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Ralpheh said:

HILLARY NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE N.I.E. ??

Very frustrated that Hillary Clinton is, apparently, the Dem. front-runner, I have been thinking about her admission that she didn't bother to read the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq before voting to authorize the use of force. (this admission itself should disqualify Hillary from being president...)

Hillary's lame excuse:

She was briefed by "experts" and thus didn't have to read the NIE report

1) I don't believe this talking point

2) Let us say that Hillary's statement is true and let us project into the future that some enterprising journalist (or Republican opposition researcher) decides to look at Hillary's talking point in greater depth and ask the next logical question: who were the "experts" that Hillary talked to?

It is frankly to me, unbelievable, that HIllary didn't have access to much more information about Iraq from her hubby, Bill, who could have told HIllary ALL ABOUT the Project for a New American Century. (Actually, for the enterprising journalist, this would be yet another probing and interesting question to ask Hillary: "Did you consult with Bill Clinton on Iraq's WMD and your vote."

Bottomline - I don't think Hillary is telling the truth about her vote....

Ralpheh
Well Robert Byrd doesn't sign anything he hasn't read and he carries a copy of the Constitution in his pocket.

NonnyO said:

David Bacon | Iraq's Workers Strike to Keep Their Oil
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060907A.shtml
"The Bush administration has no love for unions anywhere, but in Iraq it has a special reason for hating them. They are the main opposition to the occupation's economic agenda, and the biggest obstacle to that agenda's centerpiece - the privatization of Iraq's oil," says David Bacon. "This week, Iraqi anger over starvation incomes and oil ripoffs boiled over."

Excerpt (more on link):

Holding a no-bid, sweetheart contract with occupation authorities, Halliburton Corporation came into Iraq in the wake of the troops in 2003. The company tried to seize control of the wells and rigs, withholding reconstruction aid to force workers to submit. The oil union struck for three days that August, stopping exports and cutting off government revenue. Halliburton left.

The oil and port unions then forced foreign corporations to give up similar sweetheart agreements in Iraq's deepwater shipping facilities. Muhsin's electrical union is still battling to stop subcontracting in the power stations - a prelude to corporate control.

The occupation has always had an economic agenda. Occupation czar Paul Bremer published lists in Baghdad newspapers of the public enterprises he intended to auction off. Arab labor leader Hacene Djemam bitterly observed, "War makes privatization easy: first you destroy society; then you let the corporations rebuild it."

The Bush administration won't leave Iraq in part because that economic agenda is still insecure. Under Washington's guidance, the Iraqi government wrote a new oil law in secret. The Iraq study commission, headed by oilman James Baker, called it the key to ending the occupation.

That law is touted in the US press as ensuring an equitable division of oil wealth. Iraqi unions say it will ensure that foreign corporations control future exploration and development, in one of the world's largest reserves.

{{{This, I presume, is why all the neoCons and even Dem candidates still tout their imperialist agenda regarding imposing democracy and freedom in Iraq (at the point of a gun) and still yap about 'ter'rists' and 'terrorist threats,' language straight out of Georgie's and Dickie's and Turd Blossom's playbook (and Dems are just as much in the back pockets of corporations as neoCons, and we all know it). Let's see... the proposal on the table is for Iraqi citizens to vote in favor of the US dictated constitution that has a provision to turn over future Iraqi financial security and freedom (via oil beneath their sands) in exchange for the majority of US troops leaving (but permanent bases are being built in Iraq and the embassy is still the largest fortified embassy in the world, so there would still be a US military presence there until the last drop of oil was stolen from the Iraqi citizens). Hmmmmmmmm.... What would you choose, my friends, in that no-win blackmail situation if the same thing were happening in this country...?}}}

NonnyO said:

The Bandar Cover-Up: Who Knew What, and When?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060907E.shtml
The British government was last night fighting to contain the fallout over payments to a Saudi prince as the attorney general came under renewed pressure to explain how much he knew about the affair.

{{{Is this the same Prince Bandar who was 'affectionately' dubbed Bandar Bush by the Bush (crime) family...???}}}

Bob Herbert | School to Prison Pipeline
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060907C.shtml
"The latest news-as-entertainment spectacular is the Paris Hilton criminal justice fiasco. She's in! She's out! She's — whatever. Far more disturbing (and much less entertaining) is the way school officials and the criminal justice system are criminalizing children and teenagers all over the country, arresting them and throwing them in jail for behavior that in years past would never have led to the intervention of law enforcement," says Bob Herbert.

NonnyO said:

Posted by Rick Albertson at June 9, 2007 05:03 PM

Read the numbers and weep....

Every person on this blog (and many others I've read) repeatedly expresses outrage about the Iraq war, the numbers of dead (ours AND theirs) who have so needlessly died for lies and oil.

Our Congress Critters certainly have not been paying attention. They're too busy fence-sitting (and collecting money from oil corporations who want so desperately to profit from the illegal Iraq war) and hoping they can control Georgie and Dickie before they start a nuclear world war or invade Iran on false premises.

