Who Will Be the American Idol? On-Line Debates Premiere Next Fall

If looks could kill, they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears

Please come and recommend:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/25/12247/8205

Laura Bush wants us to know that they are suffering.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/04/laura-bush-wants-you-to-know-that-when.html

A great essay on real suffering.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/25/11347/6865

Rick,

Interesting thread header. Though I'm not inclined to read a debate from them online. I can only imagine the noice (in written form) would be.

Three great comments in a row from the excellent thread at:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003097.php

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I'm NOT KIDDING when I ask: How blithering does a testifying witness have to be before one of the senators asks, "Sir, are you on drugs?" and then backs it up with an immediate urine test?

After all, thanks to people like Gonzales, half of us citizens with "normal" jobs face that as part of OUR employment.

Posted by: just john
Date: April 25, 2007 01:35 PM

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Gonzales, and all the other Rethugs who have been unmasked so far, remind me of playground bullies -- "Huh?? I'm not doin' nothin'! Well, I ain't doin' nothin' *wrong*! I dunno what I was doin' -- I can't remember nothin'! What do ya mean, I'm gettin' expelled? What for?"

Outraged innocence or unresponsive evasion.

Code = meat
Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: April 25, 2007 01:37 PM

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Perhaps these kind men could suggest that they would be willing to provide a simple shot of sodium pentethol to "help" him refresh his failing memory.

I bet he would find so many, many lost memories in the huge, blank cavities of his addled brain.

Or, perhaps a lie-detector test would help Gonzo "identify" which answers of "I can't recall" are true, and those which his sub-conscious mind know to be false, i.e. lies.

PEACE

code word: porter, as in carrying the baggage
Posted by: Spencer's Mom
Date: April 25, 2007 01:40 PM

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sorry senators I can't testify today because I have a bad head code,
Otter

MONKEY ALERT! MONKEY ALERT!

*Extremely* way-cool live music event tonight, by one of the very best regional not-yet-major-label bands I have ever known bar none, per this email I got today:

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Hear Big Leg Emma live tonight from the Pour House in Charleston, SC!

Go to http://www.charlestoncrystalball.com/cams/?l=pourhouse
to hear the show. Opening for the band will be BLE's former guitar player Kev Rowe. Podcast starts at 9:30pm till 2am. We had a GREAT time with this last night and I expect the same tonight.

Don't miss it!

Amanda Lynn,
Big Leg Emma

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Big Leg Emma is da sirius shizzle just google around for live recs of their gigs and you'll see (hear) that I am right about this and besides they don't like Shrub any more than we do so they must be cool,
Otter

This Kos diary has links to recent subpoenas.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/25/13220/6403

Sparrow
I'm hoping the debate will be in a visual form, though on-line, rather than a transcript that has to be read. The questions would probably have to be in text form, unless bloggers had a way to upload them in a visual form such as mP4 or something. They didn't flesh things out with detail yet but the techie magazines were abuzz with this so hopefully some innovations will be premiered.

from Astro:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x24640

It's a video...

Basically.... Dana Perino said that never ever ever has anyone in the WH called the dems 'unpatriotic' in re to the iraq war debate. NEVER. Josh is holding a contest (mugs, t-shirts as prizes) for links to videos or quotes where, indeed, the WH has called dems unpatriotic.

Should be FUN! More innovative use of new technologies!

Dana Perino, aka "Spokesperson Barbie," may yet turn out to be one of the biggest factors in finally sinking this White House's floundering life raft after all. Her unintended ability to accidentally speak truth while attempting to dissemble is one of her most endearing charms, at least as far as the tell-the-damn-truth-already crowd is concerned. I'm already one of her biggest fans just because of that; but at the rate she's going now, though, I may have to start sending her marriage proposals by email.

Top diary right now. David Brock's diary on O'Reilly, Limbaugh, others go after Media Matters

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/25/131925/060

(Followup to an earlier OT comment)

http://www.myspace.com/biglegemma

keep on rockin' in the free world,
Otter

Otter,

She slips out the truth so often we should wonder if she thinks she's really helping pResident Bush and his co-criminals.

(But are you sure you want to marry her even if she does look like Barbie? If she said "Yes" then people would say, "That proves she lacks good judgement." And if she says "No" then people will say the same, "That proves she lacks good judgement."

It's a no winner!

otter... will do!

check out VH1 Classic right now if ya got it... Elvis Costello & Friends, LIVE...

1 week to Nawlins

http://tinyurl.com/2pb4w2

sparrow:

Good point.

Laura Bush on Iraq: 'No one suffers more than their president and I do'
by Ron Brynaert
Published: Wednesday April 25, 2007

According to the first lady, when it comes to Iraq, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."

During an interview on NBC's Today show Wednesday concerning Malaria Awareness Day, Laura Bush talked to Ann Curry about "other challenges her husband is facing."

"You know the American people are suffering watching --," Curry said to the first lady.

"Oh, I know that very much," Laura Bush responded. "And believe me, no one suffers more than their president and I do when we watch this, and certainly the commander in chief, who has asked our military to go into harm's way."

Curry then asked, "What do you think the American public need to know about your husband?"

"Well, I hope they do know the burden, the worry that's on his shoulders every single day for our troops," Bush said. "And I think they do. I mean, I think if they don't, they're not seeing what the real responsibilities of our president are."

The first lady admitted that "it's absolutely hard" to watch her husband "in this."

"I know that what's also hard for you now is watching the real strain that your attorney general is going through," Curry said. "I know that he's a good friend of yours and has been for many years."

Laura Bush said that not only was Gonzales "a very good friend" but that also "been a very good attorney general."

"One other thing that I want to say is that nothing was done that was wrong," Laura Bush added. "Maybe there was -- it was not communicated very well. But actually, what the Justice Department did with the firing of U.S. attorneys is within the purview and the authority of both the Justice Department and the president."

Curry asked, "And if he loses his job as a result of this, if he must resign?"

