12/12 hindsight, isn't a good movement what it's all about?

http://www.nola.com/music/nolaradio/

Christy said:

Can we impeach the bastard yet?

Just thought I would ask.

DiAnne said:

Christy
Now we can't see his dad come to trial either because Pinochet is dead so Daddy's harder to implicate. & evidence was destroyed or sealed by Executive Order as first act in office.

DiAnne said:


Robert Parry | Pinochet's Death Spares Bush Family
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206D.shtml
Robert Parry writes: "General Augusto Pinochet's death on December 10 means the Bush Family can breathe a little bit easier, knowing that criminal proceedings against Chile's notorious dictator can no longer implicate his longtime friend and protector, former President George H.W. Bush."

George Monbiot | Torture Is at the Heart of America's War on Terror
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206B.shtml
George Monbiot writes: "President Bush maintains that he is fighting a war against threats to the 'values of civilized nations': terror, cruelty, barbarism and extremism. He asked his nation's interrogators to discover where these evils are hidden. They should congratulate themselves. They appear to have succeeded."

DiAnne said:

Public opposition to this war has edged beyond the strongest levels of opposition ever registered to the Vietnam War, one poll indicated. Another survey pointed to a stunning collapse in support among the president's fellow Republicans for his conduct of the war.

The continuing violence in Iraq, victories by Democrats in the Nov. 7 elections and the grim description by the study group of a "grave and deteriorating" situation in Iraq all appeared to play a role.

Seventy percent of Americans told pollsters for CBS that the war was going badly — the largest percentage ever in that survey — and only 4 percent said the United States should stay with the same tactics. Half of those surveyed said the administration should move to end U.S. involvement altogether.

Sixty percent told Washington Post/ABC News pollsters that the war was not worth fighting.

Last month, 70 percent of Republicans approved of Bush's handling of the war. Now, CBS found, only 47 percent do.

But 75 percent of respondents of a USA Today/Gallup poll supported the key proposals of the Iraq Study Group.

Sixty-two percent of respondents in the CBS poll said that sending troops to Iraq had been a mistake. Gallup polls in the early 1970s found 60 percent saying that sending troops to Vietnam had been a mistake.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/12/news/policy.php

No wonder he's putting his speech off.

NonnyO said:

Posted by: DiAnne at December 12, 2006 03:25 PM

I just finished reading those two articles and others. Aren't those two articles *interesting*? I noticed Gates' name in connection with Pappy Boosh (again) for the Iran-Contra illegalities. That nest of pit vipers just keeps slithering on and on and on....

Another article from the same e-newsletter:

Sarah Olson | Iraq Report: "A Giant Step Sideways"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121206A.shtml
Despite the mainstream media's sound and fury, many analysts say the Iraq Study Group report has little to do with leaving Iraq any time soon. Instead, they fear the report's diligent research and assiduous recommendations serve to obfuscate the depth of the US-created crisis, change the nature of the occupation, pave the way for multinational privatization of Iraq's resources, and distract from increasingly stentorian calls for immediate withdrawal.

NonnyO said:

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/12/12/china_has_us_by_the_purse.php

China Has U.S. By The Purse
Who has real power over U.S. decision-making? If you think it is the White House, or even the Congress, think again. There has been a power shift underway for years and, believe it our not, our future and fortune rests in the hands of bureaucrats on the other side of the world. Sorry folks, but our red, white and blue economy is afloat because of members of the Politburo of the Chinese Communist Party.

Yes, the Red Menace that we spent so many years fearing as a military threat now represents a far more serious economic threat. Mao must be turning in his grave with the news that no less than six U.S. Cabinet members are on their way to the Middle Kingdom on Wednesday to beseech, beg, lobby and try to persuade the new mandarins not to sell off their vast reservoir of dollars.

There’s an old saying that a person can be in trouble when he owes a bank a hundred bucks. But if he owes $100 million, the bank could be in trouble. We owe China billions, but they realize that collapse of American capitalism—once a goal—could also trigger a collapse of Chinese “communism.” That’s how mutually intertwined we have become, and how complicit we are with a government which the Committee to Protect Journalists says now jails more journalists than any other.

{Click on link for more.}

Christy said:

You do not have to wait around to arrest GH for Iran Contra.