I hope they all get slivers in their butts from that fence, that the slivers fester into boils that require medical attention and tha they find out their medical insurance won't cover the removal of the slivers or the antibiotics to fight the infection in the slivered boils as they wait out Georgie's and Dickie's terms of office.... They could clear their consciences and get the slivers out of their butts without much pain if they would only listen to their constituents and impeach Dickie first and Georgie second....

NonnyO said:

Oh.... and this paragraph in the above story about Prince Bandar is the one that caught my eye:

The money was paid from an account at the Bank of England into accounts in Washington controlled by Prince Bandar. Details of the transfers were discovered by the Serious Fraud Office during the marathon investigation into BAE.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060907E.shtml
~~~

WHY would Bandar have "control" of "accounts in Washington"...? How many "accounts" are there, and why are they in Washington? Don't these people usually try to cover up their financial transactions in off-shore accounts...???

Hmmmmmmmmm..........

Posted by: NonnyO at June 9, 2007 06:48 PM

Another of Terd Blossom's no-win situations.

Ralpheh said:

Ralpheh
Well Robert Byrd doesn't sign anything he hasn't read and he carries a copy of the Constitution in his pocket.

Posted by: not my president at June 9, 2007 06:45 PM

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We are NOT talking about a 1,000 page appropriations bill. We are talking about a CIA report on WMD - the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's WMD..

And

A vote to give the president power to go to war.

I believe the executive summary of NIE is all of 4 pages. the complete NIE report was 40 or 50 pages........ Are you saying that Hillary, the lawyer, can't manage to read an NIE????

If she can't, SHE Should Not Be President...

Ralpheh
No they all should have read it, and in fact, they ought to read what they sign. If not, they are no some extent corporate tools and to think that we pay their salaries with our hard-earned tax money ..

Condi Rice also should have read whatever it was that was on her desk on 9/10/01 and which Clarke kept trying to meet with her about but she kept blowing him off, being more concerned about the Ruskies.

I have been swamped with work and then am having to move photos from 3 computers to the new one, to consolidate into one library. There are about 15,000 images and I have to figure out which are duplicates and eliminate them, combine them by topic, and put them into libraries. Then I have to learn iPhoto, PhotoShop and iMovie over time.

Last campaign I was picking a candidate and going full steam ahead. This time I am planning to become a propagandist as well as a paparazzi. I would love to learn to make YouTube videos and so on but have no time to really do so, and it's frustrating. So taking it a step at a time when I'm off work.

Anyway, I got email that told me that Bush is meeting with the Pope to discuss the Christians of Iraq. I didn't even read the story yet but the comment from my friend was - doesn't he care about those Iraqis who are not Christians? I think not, as this is a Crusade. I think he is basically taking the Anne Coulter approach of trying to convert them or else kill them, with people in charge of the Onward Christians Soldiers assault such as creepy Boykin and that new guy Lute.

Then I got another one I need to read and the general idea is that W is bulking up with lawyers because of all the ongoing and brewing scandals in his administration. Maybe he wants us to get mired in so deep we can't get out. After all, he did say that we'll all be dead anyway - that scary vague comment.

I did see that Cheney needs pacemaker repair and they need to take it out (the pacemaker - to fix the battery - at first I thought they had to take out his whole heart). Maybe they ought to have Bill Frist do it - he's operated on gorillas.

Then someone sent me this really horrific and sad photo from a subscription service - there isn't a link - you just open the email and see these soldiers lowering this guy into the ground. Anyway, it's supposed to be one of the last photos of a dead soldier that will make it out of Iraq, due to new censorship rules for photographers.

I am headed for the news - please tell me there is something positive and that Ms. Hilton is not top of the news still.

monkey said:

Anyone irc-ed tonite?

monkey said:

Maybe they ought to have Bill Frist do it - he's operated on gorillas.

Posted by: not my president at June 9, 2007 10:24 PM

... and Cheney operates guerillas, what an effin coincidence.

monkeyyyyy said:

Dean: If we don't end war, Democrats could lose power

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The high hurdles faced by congressional Democrats in their efforts to end the Iraq war make electing a Democratic president in 2008 the best way to finish the conflict, Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean said Saturday.

He noted his party has made little progress toward ending the war, the cause, he said, that returned them to power.

"The American people hired Democrats last November to ensure that we end this war," Dean said during the weekly Democratic radio address. "So let me be clear, we know that if we don't keep our promise, we may find ourselves the minority again."

Dean put the blame for the lack of progress squarely on the White House and congressional Republicans for blocking his party's attempt at tying war funding to deadlines for troop withdrawals.

"We have to face the reality that Republicans in Congress are standing with President Bush as he stubbornly wields his veto pen," Dean charged. In response, he proposed that the "one way to truly ensure we end this war" was to elect a Democrat as president in 2008.

A former presidential candidate himself, Dean contrasted the field of Democratic and Republican candidates who participated in separate party debates earlier this week, saying only Democrats would end the war.

Democrats also seek to shift troops from Iraq to Afghanistan, restore damaged relationships with other countries and provide the military with "the resources they need," Dean said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/09/dems.radio.ap/index.html

God, why did I look? It's nuttier than ever - real horror show.