"Well, I'll be very disappointed and sad," Bush said. "And it'll be a loss for the United States, I think."

more...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Laura_Bush_No_one_suffers_more_0425.html

"their" president? "our" president?

Why not just say "pastor" already.

... and is Laura an attorney now?

Posted by: monkey at April 25, 2007 05:14 PM

Sheesh. She's just as delusional as her husband/president. But then, I'm not surprised. It's hard work trying to keep that bubble from bursting.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/oversight-committee-approves-for-rnc-and-condi-rice/
Oversight Committee approves for RNC and Condi Rice

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/daily-show-now-bush-vs-old-bush-on-timetables/
Daily Show: Now Bush vs. Old Bush on Timetables

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/senator-mccain-on-the-daily-show/
Stewart and McCain debate Iraq on The Daily Show: It gets heated….

{{{This is why so many people get their "primary news" from the likes of Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann and Stephen Colbert, et al. They blow apart the hype with logic, and in so doing it becomes humor, even if the topics are not particularly funny. Still, it the logic and satire exposes the hype and lies for what they are, and that is a good thing for all of us.}}}

REMINDER: Bill Moyers' Journal is on tonight on PBS. Check your local PBS station for time.

Also, in case you missed it, this article was forwarded to me without a link, but I found two sources for it. It's longish, nothing we don't already know, but still interesting.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/ten-steps-to-close-down-a_b_46695.html
Naomi Wolf
Ten Steps To Close Down an Open Society

When Rudolph Giuliani was Mayor, he forbid any New York City employee from enquiring about the immigration status of anyone they might come into contact with in an official capacity. This policy was put into effect in the aftermath of the first World Trade Center bombing.

Now, the architect of the ultimate open door, terrorist friendly policy is claiming that the nation would at greater risk if a Democrat were to win the Presidency in 2008.

How could this be?

The most devastating attack on American soil took place while Republicans - I repeat, Republicans - controlled both Gracie Mansion and the White House. And if one of New York's Finest had encountered one of the 9/11 terrorists, and become suspicious, Giuliani's own policy would made it impossible for that officer to even inquire if they if they were here legally.

Talk about your pot calling the kettle black...

Matthew Carnicelli
I also think foreign policy was generally suspect as well, being based on belligerence and paranoia. If Giuliani supports the same party that has that bad record, he's part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Who knows if we would have even had the same terror attacks or ended up at war if not for that group.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/04/25/on_journalism_and_democracy.php

On Journalism And Democracy

Giuliani helped shove discredited criminal & all-around skankweasel Bernie Kerik down the throats of the Iraqi police forces, not to mention the American public. He should be indicted, not elected. (Giuliani, that is -- Kerik's own indictments are already in play.)

Iraq War: Tell us the truth
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD

Whatever paper-thin shred of credibility the Bush administration had regarding the Iraq war is fast disappearing. It's not just the mistakes and mishandling of vital matters (say, national security). It's the lies it smears upon other lies, laying it on so thick it's practically choking itself. Here's what came out in just one day's worth of news:

On the one hand, it was reported on Wednesday that the Iraqi government is withholding casualty figures from the United Nations because it feared they would "undermine the coalition's security efforts." That's double-speak for, "The U.S. government doesn't want us to reveal its failures in the midst of a big war-fund campaign." The U.N.'s report indicates that rates of civilian casualties and sectarian violence in Baghdad remain high.

On the other hand, we (finally) have the truth behind the 2004 death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, who was killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan. It's come out that the military lied about his death, time and time again, using him as a hero at a time when its credibility -- there's that word again -- was being questioned as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal came to light. The most compelling words spoken in the congressional hearing on Tillman's death were probably spoken by former Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch, who was held up as the GI Barbie hero to Tillman's all-American square-jawed martyr after her convoy was ambushed in Iraq in 2003. Her rescue was delayed by a day until the cameras arrived to film it. "American people are capable of determining their own ideals of heroes and they don't need to be told elaborate lies," Lynch said. Here, here. Tell us the truth. We can handle it.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/313032_casualtyed.html
EDITORIAL

Americans siding with Dems against Bush
NBC/WSJ poll: Skepticism on Iraq policies reflected in 2008 candidates

WASHINGTON - As the Democrat-controlled Congress and the White House clash over an Iraq spending bill, with President Bush vowing to veto it because it contains withdrawal deadlines, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that a solid majority of Americans side with the Democrats.

In addition, a nearly equal number believe that victory in Iraq isn't possible, and about only one in eight think the war has improved in the three months since Bush called for a troop increase there.

"They don't see the surge working," says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Neil Newhouse. Instead, they are saying "we need to get out."

-snip-

In favor of a troop deadline
The poll — which was taken of 1,004 adults from April 20-23, and which has an overall margin of error of 3.1 percentage points — comes as Congress considers an supplemental spending bill that would begin withdrawing troops from Iraq no later than Oct. 1, with the goal of having all combat troops leave by March 2008. The legislation hits the House floor on Wednesday, and heads to the Senate on Thursday.

Bush opposes the bill and has threatened to veto it. "They know I'm going to veto a bill containing these provisions, and they know that my veto will be sustained," the president said on Tuesday. "But instead of fashioning a bill I could sign, the Democratic leaders chose to further delay funding our troops, and they chose to make a political statement. That's their right. But it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for our country."

Yet the poll shows that 56 percent say they agree more with the Democrats in Congress who want to set a deadline for troop withdrawal, versus the 37 percent who say they agree with Bush that there shouldn't be a deadline.

more...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18312789/

hey, anyone hear from our ragin cajun of late?

Keith Olbermann *totally* ripping Giuliani a much-deserved new one:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/

A staffer in Harry Reid's office says he is receiving lots of hate mail from wingnuts and precious little support from citizens who support his efforts to hold BushCo's feet to the fire. So why not write, call or email his office and show him how much you appreciate his having a backbone on our behalf?