If you impeach dick and georgie... GHWB and many others will go down with them.

One thing to remember is most of the people that got us into this, their loyalties lie with daddy not with georgie.

There is no way in hell George W has done what he has done without the direct coordination and express consent from George HW.

You can take down Kissenger too by impeaching bush. Namely for insurance fraud on the WTC.

You have ONLY ONE CHANCE to get these bastards that should have already been dealt with before I was even born.

SO IMPEACH HIM ALREADY.

And the entire house of bush will fall.

I WILL bet my own life on it.

I would bet all of yours on it too.

Christy said:

What I am about to say, I am not sure will go over very well with this group, in this place, but I feel I have to say it.

I understand that here I am one of the youngest in the group. I know as far as politics go I'm in the company of far more experienced and dedicated people who have been doing this since before I was even alive.

I know as smart as I am, yall that came before my time will rightly be better suited to decide, to rule for the present and near future.

But especially in the last few days I have been thinking very hard about a conversation my mother and I had when I was a child.

It was about Richard Nixon.

My mother made it a habit to have political talks with us even at a very early age. Not an activist type of discussion, more like just getting us familiar with the players and explaining the history or functions.

And then when I was like 12 she touched on Nixon once again and spoke of his open lawbreaking and all the paranoia and fear that was going on in those days.

In my moment of brilliance I opened my big mouth and asked her 'If he was committing crimes when did he go to prison?'

I remember my mom was quiet for a long time and got all flush. She explained to me that , no, he had never spent a day in jail.

She tried explaining to me social points that did not make sense to me. She basically told me that he was above the law and that powerful criminals rarely face justice.

I asked her how he could have gotten such power since they were the voters he answered too?

We got into a huge argument about it. She belittled me for not grasping these concepts even though they COMPLETELY contradicted every other thing she had ever taught me. I could not grasp the polar opposite of what I knew and I certainly could not understand why I should for some creep named Richard Nixon.

I opened my big mouth one too many times that day and got smacked good for it. I went to my room the rest of the week just stewwing on it. I was angry at my mother, her duplicity. I wanted an apology and explanation but never got either.

For years I did not understand what had happened that day. I thought about it now and then and thought 'WTF got into her?' Her reaction always seemed out of propotion.

I never understood it, until the other day.

When I asked her what seemed a simple question about Nixon being in prison, that flush was one of SHAME.

See, my mom is very smart herself and like yall, I know that for all these years SHE HAS KNOWN that what happened there, in that time, has never been resolved.

And the ones that caused it are still even now committing even greater crimes. To the shame of everyone baring witness to it.

I do not think anyone doubts that Nixon SHOULD have been punished as surely as any one of us would have been.

Kissenger SHOULD have faced trial. Cheney and Rummy never should have made it to the 80s without serious incarceration.

All of these things we KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT should have happened then. No man is above the law.

58,000 of our men killed 3 million of their people...and for WHAT..?

I mean, my God really FOR WHAT..?

To this day no one can coherently explain WHY that happened, no one even bothers to try.

You know why..? Because they all have that moment when the mere mention of it flushes them in shame and NOTHING gets resolved.

There is no closure. There is no justice. NOTHING was ever made right. They got away with ALL of it to the shame of those who could have stopped them.

I always believed that in that moment my mother owed her children BETTER reasoning than what got me viciously rebuked.

In so many ways, from Vietnam to Iraq your generation, the generation that came before us, the ones it was done too... In the most basic sense of the word, you OWE IT TO US to still make it right if you can.

I know a lot here cringe when I say impeach and use the most vile names I can get away with for georgie.

But the truth is, my generation can not make this right until we finish what should have been done long ago. We can not make this right without YOUR generation being willing to face its greatest defeats.

I know what I am asking for when I say impeach, people say I am asking for a divided nation but we all know that it will unite us like never before.

The opposition to georgie is almost universal and there is no more time to lose. The dying will not stop until these maniacs that command it are stopped.

Kissenger, GHWB, baker... all of them only need to get away with it this one last time to have lived a life completely untouched by accountability for crimes of unimaginable horror.

I do not want to flush with shame when I relay to my children the fate of George W. Bush.