All the candidates are sucking up to Hispanic voters and Clinton is courting the labor vote.

W is not only talking to the Pope abou Iraq's Christians but expects him to help with the evil Castro who just won't die. He just talked to Vladimir but he has to ask the War Czar Lute what the deal was about locating missile defense shields, because now he supercedes neocon Hadley. The Navy is taking over even though Iraq and Afghanistan are ground wars. Does this mean we're getting ready to invade Iran too?

The Pentagon does not want to abide by the law. Decisions were made about military tribunals but that isn't good enough for them. They're appealing so that sucker who drove Bin Laden around is sweating it again.

G8 rich countries stiffed the poor countries re AIDS. Bird flu is back in Egypt and Vietnam.

The Shuttle isn't working, as usual. How many does this make?

A car drove into a mall.

The big story! Paris Hilton will have psychiatric tests. I don't thnk they do this with every crackhead or alcoholic they pick up for the same crime.

Christy said:

Woz,

I think Nonny, on the last thread was right, Louisiana, this situation, is an anomoly and probably could only be matched by Mississippi and maybe Alabama.

By the way, I should disclose that Huey P and Earl K Long were my grandfathers first cousins.

Aline was their second cousin. Irony is a bitch.

But, the problems of Louisiana was not really thier fault even though they did try to screw it up as much as possible.

As I have said before Louisianas corruption, and that of the rest of the deep south, began immediately after the Civil War and has remained virtually unchallenged by anyone who likes breathing.

Now, me, I was born in Indian Territory, and am glad the south lost and slavery defeated, but I love Louisiana. In our own history books they spend like a minute telling us the definition of 'carpetbagger' and then hurry not to dwell on it.

In reality, the newly defeated South was brutally punished as the victors took the spoils. The carpetbaggers moved in and it actually most likely resembled a Biblical Plauge of locusts.

After the North broke the back of the Souths military power, they made sure to break the will and fortunes of anyone with a seperationist notion left.

In the corporate sense, the wealth built on slave labor, was thouroughly looted and the souths economic and political structure dismantled.

They neded the political structure to collapse so the old could be swept away and a lifetime of looting began.

It began there, but then it became a localized way of life. Everybody knows about Alabama. Everybody knows about Mississippi. Everybody knows about Louisiana.

At some point it became a quaint and even global joke.

And, through it all you have an entire region of people who just learn to live with it. I mean, really, who do you call?

Not the sheriff, for Gods sake NOT THE POLICE.

I was raised, and my kids are being raised with the perplexing notion that the police can not be trusted, yet we are to obey the laws they command we follow.

It all seems kinda stupid once you no longer fear them. It is so rediculous you almost forget they have guns.

But, this is the South, we all have guns.

Nonny,

Yes I am talking about an organized corruption that cuts across political affiliaion.

The further it goes, the more and more I come back to the only one single theory it all fits
into without a contortion act.

Dixie Mafia.

According to the FBI they are a police run cartel and are the most vicious cartel in the nation. The drugs fom Mexico do not all get funneled into Texas.

In my personal opionon, Aline somehow walked into the middle of a turf war between dirty cops. How, when, why? I don't know how, but Wanda Hudson also wound up there too,and we don't know how...or why.

I think Red River is the nexus the Feds could never find. In the 80s they busted all kinds of cops and prosecutors from Texas to Alabama, but they only caused the organization to go underground.

I think Red River Parish and Lake Charles Louisiana is the key. It is where most of the bodies are buried.


monkey said:

For Christy...

I Walk On Guilded Splinters
by Mac Rebennack, a.k.a. Dr. John Creaux

Some people think they jive me
But I know they must be crazy
Don't see dey misfortune
Guess they just too lazy

J'suis the Grand Zombie
My yellow belt of choison
Ain't afraid of no tom cat
Fill my brains with poison

Walk thru the fire
Fly thru the smoke
See my enemy
At the end of dey rope

Walk on pins and needles
See what they can do
Walk on gilded splinters
With the king of the Zulu

Kon kon, the kiddy kon kon
Walk on gilded splinters
Kon kon, the kiddy kon kon
Walk on gilded splinters

'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)
'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)
'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)
'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)

Roll outta my coffin
Drink poison in my chalice
Pride begins to fade
And y'all feel my malice

Put gris gris on your doorstep
Soon you'll be in the gutter
I can melt your heart like butter
A-a-and I can make you stutter

Kon kon, the kiddy kon kon
Walk on gilded splinters
Kon kon, the kiddy kon kon
Walk on gilded splinters

'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)
'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)
'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)
'Ti Alberta ('ti Alberta)

Christy said:

BTW,

Take a wild guess where Halliburton is from?

Lake Charles Louisiana.

I truly believe Afghanistan is more the result of a drug turf war on a global cale than it ever had to do with oil or terrorisim.

Why steal oil when a bumper crop of poppy fields is just as profitable, if not more so...?

Iraq is about oil, and is now the main pathway for Afghan heroin making its way to the west.

Christy said:

HAHA Monkey.

That's a good one.

Thank'ya, thank'ya.

monkey said:

China rejects U.S. imports, citing sanitary code
Officials say ants, contaminants found in shipments, but motives questioned

BEIJING - China said Saturday it had rejected a shipment of pistachios from the United States because it contained ants, the latest indication the government may be retaliating as Chinese products are turned back from overseas because of safety concerns.