Sen. Harry Reid
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-3542 / Fax: 202-224-7327

Email form (and no, you don't have to be from Nevada to use it):

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/email_form.cfm

This speech (edited) delivered in Washington this week to the World Presidents Organisation was given by Kim Beazley, Australia's ex leader of the opposition. He makes some valid, interesting and positive points in the speech. The view of America across the world is negative right now, but America's true status could be easily restored.

End of the speech ....
"But Kennan's account of Soviet power was only one half of the message of his article. One of the elements of a successful long-term foundation for America's role in the world is Kennan's recognition of the limits of military force, and the primacy of America's other, deeper sources of strength — its vibrant economy, its immense creativity, its generosity of spirit, its support for a just and stable international order, its tolerance of diversity abroad as well as at home, and its commitment to freedom. These are the true sources of American power and remain the essential foundations for stability and security this century."

Whole article at. .....
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-limits-of-us-power/2007/04/25/1177459782563.html

hey, anyone hear from our ragin cajun of late?

Posted by: monkey at April 25, 2007 09:05 PM

I thought you were watching him... Uh oh...

Keith Olbermann *totally* ripping Giuliani a much-deserved new one:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/

Posted by: Otter at April 25, 2007 09:26 PM

Oh my! All of our politicians will get this one today. Thanks.

I hope you all caught Bill Moyers' Journal. It was a wonderful piece... or else I'm just amazed it was even on, given the amount of pure crapola that has come out of Lamestream Media.

Mountain and Pacific time zones should still be able to catch the show.

I highly recommend it.

Also, Bill Moyers' Journal is now going to be a regular show on Friday nights on PBS. The first guest for the first regular show will be Jon Stewart of The Daily Show....

Am watching it now, Nonny, the local PBS station carries it starting at 10 pm. It's good stuff. And, in passing, just hearing his voice during one of the news snippets quoted on the Moyers show reminded me how very much I really do miss Aaron Brown... *sigh*

Boy howdy, though, hearing Bill Moyers' accent also just makes me homesick as all get-out... *sigh redux*

BILL MOYERS "BUYING THE WAR"

FIRST SEGMENT:

THE PHONY PRESS CONFERENCE BEFORE THE WAR -

March 2003 Bush holds a completely scripted press conference. No difficult questions were asked. The reporters were selected in advance which were going to be called upon, in a written order...

Here is the link to the Moyers program:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html

Moyers is slamming the mainstream media and the Bushies....

I watched a small portion, Moyers is on a roll!

The Moyers show was depressing. It's outrageous that those writers from Knight Ridder tried to report the story accurately, and no one would listen.

The press apologists for this war had a reponsibility to step up and face the music for the national disaster they helped set in motion. But only Beinert had the courage to talk to Moyers.

Human Potential Left was always on the right side of this story:

http://www.hpleft.com/031803.html
http://www.hpleft.com/031703E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/031403E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/031303E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/030403E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/030103E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/022503E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/021903E1.html
http://www.hpleft.com/021503E1.html

Top general says Iraqi sectarian murders are down
April 26, 2007

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, told reporters that sectarian murders in Baghdad have been reduced by about one-third since the beginning of the year.

"That is an important development, because sectarian murders can be a cancer in a neighborhood," he said after separate briefings in the Senate and House on Wednesday.

In addition, "progress in Anbar is something that is breathtaking," he said of the vast Sunni-dominated province where many U.S. troop deaths have occurred, including one Monday.

Huge inroads have been made, he said, in regard to learning a "great deal more" of the "nefarious" Iranian involvement in the war in Iraq. He did not elaborate on whether he meant the Iranian government or outside factions.

In other areas, such as car bomb networks, the general said, "we have work to do."

Indeed, attackers in Iraq killed at least nine people Wednesday: four in a suicide attack in Diyala province and five in scattered incidents in the Baghdad area, including a chlorine truck bombing.

Additionally, 17 unidentified bodies were found across Baghdad, according to an Interior Ministry official.

Paraphrasing Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Petraeus said that "al Qaeda in Iraq has declared war on all Iraqis." Attacks have been made on Iraqi Kurds, Sunnis, Shiites -- "no one has been outside their cross hairs," he said.

After listening to Petraeus, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said he thinks the fight in Iraq is not against al Qaeda but is "a virulent sectarian battle against various factions within the Iraq populace that has not been brought under control by the Iraqis themselves."

more...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/25/petraeus.briefing/index.html

Breathtaking...

Sorry Otter, but bad theatre en route...

Tony Snow to return to White House post next week

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- White House Press Secretary Tony Snow revealed to CNN he plans to return to his post next week, a month after a cancerous growth was found on his liver.

"I'm expecting to be back Monday," Snow said in a telephone interview, adding that he only needs one final sign-off from his doctor.

Snow said he is scheduled to start chemotherapy next Friday and will "dial back" on his workload if the treatments get difficult. But Snow said he's confident he can balance everything because he withstood six months of chemotherapy after he was first diagnosed with colon cancer in 2005 -- and at the time was still able to work six days a week as a commentator for Fox News radio and television.

The White House announced March 27 that Snow's cancer had returned and spread to his liver and elsewhere in his body, which elevated White House Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino into Snow's job on an acting basis.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/04/tony-snow-to-return-to-white-house-post.html

April 26, 2007
NY Times Editorial
Another Dubious Firing

Congressman Rick Renzi, an Arizona Republican, was locked in a close re-election battle last fall when the local United States attorney, Paul Charlton, was investigating him for corruption. The investigation appears to have been slowed before Election Day, Mr. Renzi retained his seat, and Mr. Charlton ended up out of a job — one of eight prosecutors purged by the White House and the Justice Department.

The Arizona case adds a disturbing new chapter to that scandal. Congress needs to determine whether Mr. Charlton was fired for any reason other than threatening the Republican Party’s hold on a Congressional seat.