I will be honest with you, I am still angry at my mother over that day, I am still mad about Richard Nixon. I never did understand it then, and now I refuse to accept it.

I know it was not HER fault the man never spent a day in prison, but then again it WAS her fault too.

It was all of yalls fault.

And people are still dying in droves with not a chance in hell of justice, liberty, dignity.

If we do impeach, I am not too much of a newbie to know it will be because of your generations and not mine.

It will be because yall are finally ready to go all the way back and resolve issues that tore you to pieces once.

And if your generation will just TRUST my generation to get your backs when it all goes down, we will.

If we do impeach, if we can breathe life back into the US Constitution and bring georgie back to heel at the feet of LAW your generation will give us something this nation has never had before, a clean slate.

My generation will need it to save the world.


monkey said:

Appeals court to Skilling: Go directly to jail
U.S. court tells former Enron CEO to report to prison immediately, according to a report.

December 12 2006: 6:54 PM EST

HOUSTON (Reuters) -- A U.S. appeals court ordered ex-Enron chief executive officer Jeffrey Skilling to report to prison immediately, according to the Houston Chronicle.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/12/news/newsmakers/skilling.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

DiAnne said:

Christy
It's not so out of line to question elders.
I was hearing today that the Artic ice will be melted by the time I'm 100 or so and it occurred to me that my son will still have quite a few years to go. So it sure does matter to him what I decide to do and what kind of choices I make, such as how much to drive & how much space to heat & with what. It is not me who will get taxed so the system won't collapse. It'll be him (& his kids).

DiAnne said:

Christy
My only comment is that there are also some real apathetics in your generation. Glad you're not. There wasn't much impetus to action, growing up in the Reagan era. Actually there was, but it was completely not obvious compared to growing up with political assassinations and overt war going on. The "Me Generation" followed the baby boomers and also Gen X. The generation following that is actually more political.

DiAnne said:

Oh my - ArmoredDinnerjacket invited David Duke, formerly of the Ku Klux Klan, to Iran to say the Holocaust never happened & John Bolton is already coming out of retirement to spearhead a movement to punish him for inciting genocide. It's nutty beyond belief. Life imitates movies, only turns out crazier.

Christy said:

Dianne have you ever considered that my generations apathy is directly linked to the failure of generations before?

I am not trying to personally indict anyone, I am saying that had the power of impeachment and war crimes tribunals been unleashed then, it would have reaffirmed a maximum amount of confidence in a system that is ...simply inspiring.

Yet, instead of that confidence, what we have inheirited quite literally is a broken and misused nation where not even our most basic function of voting can be trusted.

We inheirited a nation that is so ashamed of what they have done, they let justice be refused instead of face it and do whats right.

Perhaps my generation will care more, when we are shown HOW.


This is not an age issue, or even a blame issue. It is about going as far as we have too... And correcting history itself even as it is escaping behind us.

In the end, THAT is what make the US Constitution MORE PERFECT. Our ability to make history right wether it is 20 years or 200 years later is unlike any other system.

If we do not settle the most profound issues that happened in OUR lifetimes, what in Gods name will be left to give to our kids in 20 years??

There will be nothing left. This nation will not survive US.

Voter apathy will be the least of our problems.

Wonderful article, Karen. Thanks.

I know I have said it many times, but it can never be said too many times:

Thank you everyone here at the DCP for caring enough about national and world events to post articles here about them. Thank you ever so much more for posting your viewpoints and thoughts here about the same because I truly enjoy those and learn alot from them also.

Again I will say that I came to the internet(s) when I was about ready to kick in my television set during the '04 Presidential campaign because I couldn't get an unbiased look at John Kerry anywhere on television. At the time I considered myself a very determined Republican, but things were starting to look and smell fishy to me. The more I tried to learn anything about the Democratic candidate through the MSM, the more frustrated and angry I got because not only did I find the reporting shamelessly biased, the time given "reporting" the President outweighed the Democratic candidate by what I considered to be at least 90 to one.

I had heard about blogs in news broadcasts on television, so in order to find out more about John Kerry I logged in to the John Kerry for President blog.

You might say I learned ALOT there, and after the election I routinely logged in here to continue learning, and to vent my anger and frustration at the way things were going. This blog also served as a balm for my feelings of frustration over the fact that most of the country seemed to be blind to the truth at that time.