The state television report, which showed inspectors wearing face masks and sealing the shipping container that held the pistachios, indicated an increasing push to show that other countries also have food safety issues. On Friday, Chinese food safety watchdog announced that shipments of health supplements and raisins from the U.S. had been returned or destroyed because they did not meet quality control standards.

China’s food- and drug-safety record has come under scrutiny in recent months following the deaths of cats and dogs in the United States and Canada blamed on tainted Chinese pet food ingredients. Since then, U.S. inspectors have banned or turned away a growing number of Chinese exports — from monkfish to juice to toothpaste — because they contained life-threatening levels of toxins or unsafe chemicals.

more...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113689/

Whoa, oh, Dumino...

Christy said:

For you Monkey...

I need a sign to let me know you're here

All of these lines are being crossed over the atmosphere

I need to know that things are gonna look up

'Cause I feel us drowning in a sea spilled from a cup

When there is no place safe and no safe place to put my head

When you feel the world shake from the words that are said

And I'm calling all angels
I'm calling all you angels

I won't give up if you don't give up
I won't give up if you don't give up
I won't give up if you don't give up
I won't give up if you don't give up
I won't give up if you don't give up


I need a sign to let me know you're here

'Cause my TV set just keeps it all from being clear

I want a reason for the way things have to be

I need a hand to help build up some kind of hope inside of me

And I'm calling all angels
I'm calling all you angels

woz said:

doesn't he care about those Iraqis who are not Christians?

Posted by: not my president at June 9, 2007 10:24 PM

My thoughts exactly, so I didn't read the article.

woz said:

I did see that Cheney needs pacemaker repair and they need to take it out (the pacemaker - to fix the battery - at first I thought they had to take out his whole heart). Maybe they ought to have Bill Frist do it - he's operated on gorillas.

Posted by: not my president at June 9, 2007 10:24 PM

But gorillas actually have hearts,

woz said:

Posted by Rick Albertson at June 9, 2007 05:03 PM

What can I say? This is a most disturbing set of stats.

sparrow said:

I just discovered this site--Any Soldier. Would the DCP (or people here) be interested in adopting a soldier through there? I think what I might do is take the link to work and see if I can get more people to join me.

http://anysoldier.com/WhereToSend/

Ralpheh said:

Dean: If we don't end war, Democrats could lose power

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The high hurdles faced by congressional Democrats in their efforts to end the Iraq war make electing a Democratic president in 2008 the best way to finish the conflict, Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean said Saturday.

He noted his party has made little progress toward ending the war, the cause, he said, that returned them to power.

"The American people hired Democrats last November to ensure that we end this war," Dean said during the weekly Democratic radio address. "So let me be clear, we know that if we don't keep our promise, we may find ourselves the minority again."

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Perhaps Bush and the Congress are just doing a Kabuki dance before they start pulling out the troops from Iraq:

On NPR this morning, a commentator said that he thought that Congress will demand the start of a withdrawal by this fall (I guess congressmembers don't want a war raging in Iraq while they are campaigning for re-election...)

Otter said:

Actually, it's pretty well recognized that not just Congress but the military and everybody else will be going into withdrawal mode by this fall, even the Bushi'ites and their evil minions have kept on saying since the beginning of this year that September's the month for the inevitable choices to be publicly made on whether or not the Iraq adventure is working (which, of course, it's not, because it can't) hence we'll be de-surging as of then and gradually withdrawing afterwards. Careful, complicated, and extremely cynical political calculations have gone into the timing of this, of course, since that will play quite nicely into the last year of polling, preaching, and pontificating cycles for the upcoming '08 elections.

NonnyO said:

Posted by: Otter at June 10, 2007 10:51 AM

And those of us with our feet firmly and permanently stuck in the cement of reality KNOW that the "withdrawal" will almost certainly be only back to the pre-'surge' level numbers - which isn't really a "withdrawal" at all.

Politicians are going to have to wake up to the FACT that at least progressive bloggers know the TRUTH, that they can't continue to use warmed-over Bu$hSpeak in their campaign speeches.

I'm still waiting for politicians to crawl out from under the delusional Bu$hSpeak and invent their own rhetoric. Right now all of them, even Dems, are still not telling us the truths we (bloggers, at least, if not others) already know.

If/When they STOP using words like 'terrorist' and 'terrorist threat' and 'war on terror' and STOP referring to Georgie's and Dickie's undefined 'enemies' and STOP using rhetoric that implies a connection between 9/11 and Iraq, perhaps they will be forced to turn to reality-based, common-sense, reasoned rhetoric.

Er... well, that's my fantasy, at least.

NonnyO said:

Posted by: Ralpheh at June 10, 2007 10:18 AM

Correct, they won't want any more troop "surges" while they're busy lying to us about why they didn't impeach the lying criminals in charge of this country.

Question is, "Withdraw how many troops?" The troop numbers before the first or the second "surge" numbers. Remember, there have been at least two "surge" numbers (that we know of) - the first one that got attention (21,500 + "support personnel" - the "private contractors" = mercenaries = that technically makes 48,000) and the second one that didn't get any attention (and I've forgotten the number that went with that).

I'm still waiting to hear some reality-based rhetoric from ANY politicians regarding Georgie's and Dickie's illegal war and illegal torture based on lying rhetoric - war crimes, by Geneva Convention standards, a treaty incorporated into the US Constitution.....