Mr. Renzi was fighting for his political life when the local press reported that he was facing indictment for a suspect land deal. According to The Wall Street Journal, federal investigators met unexpected resistance from the Justice Department in getting approval to proceed and, perhaps as a result, the investigation was pushed past the election.

Mr. Renzi’s top aide, Brian Murray, admitted this week that when reports surfaced that his boss was being investigated, he had called Mr. Charlton’s office asking for information. Mr. Charlton’s office did the right thing, according to Mr. Murray’s account: it refused to comment. Weeks later, Mr. Charlton was fired.

- more -

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/opinion/26thu1.html

Posted by: monkey at April 26, 2007 08:12 AM

Oh yeah?

Iraq won't give U.N. civilian death toll

Baghdad // The Iraqi government has refused to provide the United Nations with civilian casualty figures for the world body's latest report on the hardships endured by Iraqis, the United Nations said yesterday, but numbers from Iraqi ministries indicate that more than 5,500 people died in the Baghdad area in the first three months of this year.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/iraq/bal-te.iraq26apr26,0,1381171.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines

Optimistic Iraq report omits bombs killing civilians
Civilian casualties are down, but critics say excluded deaths skewed the evidence.
W ASHINGTON | Officials who say there has been a dramatic drop in sectarian violence in Iraq since President Bush began sending more troops into Baghdad aren’t counting a main killer of civilians.

Car bombs and other explosive devices have killed thousands of Iraqis in the last three years, but the administration doesn’t include them in the casualty counts it has been citing as evidence that the surge of additional U.S. forces is defusing tensions between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.
http://www.kansascity.com/130/story/84066.html

UN accuses Iraq of covering up rise in civilian deaths
The UN yesterday accused the Iraqi government of trying to cover up a rise in civilian casualties from sectarian violence since the troop surge ordered by George Bush earlier this year.

Iraq's government had withheld civilian casualty statistics because it feared the data would be used to depict a "very grim" security situation, claimed the UN officials in Baghdad.

Amid growing political sensitivity to death toll figures, it also emerged yesterday that Canadian scientists had complained that the British government last week denied a transit visa to an Iraqi colleague, Riyadh Lafta, an epidemiologist and co-author of a Lancet report that had estimated the Iraqi war dead at more than 650,000. The Foreign Office said yesterday that it was investigating his case.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2065725,00.html

Posted by: madame defarge at April 26, 2007 08:28 AM

Breathtaking deathmaking.

Article in the likelihood of conservative voting by growing Hispanic "charismatic" (Protestant evangelical) movement
http://www.mercurynews.com/lifeandstyleheadlines/ci_5754012
Ally, you warned us!

http://www.mercurynews.com/lifeandstyleheadlines/ci_5754012

Riverbend has posted again, finally. She talks about the wall:

"The wall, of course, will protect no one. I sometimes wonder if this is how the concentration camps began in Europe. The Nazi government probably said, "Oh look- we're just going to protect the Jews with this little wall here- it will be difficult for people to get into their special area to hurt them!" And yet, it will also be difficult to get out.

The Wall is the latest effort to further break Iraqi society apart. Promoting and supporting civil war isn't enough, apparently- Iraqis have generally proven to be more tenacious and tolerant than their mullahs, ayatollahs, and Vichy leaders. It's time for America to physically divide and conquer- like Berlin before the wall came down or Palestine today. This way, they can continue chasing Sunnis out of "Shia areas" and Shia out of "Sunni areas"."

Also, she & her family are leaving Iraq...

"On a personal note, we've finally decided to leave. I guess I've known we would be leaving for a while now. We discussed it as a family dozens of times. At first, someone would suggest it tentatively because, it was just a preposterous idea- leaving ones home and extended family- leaving ones country- and to what? To where?"

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

In case you missed TDS the night Jon Stewart showed the lame MSM interviewers how to ask real questions, here is the link to his interview with McBush... It's truly worth watching.

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml

U.S. prison chief in Iraq charged with 'aiding enemy'

April 26, 2007

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. Army officer who was commander of a military prison in Iraq has been charged with giving a cell phone to suspected insurgents who were detained there, a charge described as "aiding the enemy," according to the U.S. military.

Lt. Col. William H. Steele, who was commander of the U.S. Army's Camp Cropper, also was charged with having an improper relationship with a detainee's daughter and an interpreter and possessing pornography, the military said.

Camp Cropper, located near Baghdad International Airport, houses thousands of suspected insurgent detainees and some high profile prisoners. Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was held there until he was hanged last December.

Steele was arrested last month and confined in a military jail in Kuwait while he awaits an Article 32 hearing, the military equivalent of a grand jury hearing, according to U.S. military spokeswoman Lt. Col. Josslyn Aberle.

The four charges also accuse Steele of possessing and mishandling classified information, disobeying an order, and not doing his duty in the approval of funds, according to the U.S. military.

The military gave few specifics about the charges. The first one said that Steele "did, between on or about 1 October 2005 and 31 October 2006, aid the enemy by providing an unmonitored cellular phone to detainees." It gave no specifics about the number or identity of the detainees involved.

The second charge accused Steele of "having unauthorized possession of classified information" and "knowingly and willfully retaining the same and failing to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States."

Charge three suggested that Steele carried on improper relationships with Iraqis, interactions that were deemed "conduct unbecoming an officer in the armed forces." Specifically, it said that on two dates in October 2005 and February 2007, Steele did "wrongfully fraternize with the daughter of a detainee."

more...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/26/officer.charged/index.html

is there a monkey in the house who wants to chat?

Is there a monkey on the coast who wants to rock?