During that time I went from a Republican to an Independent, but last summer I made the determination to register and vote as a Democrat from here on, and I did this past fall.

My learning process was slow, because I had alot of catching up to do, but you guys helped alot. I can't even imagine learning all I did without the trusted contributions I found and continue to find here at the DCP. Reading different points of view, reading articles about opening my mind to different opinions, respect and admiration for each of you made a "world" of difference. And I have learned so much about politics and much, much more through my association here.

Like Karen says, we NEVER have to stop learning.
Blogs DO make a difference. And once again, thanks, everybody! :-D

Carol said:

Christy,

I just came back from an interesting forum on impeachment - all democrats with varying opinions. None of us doubted the facts that are cause for impeachment.

Some of us were all for it.

Some of us doubted that there is time left in this administration to get it done, because with so much evidence, it would undoubtedly take much longer than Clinton's impeachment, which took 6 months.

Some of us felt that the most important thing is getting out of Iraq, and that it might be impossible to focus on both things at once.

One thing we all supported was investigations into the impeachable offenses to see if there is iron clad documentable proof. Because while we here all think there is, there are lots who are unsure.

Unless we have a slam dunk case with clear evidence so that the republicans and the media and the people can't deny it, and in fact are on board, all an impeachment will be is a line in the history books, and a distraction from the other important matters at hand - most importantly getting out of the mess in Iraq.

Personally - I think he should be tried at the Hague.

Christy said:

I absolutely agree Carol, he should be tried at the Hague.

As I was saying about what happened with Nixon, it is time for this nation to humble itself and be ready to go all the way back.

But for now an impeachment will check his power. Until we can swear out an arrest warrant for a sitting president.

Now, THAT will be the tricky part.

Impeachment is just the beginning of what NEEDS to happen here.

If it does not happen every single one of us will leave nothing but the shame of it behind for our kids to deal with.

DiAnne said:

As it is, Rove has apparently counselled Bush not to mess up Christmas by talking about Iraq - just try to keep people blissfully spending away as though nothing has happened. Also, they will want to compete with the incoming Democrats for getting media attention. We can expect diversionary tactics.

DiAnne said:

Kerry to Meet Soldiers, Leaders in Iraq

WASHINGTON - Sen. John Kerry, whose botched joke about U.S. troops in Iraq dealt a blow to his presidential ambitions, will travel to Iraq this weekend to meet with soldiers, political leaders and military officials.

"I've talked to plenty of guys who've come back from Iraq, who are there now, who understand exactly what happened," Kerry said of his joke in a telephone interview Tuesday with The Associated Press. "They laugh at it."

The Iraq stop will be part of a nine-day Mideast trip that includes stops in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Israel.

(snip)
The Massachusetts senator, who was widely criticized for the quip, said he'd be happy to apologize to any soldiers he encounters in Iraq who don't understand what happened.

"For anybody who misunderstood (the joke) or got only the White House presentation of it, I'd apologize, obviously," he said.

Kerry will spend the latter part of his trip with a potential presidential rival and fellow member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Christopher Dodd of Connecticut. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, considered the Republican front-runner in the 2008 race, also plans a trip to Iraq.

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2006/12/12/540474.html&cvqh=itn_kerry

DiAnne said:

Ohlmert tries to backpedal after his gaffe of admitting on German tv that Israel has nukes, when they like to remain ambiguous

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1970861,00.html

DiAnne said:

So there are actually fringe orthodox Jews who believe Israel should not exist and attended ArmoredDinnerJacket's Holocaust denier and white Supremacy conference. Now I've heard everything. This isn't the Onion.

http://lifestyle.monstersandcritics.com/religion/news/article_1232640.php/Orthodox_Jews_attend_Iran_holocaust_conference

This world is crazy.

DiAnne said:

71 killed 200 injured in central Baghdad - imagine if this happened here. It would read 710 killed 2000 injured in central Washington DC or something.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1970932,00.html

Marjorie G said:

Tell me why the AP story is all about the joke effect, and not what he hopes to learn and accomplish in the middle east. Rhetorically asked.