If I don't need hearing aids, the tomb-like silence from our less-than-outraged-Congress Critters of BOTH political parties on the topic of known war crimes is deafening....

NonnyO said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070610/pl_nm/usa_powell_dc_1

Colin Powell says Guantanamo should be closed

Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said on Sunday the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay for foreign terrorism suspects should be immediately closed and its inmates moved to the United States.

Powell, who in a 2003 speech to the U.N. Security Council made the case for war against Iraq for possessing weapons of mass destruction that were never found, said the controversial prison in Cuba had become a "major problem" for the United States' image abroad and done more harm than good.

"Guantanamo has become a major, major problem ... in the way the world perceives America and if it were up to me I would close Guantanamo not tomorrow but this afternoon ... and I would not let any of those people go. I would simply move them to the United States and put them into our federal legal system," Powell told NBC's Meet the Press.

"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission. We don't need it and it is causing us far more damage than any good we get for it," he added.

{{{More on link. And Powell is DimWit's stoolie. WHY haven't Congress Critters and Dem candidates been demanding the closure of Gitmo on a DAILY basis since Georgie and Dickie opened it??? Everything Gitmo represents is the polar opposite of what our standards used to be before 2000....}}}


http://news.yahoo.com/comics/uclickcomics/20070610/cx_crwiz_uc/crwiz20070610
Wizard of Id

doesn't he care about those Iraqis who are not Christians?

Posted by: not my president at June 9, 2007 10:24 PM

No he does NOT, and the same with Americans too - I am pretty sure deep inside, he wants all non-Christians deported or exterminated.

W is a HERO in Albania:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6738055.stm

But then, between Hoxha's repressive regime and a primitive, barbaric religion holding sway, Albanians have no idea what freedom really means. So W's brand of "freedom" is good enough for them...

On Albanians again:

Didn't Clinton fight for Kosovo and other hot Albanian issues? Then why the hell are the Albanians thanking W?

They're pulling the same sh*t our Cuban, Korean, and Vietnamese buddies have pulled.

If I don't need hearing aids, the tomb-like silence from our less-than-outraged-Congress Critters of BOTH political parties on the topic of known war crimes is deafening....

Posted by: NonnyO at June 10, 2007 11:55 AM

And here is another topic where the *Democrats* have lost it - at the state level here in California:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113211/

For once, I am with the hated Republicans on this one.

The state-level Democrats in California have been out of touch with reality for a while anyway, stiffing small businesses, motorists, and SoCal suburbs (I'm all three, and this is at least 2/3 of the state).

Ralpheh said:

Actually, it's pretty well recognized that not just Congress but the military and everybody else will be going into withdrawal mode by this fall, even the Bushi'ites and their evil minions have kept on saying since the beginning of this year that September's the month for the inevitable choices to be publicly made on whether or not the Iraq adventure is working (which, of course, it's not, because it c

@@@@@@@

Is the Congress that cynical, self-absorbed and calculating?? They fight Tooth and Nail over a non-binding timeline, just to come back - after yet more American and Iraqi deaths - and say in September "Yep, we need a timeline and an exit strategy."

This must be the Rove approach to government:

You can fool most of the American people, 90% of the time. And that's all you need to know to be able to govern. (Maybe there is something like this saying in The Prince...)

BTW: I am not as positive about the "withdrawal" as you are. There are 5 semi-permanent bases in Iraq, an enormous American embassy, and just this week Tony Snow was talking about the South Korean model applying to Iraq as are some generals. Bush, himself, admitted that Iraq would be the next president's problem. And Joe Lieberman is talking about bombing Iran...

BTW #2: none of the Republican candidates for president are talking about withdrawal are they??

Ralpheh said:

HERE'S MORE ON THE ANIMAL OVER-POPULATION ISSUE IN CALIFORNIA:

Supporters say the bill requiring pets to be spayed or neutered is necessary to reduce the population of unwanted pets dumped in the state’s shelters.

At least 500,000 animals each year are killed in the most populous U.S. state, imposing an unacceptable “humanitarian” cost on California, said Assemblyman Lloyd Levine, the Democrat promoting the bill.

Those dogs and cats also impose a big expense to the state as keeping and killing them costs $300 million a year, Levine said in a telephone interview.

NonnyO said:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-06-09-voa30.cfm
Thousands of Demonstrators Protest Bush Visit to Rome

Excerpt:

"There are a lot of people who are here to demonstrate their opposition to overpowering and violence personified by the man who is here, welcomed with great honor as a friend, while instead he should be treated for what he is: that is an assassin responsible of the worst crimes," she said.

{{{More on link. Did this protest make it into Lamestream Media snooze in this country?}}}

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6737855.stm
Albania prepares to welcome Bush

It might not be the first place you would expect the "leader of the free world" to visit, but nobody is complaining in central Tirana about the visit of US President George W Bush.

Excerpt (more on link):

And everyone is happy Mr Bush is in town.

"This is great. We are proud that the 'President of the World' is visiting Albania," says 23-year-old student Ardita.

"His visit is important for our new democracy."

Konstandin, a 29-year-old waiter at one of the bars, agrees.

"It puts Albania on the map. It shows how close we are to America. We support President Bush and America."
~~~~~
Albania's enthusiasm for the war on terror is not only reflected in its willingness to send troops to both Iraq and Afghanistan, but also in the fact that it has agreed to accept former prisoners from Guantanamo who cannot return to their own countries.