Looking at their MySpace page, I see that my rockin' neighbors Big Leg Emma is playing three shows within pitchin' distance of the monkeyhouse the next three nights running: http://www.myspace.com/biglegemma

monkeydood -- you just got to go there, dig that, then come back and review the performance for us here, k?

emma one emma two emma three,
Otter

BTW -- here's a little linky for those of you who still remember that we need to jump in and support those fightin' Dems who stand up for us against the surgeheads:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-kerry/standing-with-harry-reid_b_46910.html

Top U.S. commander: Iraq war may get tougher
Petraeus calls situation ‘the most complex, challenging I have ever seen’

WASHINGTON (AP) - Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, depicted the situation there as “exceedingly complex and very tough” Thursday and said the U.S. effort might become more difficult before before it gets easier.

The four-star general called the war there “the most complex and challenging I have ever seen.”

He said there have been some improvements in the two months since President Bush’s troop buildup began, but “there is vastly more work to be done across the board. ... We are just getting started with the new effort.”

more...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18329437/

Rice signals rejection of House subpoena
Says she's already answered questions; hints at use of executive privilege

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday she has already answered the questions she has been subpoenaed to answer before a congressional committee and suggested she is not inclined to comply with the order.

Rice said she would respond by mail to questions from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on the Bush administration's prewar claims about Saddam Hussein seeking weapons of mass destruction, but signaled she would not appear in person.

"I am more than happy to answer them again in a letter," she told reporters in Oslo, where she is attending a meeting of NATO foreign ministers.

more...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18328266/

What a coinkydink...Calexico is playing on my satellite station... Nice. Very nice.

Posted by: madame defarge at April 26, 2007 01:44 PM

Yours Truly, Lost In Space

sputnik sez: doot doot, beep beep

I think Condi is too busy for the subpoena:

Rice gets up at 4:30 a.m. She exercises every day, no matter where in the world she is. The interview shows her in the State Department gym, sweating in ordinary workout clothes.

There's nothing diplomatic about it, really. As her boss, President Bush, might say, it's hard work.

At one point, Rice is on a mat, isolating her abdominal muscles, listening as her ex-Marine trainer tells her to find the right balance. Apparently, Rice knows all about that.

"When I'm on the road, I absolutely schedule time to get up in the morning and exercise first," Rice said in the interview, fresh off a tiring trip to the Middle East.

http://www.socialimage.net/2006_03_02_associated_press.html

Condi is a truly inspiring role model of fitness and determination. I want to be just like her when I grow up.

Is that a subpoena in your pocket, or are you just happy to seize me?

Just checkin' in from the end-of-semester madness and laughing at the posts. Thank god for all of you.

We need the music, the laughs, the perspective, and each other.

If only Condi could exersize as much control over her lying lips as she can over her abdominal muscles.

(Tighten the lips Condi before the lie sneaks out.)

Oh, suz, if you only understood how perverse minds could take what you typed and run with it from there...

/me thwaps himself with a large trout for even contemplating the possibilities -- bad otter, no fishsticks!

THE WORD OF THE WEEK: "SURRENDER"

Any talk of timetables for withdrawal or progress in Iraq is called "surrender" by the Bushies...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070426/ap_on_el_pr/on_the2008_trail
Huckabee's son arrested with handgun
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - David Huckabee, a son of Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, was arrested at an Arkansas airport Thursday after a federal X-ray technician detected a loaded Glock pistol in his carry-on luggage.

"I removed the bag and asked Mr. Huckabee if he knew what he had in the bag," Little Rock police officer Arthur Nugent wrote in a report after being summoned to a security checkpoint. "He replied he did now."

Huckabee, 26, later pleaded guilty in Little Rock District Court after being charged with a misdemeanor count of possessing a weapon in a prohibited place.

"It was a silly mistake," Huckabee told reporters as he left the Pulaski County Jail. When asked whether it would affect his father's presidential campaign, Huckabee responded, "It shouldn't."

District Judge Lee Munson gave Huckabee a one-year suspended jail sentence and ordered him into 10 days of community service — which Huckabee can avoid by paying $100. Huckabee will be on probation for a year. Fines and costs totaled $855.

The son of the former Arkansas governor held a concealed weapons permit at the time of the incident but state police are taking steps to revoke it. The elder Huckabee, who said last week that Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho perhaps could have been stopped if a teacher or student had also been armed, also has a concealed weapons permit.

{{{More on link.}}}

Uh..chhuuuummmmm...Otter...

To think I was going to say, "BITE DOWN before the lie escapes."

But...fishsticks flying your way, Otter! Better duck n run!

Posted by: sparrow at April 26, 2007 05:00 PM
Posted by: Otter at April 26, 2007 05:40 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH....!
Dang near choking with laughter! :-)

Anybody hear Condi refer today to the "Soviet" missile defense? I just heard her use that word on the clip that the Newshour used.

I've heard of people fighting the last war, rather than the current war, but never in such overtly Freudian fashion.

http://www.pbs.org/now/index.html#poll

If the war spending bill is vetoed as promised, who should bear the most blame for its failure?

President Bush 55%
Congress 11%
Both 22%
Not Sure 11%

And on a sad note....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070426/ap_en_ot/obit_pickett

`Monster Mash' singer Pickett dies at 69

Bobby "Boris" Pickett, whose dead-on Boris Karloff impression propelled the Halloween anthem to the top of the charts in 1962, making him one of pop music's most enduring one-hit wonders, has died of leukemia. He was 69.

{More on link.}

looking at Condi's WH bio:

Looks like she is stuck in the '80s in her mind .. the era of reunification of Germany,
the Gorbachev era, and the Soviet Union imploding.

Then there must have been a gap during when she was on Bd of Directors for Chevron and Charles Schwab and so forth, when she mostly practiced piano, worked out, and counted her money.

She is one of many stuck in the Reagan era.

Laura Bush wants us to know that they are suffering.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/04/laura-bush-wants-you-to-know-that-when.html

Posted by: sparrow at April 25, 2007 02:09 PM

Yeah, looks like he's suffering, alright. (Forgive me if someone has already posted this shot of Bush dancing and playing the drums at the Malaria conference.) I think those watching suffered more than he did.

javascript:cnnPlayListVideo('/video/bestoftv/2007/04/26/cooper.shot.bush.dancing

Suffer? Send your kids to Iraq, Mr. President.