DiAnne said:

http://news.com.com/Christian+video+game+stokes+controversy+in+U.S./2100-1043_3-6143221.html?tag=nefd.top

Story about that ridiculous game "Left Behind" type thing where fundies try to convert or kill those who have not been raptured up. Story says 60 million Americans are evangelicals- that means more than 1 in 5 - and that our church attendance is much much higher than in any country in the developed world.

Marjorie G
The only thing I can figure out is that there are forces in this country that want to decimate Kerry's chances for 2008. They also tried to knock out his fundraising and spokespersonship for the last couple weeks before the 2006 election. Rove has got to be behind it but I still can't figure out how media control works - advertisers, consolidation, infiltration. I don't want to hear crap about freedom isn't free because we don't really have freedom. Kofi Annan is right - if we purport to promote democracy, we should retain it here.

Bubba said:

Texas joins the antiDeLay bandwangon, having won the 22nd and now the 23rd Congressional Districts tonight. Sweet Justice for what DeLay put us through with ReDistricting.


Dec. 12, 2006, 9:13PM
Democrat Rodriguez ousts Bonilla from House seat


By ELIZABETH WHITE
Associated Press

Houston Chronicle

"SAN ANTONIO — Former U.S. Rep. Ciro Rodriguez defeated seven-term Republican incumbent Henry Bonilla in a runoff today, adding another Democrat to Congress and deciding Texas' final congressional seat."

With more than half the precincts reporting in the state's largest district, Rodriguez had 57 percent to Bonilla's 43 percent.

The two were the top vote-getters in a special election held Nov. 7, but neither got 50 percent, prompting the runoff.

Rodriguez's win gives Congress another Democrat after the party won control of Congress in the November elections. Texas added one Democrat already in the suburban Houston 22nd Congressional District once held by Republican Rep. Tom DeLay."


woz said:

Christy, I've been trying to think of something to say, in defense of my generation. I'm 57. I too, developed an awareness of world affairs during the 1950s due to my father's body language when reading the newspaper. It always prompted questions, "What made you shiver?" or "Why did you thump the table? You spilled my drink!" or for unintelligible mumblings, "What?" (what was far more economical in our house, than the more polite and woossy 'I beg your pardon?' which still doesn't seem like a sensible response to not hearing something).

I suppose I come from a similar place to you in the political exposure that was around me from the earliest age - together with a mishmash of literary masterpieces and Australian classics. But when he disagreed with something, my father was angry. Damned angry. And he made it quite clear why he disagreed.

Criminal activity from the most powerful amongst us was far, far worse than any crime committed by the ordinary folk, according to Dad.

I've been thinking a lot about him over the past weeks, whilst reading through your comments in particular, Christy. I agree with your views on impeachment and criminal charges being laid against Bush and his cronies. Corruption grows like a cancer whilst it is not excised. Those who don't want to *distract* from the higher cause of withdrawal from Iraq are closing their eyes to the major cause of the occupation. Without GWB, the troops come home!

Impeach and incarcerate the highly malignant cancer that has eaten through international respect for your country and respect for you as a people.

Christy, thankyou for your youth, your passion, your reason and your condemnation. I apologise to all those we have let down. Badly. I apologise to my grandchildren and their grandchildren.

Our leaders are protected by their wealth and I don't know how to defeat that. I do the things I'm good at. I talk to anyone and everyone. I had a very animated political discussion with a lady in her late 60s this afternoon whilst waiting for a bus. There was a young man - a student I think, seated between us, head going back and forth like he was watching a major record-breaking volley at the tennis. The bus was 25 minutes late. It arrived at the perfect moment of the discussion - having given us plenty of time to cover a lot of ground; whilst giving us no chance to lapse into the repetetive statements of the elderly.

When I came home I thought of the young guy and hoped that, if nothing else, he would think about things we'd said - including legal action against the illegal activities of political leaders.

Perhaps he'll describe the exchange to his peers and get more points of view and discussions happening (after the laughter) This seems to be my contribution these days. Stimulating discussion in unexpected places.