This is the type of practical help and support that Mr Bush appreciates.

{{{I'm... speechless....}}}

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/10/world/europe/10resettle.html
Chinese Leave Guantánamo for Albanian Limbo

NonnyO said:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/10/colin-powell-get-rid-of-gitmo-and-restore-habeas-corpus/
Colin Powell: Get rid of Gitmo and restore Habeas Corpus
{Video + links. Even if he is right, what makes Powell think anyone's gonna listen to him after he lied to the whole world and us at the UN before Georgie's and Dickie's illegal invasion of Iraq...??? Hmmmm...???}

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/10/sen-kyl-will-vote-against-taking-a-no-confidence-vote-on-alberto-gonzales/
Sen. Kyl will vote against taking a no confidence vote on Alberto Gonzales
{I really hate to admit it, but Kyl has a point. We do NOT have a parliamentary form of government, so a 'vote of no confidence' is totally meaningless. It's also a waste of time and it's going to give the uneducated sheeple the misperception that Congress Critters can have a 'vote of no confidence' like other countries with a parliamentarian form of government can do. Isn't it within the power of our Congress Critters to impeach Gonzo, which would at least fall under our constitution...? No one, not even the neoCons after Gonzo's "performance" before the judiciary committee, could possibly have any confidence in any person with a memory allegedly as bad as Gonzo's, so there's no chance that anyone with a functioning brain and an IQ above a rock would ever believe he can do his job properly anyway - so impeaching him would be more effective. Hello... Nancy Pelosi...?}

NonnyO said:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/53571/
The Official "Sicko" Trailer [VIDEO]

Uproar Over Surgeon General Nominee
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061007Z.shtml
President Bush's nominee for surgeon general ran into intensified opposition Friday, as two leading Democratic presidential candidates joined major gay and lesbian groups in urging his rejection by the Senate. Controversy has erupted over a paper James W. Holsinger Jr. wrote 16 years ago on human anatomy and homosexuality, as well as his role in church battles over policies toward gays.

Maureen Dowd | Outing the Out of Touch
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061007C.shtml
"Be honest. Who would you rather share a foxhole with: a gay soldier or Mitt Romney?" asks Maureen Dowd. "A gay soldier, of course. In a dicey situation like that, you need someone steadfast who knows who he is and what he believes, even if he's not allowed to say it out loud."

NonnyO said:

Jonathan Hafetz | Let Torture Into Court
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061007E.shtml
"Should federal courts hear claims alleging torture by US officials? They should indeed. Denying a federal forum for torture claims does not merely undermine the United States' commitment to a universally condemned practice. It also weakens the institutional role of the courts as a check on executive power and tarnishes their reputation as guarantors of individual rights," says Jonathan Hafetz.

Posted by: Ralpheh at June 10, 2007 04:32 PM

I agree that this is not an issue to be taken lightly, but the Dems should've done two things:

(1) Make the law voluntary, but build in encouragements. But reproduction of your pets should be your decision, not the state's.

(2) Deal more with the education, housing, and other pressing HUMAN issues in California.

Honestly, the state Dems matter only if you're a gay pagan vegan unionist, with no car, living in San Francisco. I'm at most only two of these demographics.

Posted by: NonnyO at June 10, 2007 05:11 PM

I'm gonna be brutally honest here. W's and the Republicans' homophobia is just about the ONLY thing that's keeping me from defecting to them.

Such is my frustration level with the Dems right now, especially at my state level. But even on the issue of homophobia, the Dem politicians need to do much more. (I do realize that the grassroots activists are doing the best they can.)

Ralpheh said:

Sen. Kyl will vote against taking a no confidence vote on Alberto Gonzales
{I really hate to admit it, but Kyl has a point. We do NOT have a parliamentary form of government, so a 'vote of no confidence' is totally meaningless. It's also a waste of time and it's going to give the uneducated sheeple the misperception that Congress Critters can have a 'vote of no confid

@@@@@@@

Congress does things that are non-binding. Such as "censure" etc... It is not meaningless if Republicans indicate their displeasure with Gonzales by voting no confidence.

The next step would be impeachment (starting in the House of Reps. I presume).

BTW I did call the House Judiciary Committee regarding impeaching Gonzales. They told me that there were still more witnesses to hear from etc..
I think I asked if they were going to produce a report or a recommendation regarding Gonzales and impeaching him. I don't think a got a direct answer.

BTW #2 The Congress still does not have accurate testimony on who compiled the USa firing list. The N.Y. Times is calling for Rove and Miers to be subpoenaed before the Congress in order to find out what happened.