(Still irks me that he wouldn't even slow down and stop to talk to Cindy Sheehan a year and a half ago outside Crawford, TX.)

Today they said on a television news program (didn't see which one, was rushing around house, that Al Qaeda was behind the "hit" on Cheney in Iraq. Someone else said no, it wasn't Al Qaeda, it was the Taliban.

In either case, be vewwwy vewwwy afwaid.

Posted by: Matthew Carnicelli at April 26, 2007 06:08 PM

---

Well, ya know, Matt, when it comes to the whole past-is-prologue thing, Condi is very much a student of hystery.

Posted by: Matthew Carnicelli at April 25, 2007 07:51 PM

I could be wrong, but I don't think we have to worry about Giulliani. He is too far left for the conservative base. I still expect someone to come in yet to the right of Giulliani.

Someone groomed, but kept incognito for now.

Thread header very exciting news, DiAnne.

Hope I can take part.

Have you guys been watching the Democratic presidential candidates debate tonight? I have. And while there are certain drawbacks to the format -- not enough time x too many people = incomplete answers -- I must say that it's been a fascinating opportunity to view the 8 Dem candidates in their native habitats & study the important intangibles (dress, comportment, body language, tone of voice, ability to think fast, etc.) -- extremely illuminative. I've been surprised by a few of them, in a positive way that is.

Mike Gravel is like the angry old guy down the block with the shotgun.

Joe Biden just made an essential point about the need to drop the diabolical duo of regime change and preemption.

Kucinich disagreed with Obama that it was reasonable for lawmakers to pay for a war if they disagreed with it.

“I think it’s inconsistent to tell the American people you oppose the war but you vote to fund it,” he said. “The Democrats have the power to end the war right now, and that’s what they should do.”

Gravel called on Congress to pass a law making it a felony to keep troops in Iraq, charging that “this war in Iraq was lost the second George W. Bush invaded Iraq under a fraudulent basis.”

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson essentially agreed, saying bluntly that “this war is a disaster; we must end this war” and saying that if he were president, he would withdraw all U.S. troops by the end of the calendar year.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18326264/

So Otter, who is surprising you? Cyrano, Joe can be impressive, but then he seems error-prone too.

where is the debate being shown?

MSNBC

For example... Hillary needs to fire her fashion consultants. She's in a stern drab gray suit with a pearl choker and coupled with her too-stern facial expressions that makes her look like Cotton Mather. Obama has great posture and a really great tie. Edwards, astonishingly enough, has a great haircut but his facial expressions make him seem more natural & at ease than many of the others do. Kucinich is coming across as very thoughtful, prepared, & extremely relevant. Biden is coming across quite well, as is Bill Richardson. Dodd seems very solid, well worthy of his place on the stage. Senator Gravel seems like the requisite huh? say wha? representative of the old school fuddy-duddy type of politician, definitely not a 21st century guy.

My shallow surface impressions of them is that Hillary seems very arrogant, hectoring, pedantic. Edwards & Obama both seem like very viable candidates for President, I'm glad they're both running, that makes it a good race for the roses. I'm also glad Dodd & Biden are in the Senate and I hope they both will continue to be influential there. Richardson would make a very good cabinet officer. Kucinich is much more real & definitely more salient than his characterizations in the field might indicate. And Mike Gravel needs to retire at the end of his current term.

That's just one otter's opinion, though. Your Mileage May Very.

Debate — Kucinich: ‘War on terrorism has been a pretext for aggressive war’

Kucinich is unfortunately ahead of his time.

Ok, thanks, it's loading

I dont know if he's ahead of his time or not, but as the threadhead said, he's just not good looking/marketable enough to be president.

He's been correct... a lot.

No candidate who actually advocates Christ's policies can be elected President in America today. So much for America being a Christian country.

As scripture tells us, blessed are the war makers, for they are the children of Cheney.

OK, Biden just went up in my opinion. A short answer.

I've heard of people fighting the last war, rather than the current war, but never in such overtly Freudian fashion.

Posted by: Matthew Carnicelli at April 26, 2007 06:08 PM

LOL

Condi spends a lot of time with her husband...err... the president...

Candidate preference aside, this comment today from Obama regarding the senate vote today on Iraqi withdrawal is excellent framing:

"We are one signature away from ending the Iraq War. President Bush must listen to the will of the American people and sign this bill so that our troops can come home."

No candidate who actually advocates Christ's policies can be elected President in America today. So much for America being a Christian country.

Posted by: Cyrano at April 26, 2007 08:22 PM

I was on a Navy base today, and piled up on one corner were "your daily bread" in Zip-loc bags. I took a look - copies of the New Testament inside.

Our military is being turned into a whole bunch of Crusaders.

Michigan Congressman's aide is in trouble with the law

Derek Wallbank
Lansing State Journal

LANSING — Charles "Tony" Baltimore, a senior staff member in Congressman Mike Rogers' Lansing office, was arrested on domestic violence charges, Lansing Police and court administrators said today.

Baltimore was arrested late Saturday night at a downtown Lansing club after what police described as an "altercation with a female companion".

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A former U.S. spy chief accused President Bush's administration of ruining his reputation by misusing a "slam dunk" comment he made during a White House meeting ahead of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

Former CIA Director George Tenet told CBS Television's "60 Minutes" that the administration leaked his comment as opposition to the war grew when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq.

"You don't do this. You don't throw somebody overboard just because it's a deflection. Is that honorable? It's not honorable to me," Tenet said in an interview to be broadcast Sunday.

Tenet said his comment did not refer to whether Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but related to what information could be used to make a public case for the war.

The "slam-dunk" comment first surfaced in journalist Bob Woodward's 2004 book, "Plan of Attack," which portrayed Tenet as assuring Bush that finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq would be a virtual certainty.