Thanks Christy - it's people like you who give me confidence that things will improve.

woz said:

I can't find a transcript of an item on tonights ABC and SBS tv news programs. Is it true - that there will be an 40,000 increase of American troops in Iraq? If so, I guess Bush is still after that win against terrorism.

mbk said:

Rove has got to be behind it but I still can't figure out how media control works - Posted by: DiAnne at December 13, 2006 12:00 AM

I have no doubt that RoveCo is behind a lot of this. But what dismays me (and what has to STOP) is how gullible my fellow Dems seem to be to Rovian machinations, how EAGER they are, even, to echo, endorse, and even amplify what the Rovians have orchestrated. I am just beside myself with frustration with the juvenile behavior of my party.

Christy said:

Thank you Woz, that really means a lot to me.

It is funny cause as I was reading your words this stood out to me so much,

"Our leaders are protected by their wealth and I don't know how to defeat that."

That I think is the most basic universal fear or obstacle for almost all of us. We all get to that mental point and stop.

They are protected by wealth so large and powerful it seems almost impossible to break their hold.

As I read those words I realized that was the exact same thing that has kept almost EVERY war criminal from avoiding justice.

It is amazing to me that the sense of not knowing how to 'defeat that', is the one thing that keeps all of us feeling helpless. It is a collective form of mental intimidation.

In so many ways we have grown accustomed to the thought they WILL get away with anything simply because they are protected by their wealth and powerful friends. We put them beyond the law so much in our minds, it makes it so in reality.

And your dad was right, the ones that commit crimes at that level are by far more dangerous and destructive than the most common thug will ever be.

DiAnne said:

mbk
I think the juvenile & bending-over behavior of Democrats is because they are also beholden to special interests. There is no way they can get elected without them, so campaign promises are always owed.

Some fairly good legislation got passed at the last minute through bipartisan cooperation in the form of "you help pass my bill and I'll help you pass yours" (introducing bills seems to be a form of ego enhancement as well as favor to big donors and powerful constituents and lobby groups). The other mechanism is "I'll pass your bill if you'll let my pet project get tacked onto the end where no one will notice in the hurry." They could actually have worked together more all along, even with Republicans in the majority, but it had to come down to deadlines, like they're all students procrastinating on a term paper.

Any good ideas on how to hedge against the falling dollar?!
Not in a position to buy gold, trade currency and foreign stocks are high now. Could move to a 3rd world country but too young to retire and no big investments to live off. Don't speak Chinese. Seriously, is there any money in the Social Security trust fund? & the Arctic ice is melting.

Got a couple of strange emails - one referenced a story in Kos which was supposed to have alot of F words in but also alot of facts and in fact I didn't read it. I did read my friend's synopsis which said if we leave Iraq, Saudi Arabia threatens to support the Sunnis. That would be bizarre - blackmail. No wonder Cheney was summoned over to meet with King Abdullah.

The other one was for some noble cause but it was sent by a stranger who said I could maybe spread the word at johnkerry.com. Does this mean someone is mining blogs for emails (which I now occlude by using a URL but didn't use to) and then emailing those people and asking them to spread the word on blogs they're known to use? I mean - it was a noble cause (global warming, I think) and the need is urgent but seemed a little strange.

Well we have huge wind gusts here - woke me up at 4 AM so I'll be tired. I imagine there will be fallen trees, power outings, stalled ferries and closed bridges. Apocalyptic.

The thing about the generations is kind of pointless because there are activists and apathetics in all of them. I have collected data from the last elections and the boomer, elderly and young groups did well and in fact, a couple of the generations following me moved to the exurbs and joined megachurches. LOL

TSP said:

I did read my friend's synopsis which said if we leave Iraq, Saudi Arabia threatens to support the Sunnis. That would be bizarre - blackmail. No wonder Cheney was summoned over to meet with King Abdullah.

Posted by: DiAnne at December 13, 2006 08:59 AM

Now isn't THAT interesting? These puppies are desperate to keep this thing going in Iraq, aren't they?


TSP said:

Posted by: woz at December 13, 2006 06:02 AM

Woz,

Don't know for sure, but last I heard on the news programs last night is that there is talk of increasing the troops, but nothing has been decided formally yet.

President Bush has decided to wait until after the holidays to announce new plans. (Probably doesn't want grieving and scared families on the news this emotional time of year. His numbers are low enough as it is.) Or, he knows the people won't go for increasing the troops, especially at this time of the year. Or, he is afraid of a riot? (I wish.)

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