Ralpheh said:

More on the near riot in Rome from Canadian television:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/06/09/bush-pope.html?ref=rss

NonnyO said:

Posted by: Ralpheh at June 10, 2007 07:06 PM

Contrast the reception oin Rome with this in Albania {shudder}:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070610/ap_on_re_eu/bush
Bush receives hero's welcome in Albania

NonnyO said:

Errrr.... that's 'in Rome' above. Typo fairy has a maniac sugar high (lots of sweet iced tea this afternoon).....

Posted by: Ally McRepuke at June 10, 2007 05:24 PM

I'm this [] close to giving up on politics completely. I KNOW the Georgie, Dickie and the neoCons have committed war crimes, they're getting by with it, and, so far the Dems have done absolutely nothing whatsoever to stop them, which, IMHO, is also criminal because it means they are accomplices. The fact that they're taking for flippin' EVER to "investigate" only a very few crimes is more than my patience level can take. The fact that they're only talking about troop reduction while DimWit keeps increasing troop levels, that they're not talking about closing Gitmo or getting fair trials for the illegal detainees and the war crimes involved with that has snapped my patience level. I want the Congress Critters to stop talking, use the info they already have about the lies and war crimes and other high crimes and misdemeanors we already know about and DO SOMETHING! All talk and no action only gets more people killed for lies and oil.

If our political "leaders" don't know the difference between right and wrong and don't choose to do what's right, then they most certainly do not belong in public office; and that goes for all political opinions: left, right, and center....

Nice to be here -

News black out for quite a few hours because there is no tv hooked up, radio signal weak, not driving because not working, and internet was down, newspaper holder was empty. It has been damn nice!

People are still walking around, drinking coffee, doing yardwork and even dancing, so I don't think the world has come to an end yet.

Reading backwards .. rioting where Bush goes (well .. Albania)

Ally
If you ever defected, don't go to the Republicans. Just go for broke and check out the Greens and Socialists. Besides the homophobia, the have innumerable bad points. Both parties are pretty mainstream but this is not new.

This site is great - you guys are great - now I'm going to check email and news and will probably regret it.

Check out all you can on Albania. I have a cousin who has a fascination with the place. Kind of makes me think of Borat only not satire.

Christy
Interesting about the heroin connection as well as the oil. Well, remember the Contra scandal - as long as there is money in it, someone will have their nose in it and not ask questions about the ethics. The "moralists" are the worst hypocrites. Like the rich who are into diamonds ask no questions about the mines.

NonnyO said:

Posted by: not my president at June 10, 2007 08:42 PM

I'm utterly convinced Lieberman is either losing his mind or in the early stages of Alzheimer's....

Ralpheh said:

Attack Iran? Make My Day, Says Lieberman
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/10/washington/10cnd-policy.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Posted by: not my president at June 10, 2007 08:42 PM

Smokin Joe qualified his statement on Iran: He would not actually like to see an invasion or regime change; just some bombing runs would do....

Ralpheh said:

Contrast the reception oin Rome with this in Albania {shudder}:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070610/ap_on_re_eu/bush
Bush receives hero's welcome in Albania

Posted by: NonnyO at June 10, 2007 07:25 PM

@@@@@

At least George has a few friends somewhere on the planet...

Posted by: not my president at June 10, 2007 08:14 PM

The Republicans - I named their homophobia because it stands for their theocracy, elitism, and favoritism toward certain demographics - the other Republican points I strongly dislike.

The Greens - if I lived in NorCal, where they outnumber the Republicans, they'd be a viable option. I really like their ten-point plan. And honestly, depending on how in touch with reality they are, and how good the organization is as a whole, I am willing to help with their organizing in SoCal if I decide that they are worth my effort.

On the other hand, if they don't even wanna see me because I happen to drive, love meat, and live in a suburb (and run a nonunion shop - even though I pay Davis-Bacon wages), then no thanks. It's that kind of rigidity that let me down with the Dems in the first place. When I was meeting with madame in Chicago, one major point we were stressing was that being rich is NOT a crime - it's what you do with that wealth that matters.

NMP, you may be aware that in France, Sarko's party is set to sweep the general elections as well, and leave the Socialists in a major bind. I'm not surprised, as the Socialists there have had little new to offer for a while. And my state Democrats are headed for the same disaster if they don't wake up soon.

Like the rich who are into diamonds ask no questions about the mines.

Posted by: not my president at June 10, 2007 08:19 PM

Now that's a crime... Diamonds cause so many regional conflicts and so much grief in Africa.

As I said before, wealth by itself is NOT a crime, it's what you do with it that matters.

monkey said:

Bush vows immigration bill will be signed
President affirms support for Gonzales as his Europe trip ends in Bulgaria

SOFIA, Bulgaria - President Bush, turning from adulation in the Balkans to difficulties back home, said Monday that his stalled immigration overhaul would be revived and his embattled attorney general would not fall under a Senate vote of no-confidence.

“I believe we can get it done,” Bush said of the immigration bill that has run into deep trouble on Capitol Hill. “I’ll see you at the bill signing.”

Warmly welcomed in both Bulgaria and Albania, the president spoke at a news conference with Bulgarian President Georgi Parvanov on the last stop of his eight-day trip in Europe. Bush said he would make a trip to Capitol Hill on Tuesday to lobby lawmakers in person on immigration.