"We can put a better case together for a public case. That's what I meant," Tenet told "60 Minutes."

"I'll never believe that what happened that day informed the president's view or belief of the legitimacy or the timing of this war. Never!" said Tenet, whose memoirs "At the Center of the Storm" are due to be published next week.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said she had not seen the book and would not comment on it.

The expression "slam dunk," used originally to describe a basketball move, has come to mean something that can be done with near certainty.

The 2003 Iraq invasion was justified largely by intelligence that Hussein had such weapons. No such weapons were found, and the prewar intelligence effort has since been condemned by a presidential commission as one of the most damaging failures in recent U.S. history.

Tenet, who served under Bush and former President Bill Clinton, resigned in July 2004 amid widespread criticism over intelligence lapses that also involved the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington. Tenet had been appointed in 1997.

Tenet -- whom Bush awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest U.S. civilian award, in December 2004 -- said he does not know exactly who leaked his comment, but that "it's the most despicable thing that ever happened to me."

He said the most difficult part was continuing to hear senior administration officials such as Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice refer to his comment as though they had to hear him "say 'slam dunk' to go to war with Iraq."

"You listen to that and they never let it go. I mean, I became campaign talk. I was a talking point. 'Look at the idiot (who) told us and we decided to go to war.' Well, let's not be so disingenuous," Tenet said.

"Let's everybody just get up and tell the truth. Tell the American people what really happened," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/26/tenet.slam.dunk.reut/index.html

Heard the Italian investigative reporter who cracked the case about Italian collaborators who helped get us into the Iraq war by providing fraudulent evidence; Berlusconi wanted Bush to like him. He's out, Bush is on the way out, so is Blair. The 3 B's of the apocalypse. Should be on http://www.npr.org under "Fresh Air."

Oh God - heard Mitch McConnell on the drive home. Couldn't count how many times he used the word "surrender" with respect to the Iraq bill in the Senate. He also repeatedly made the connection between 9/11 and Iraq and blathered on about how we haven't had a terrorist attack because we're fighting them over across the sea. What a warhawk embarrassing moron - didn't even hear anything that ridiculous since maybe the 1950s antiCommie paranoia when I was a kid. Can't wait til they're all gone but that'll be when we pry their cold dead hands off their weapons.

Can't really feel too sorry for Tenet but am glad if he has any whistle-blowing tendencies in his book. In the end, if anyone takes these foos down, it'll be traitors within their own ranks.

Hello every one, glad to see yall are still around.

I came back because I wanted yall to see this.

Remember the reporter that interviewed me about Faye Alines case?

I knew he was looking at me all crazy, but I wasdesperate to make him understand what has been happening. (Ever try to condense 24 years into a 30 minuteramble?)

Anyways, the story he filed at first really waswn't nothing but another summation ofv the case and I thought 'Ok, but at least he could go further if he wanted'.

Well, tonights newscast shows he not only has been doing his homework, he has completely uncovered the tip of the iceburg.

They are now calling theswath between Shreveport and Dallas THE DEAD ZONE.

Red River and Desoto Parish lay right in its center.

There are so many victims I can not keep them all straight.

How is it possible so many are missing or murdered with no justice?

My family has known the answer to that for 24 years now.

These cops protect killers. Even serial killers.

Please pass this on as much as you can, no one inside Louisiana can dare stop it unless the eyes of the entire nation are watching.

'Number of unsolved cases in the Dead Zone

By CHRIS REDFORD credford@ktbs.com
Posted on 04/26/2007

In the last ten years, dozens of women have disappeared between Houston and Shreveport. That stretch from southeast Texas to north Louisiana has been dubbed "The Dead Zone"

http://www.ktbs.com/viewnews.cfm?news_id=1378&title=Number%20of%20unsolved%20cases%20in%20the%20Dead%20Zonehttp://www.ktbs.com/viewnews.cfm?news_id=1378&title=Number%20of%20unsolved%20cases%20in%20the%20Dead%20Zone

I should add that story is more cut than the video they played. He clearly stated on the vid that the further you go back, the more of them there are.

"...are just two of many who haven't been found or have been found dead in this part of the country, some say is a "Bermuda Triangle" for females."

God help us.

Christy, I'm sorry that you came back just to share that ugly news with us but I am still glad you came back. Please do so more often. We miss your voice here.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/26/democratic-candidate-debate-obama-kucinich-and-gravel-talk-iran/
Democratic Candidate Debate: Obama, Kucinich and Gravel Talk Iran

{{{Obama sounds like Bush in his fear of ter'rists and Iran. Kucinich and Gravel had the level heads on this topic. So far, what little I've heard of Kucinich, he's the best candidate. (Dang, but I hope someone listens to Kucinich regarding IMPEACHING Cheney!!!) I'd like to hear more of what he has to say, but with Lamestream Media's infotainment grasp of 'news,' I'm sure we'll only be hearing about the top three contenders and their hair. Kucinich may not be a pretty boy like Edwards or Obama or Biden, or have the controversy of Hillary, but his brain certainly works better...!!!}}}

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/26/democratic-candidate-debategravel-some-of-these-people-frighten-me/
Democratic Candidate Debate:Gravel - “Some Of These People Frighten Me”

{{{Gravel makes perfect sense to me. The people he's talking about frighten me, too, because their rhetoric is warmed over 'fear and ter'rr' Bu$hSpeak. This is the first I've heard of Gravel.}}}

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/26/america-hates-the-iraq-war/
America hates the Iraq War: I-R-A-K
{{{DUH factor...! This news is only just NOW getting into Lamestream Media on ONE channel within the last 24 hours...?!? [pounding head on keyboard] Obviously, they've not read many progressive blogs or missed the five seconds of 'news' in the last few months regarding anti-war protesters and pro-impeachment signs they also carry....}}}

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/26/daily-show-bushs-band-of-idiot-geniuses/
Daily Show: Bush’s Band of Idiot-Geniuses
ROTFLMAO! :-)

Christy,

I know it must be so difficult for you and your family to witness these horrible crimes and then to experience the lack of justice too. My heart and thoughts are with you whether you post here or not.

I know it's been quite traumatic for all of you and each new injustice aggravates an old wound even as you're glad to see someone, anyone, taking it seriously and investigating it.

So, hang tough. All of us at the DCP have missed you and wondered where you and Rossi took off to. And just know that when you're up to it, you're welcome to come back and visit us again.

Posted by: Ally McRepuke at April 26, 2007 09:00 PM

And isn't that the problem in a nutshell (no pun intended)? Christ would have nothing to do with crusaders! When will these fools begin to confront Jesus' essential teachings, instead of humming a chorus of "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition". At least the Vatican has that part of it right.

hey, anyone hear from our ragin cajun of late?

Posted by: monkey at April 25, 2007 09:05 PM

Christy was who I was referencing... and now I know.

Not far from our thoughts...

Economic growth slowest in four years
Latest reading on gross domestic product shows 1.3% growth, far less than forecasts and weakest since '03.

April 27 2007: 8:54 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Economic growth slowed to the slowest pace in four years in the first quarter, as the government's key measure of the U.S. economy came in far weaker than expectations.

The reading showed the U.S. economy growing at an annual rate of 1.3 percent in the first three months of the year, according to the Commerce Department. The report was the initial reading on gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's economic activity

more...
http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/27/news/economy/gdp/index.htm?cnn=yes

Christy,

I was just thinking about you the other day and commented to someone else how we needed Christy back on the blog.

I'm so glad that someone is taking you and your family and the other families seriously -- that all the misdeeds and crimes are finally being uncovered.

Stay strong and stop by and say hi when you can.

Christy
Thanks for keeping on the trail of the serial killer, for your family and others. When I moved to Seattle, I was told never to carry books for a man called Ted with a broken leg. It turned out to be Ted Bundy. He stole a tv from my local mall & he hung out at a local bar.

There was another guy on the loose and he was killing young prostitutes out along the airport strip. Some of the pros joined in with local women for "Take Back the Night" marches and we'd have them speak about how the cops would be acting if it were soccer moms from the suburbs being killed. It took 25 years for the "Green River Killer" to be caught. Then the "Pig Farmer" serial killer was caught in BC and he had actually had the "Green River Killer" over.

Never stop!

MOSCOW - Mstislav Rostropovich, the ebullient master cellist who courageously fought for the rights of Soviet-era dissidents and later triumphantly played Bach suites below the crumbling Berlin Wall, has died. He was 80.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18348465/

That wacky four percent!

"A big majority, 75 percent, said recent weather had been stranger than usual, an increase of almost 10 percentage points from 1997. Of those who said the weather had turned weird, 43 percent attributed it to global warming and 15 percent to pollution or other environmental damage. Four percent cited the coming end of the world or biblical prophecy, and 2 percent blamed space junk."

- more -

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/washington/27poll.html

Posted by: Cyrano at April 27, 2007 10:13 AM

Space junk! I knew something was throwing off my weather forecasts.

Not far from our thoughts...

Posted by: monkey at April 27, 2007 08:25 AM

Many, many not far from our thoughts...

Posted by: V at April 27, 2007 10:31 AM

Cleanup, denial seven.

Christy...hang in there. There are a lot of rocks to be cleared before "justice can roll down like rivers and righteousness as a mighty stream". And don't forget, your pirate ship awaits!

I'm your Captain, yeah yeah yeah yeeeah....

sputnik sez: doot doot, beep beep

British military pretty much endorses poppies in Afghanistan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,,2067007,00.html
strange but true? doesn't the drug trade fuel the Taliban, associated with Al Quaeda? isn't that who they're fighting? I understand it's the income of ther marmers & the poppies are pretty. Why didn't someone listen to the Russian generals?

marmers .. I sound like I've gotten into the poppies .. wondering if some of the British soldiers have as well ..

When the War on Drugs becomes entangled with the War on Terror, you know things are headed south...

The Brits know about these things. As Noel Coward wrote:

They're out of sorts in Sunderland
And terribly cross in Kent
They're down in Hull
And the isle of Mall
Is seething with discontent
They're nervous in northumberland
And Devon is down the drain
They're filled with wrath on Firth of Forth
And sullen on Salisbury plain
In Dublin they're depressed lads
Maybe because they're Celts
For drake is hurrying West, lads
And so is everyone else

Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Misery is here to stay
There are bad times just around the corner
There are dark clouds hurtling through the sky
And it's no good whining
About a silver lining
For we know from experience they won't roll by
With a scowl and a frown we'll keep our peckers down
And prepare for depression and doom and dread
We're going to unpack our troubles from our old kit bag
And wait until we drop down dead

They're nervous in Nigeria
They're all going crazy in Crete
In Bucharest they're so depressed
They're frightend to cross the streets
In maine the melancholia
Is deeper than tongue can tell
In Monako all the croupiers know
They haven't a hope in hell
In far away Australia
Each wallaby is well aware
The world's a total failure
Without any time to spare

Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Suffering and dismay
There are bad times just around the corner
The horizon is gloomy as can be
There are black birds over
The greyish cliffs of Dover
And the rats are preparing to leave the BBC
We're unhappy breed and very bored indeed
When reminded of something that Nelson said
While the press and the politicians nag, nag, nag
We'll wait until we drop down dead

There are bad times just around the corner
And the outlook's absolutely vile
There are home fires smoking from Windermere to Woking
And we're not going to tighten our belt and
Smile Smile Smile
At the sound of shots
We'd just as soon as not
Get a hot water bottle and go to bed
We're going to unpack our troubles from our old kit bag
And wait until we drop down dead
I like your story
Land of Hope and Glory
Wait until we drop down dead

... and what is Dubya's fathers nickname?

Totally OT ... here's your belly laugh for the day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY

The musicians among us should appreciate it.