He dismissed a planned Senate vote against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as purely political, and said it would have “no bearing” on Gonzales’ fate. “I’ll make the determination as to whether he’s effective,” Bush said.

The no-confidence vote follows months of investigations and the disclosure of internal Justice Department documents that contradicted Gonzales’ initial assertions that the firing of federal prosecutors was not politically motivated or directly coordinated with the White House.

“They can have their votes of no-confidence but it’s not going to make the determination about who serves in my government,” Bush said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19149972/

"MY" government? "MY GOVERNMENT"""?????

That's it, I'm done with this sh*t...

monkey said:

GOP dismisses Gonzales vote as 'political trick'
June 11, 2007

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Majority Democrats in the Senate are forcing their Republican colleagues on the record about whether embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should keep his job.

No one is predicting that a symbolic resolution expressing no confidence in Gonzales will survive even the test vote Monday. Most Republicans are likely to vote no, dismissing the whole exercise as a ploy to embarrass President Bush.

At a news conference in Sofia, Bulgaria, the last stop on a weeklong visit to Europe, the president reaffirmed his support for Gonzales, a longtime friend and legal adviser.

"They can have their votes of no-confidence but it's not going to make the determination about who serves in my government," Bush said Monday. "This process has been drug out a long time. ... It's political."

Still, few of the Senate's 100 members are rushing to defend Gonzales. What goodwill remained toward him after the firings of eight federal prosecutors over the winter seemed to fade after the attorney general told a Senate committee dozens of times that he could not recall key details.

"I'm not going to comment on the kind of job" Gonzales has done, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Arizona, said Sunday on CNN's "Late Edition." "The vote is whether we should take a vote to express a lack of confidence by the Senate. That's wrong."

White House spokesman Tony Snow brushed off the impending vote.

"There's an attempt to sort of pull this thing like a piece of taffy and looking if there's any political advantage in it. There's not," Snow said on Fox News Sunday.

Democrats say it's only right for senators to go on record, since five Republicans have called outright for Gonzales' dismissal and many more of the president's party have said in public comments that they have lost confidence in him.

"If all senators who have actually lost confidence in Attorney General Gonzales voted their conscience, this vote would be unanimous," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, who authored the resolution with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California. "We will soon see where people's loyalties lie."

Even before the firings, Republicans and Democrats alleged widespread abuses of the USA Patriot Act's wiretapping authority by the Justice Department and the appearance that the traditionally independent law enforcement agency is being run too much at the White House's behest.

But GOP senators, including those displeased by Gonzales' conduct, have widely panned Schumer's no-confidence resolution as a political trick to shake Bush's continuing support for his longtime friend.

The resolution itself is only one sentence: "It is the sense of the Senate that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales no longer holds the confidence of the Senate and of the American people."

Gonzales planned to spend part of Monday in Florida, speaking at a terrorism law enforcement conference in Miami.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/11/senate.gonzales.ap/index.html

Tempted by the fruit of another...

monkey said:

W is a HERO in Albania:

Posted by: Ally McRepuke at June 10, 2007 04:05 PM

King George The Worst of Vulgaria

Bush vows immigration bill will be signed
Posted by: monkey at June 11, 2007 09:16 AM

Well, even if it doesn't pass, he will certainly vow that his favorite nationalities will still get through, on back room amnesties.

NonnyO said:

At least George has a few friends somewhere on the planet...
Posted by: Ralpheh at June 10, 2007 09:38 PM

How's about he retire to Albana...? Do we have an extradition treaty with them if ever Congress Critters wake the ***k up and decide to try the crook for war crimes...?
~~~~~~~~~~

"MY" government? "MY GOVERNMENT"""?????
Posted by: monkey at June 11, 2007 09:16 AM

He's used that phrase before and other similar "my" phrases referring to "his" government. I consider that the language of a dictator. I also take offense when he uses the royal "we" when he talks about "the American people..." (or "the American people are losing patience..." with the Iraqi government, etc. or implications thereof) and "we want..." whatever his latest dictates are for Iraq, telling the Iraqis what to do, like they're little children who need to be told what to do (high-handed, heavy-fisted imperialistic rhetoric).... How the h-e-double-toothpicks does he know WHAT "the American people" want...? He's never asked us what we want! He tells people what he wants, or what his puppetmasters (Dickie and Turd Blossom and corporations) want, but he does NOT speak for the majority of "the American people" with a poll rating that sits at 28% (or only barely slightly higher in other polls, but it still hovers around 30% more or less, depending on the on who does the polling - and, IMHO, the polls that put his rating that high are fudging the numbers or doing push polling to get numbers that high)...!

But, like you, when he uses the phrase "MY government" in the way he says it (in the context of the complete quotes), I take exception to the words that issue from his mouth. Well, I am offended every time he utters any sounds, but that may be only my knee-jerk reaction because I've come to realize that he lies virtually every time he opens his mouth. The last 'truthful' statement out of his mouth that comes to mind is when he said as long as he's in office we'll have troops in Iraq (I'm paraphrasing)....

madame defarge said:

W is a HERO in Albania:

Posted by: Ally McRepuke at June 10, 2007 04:05 PM

King George The Worst of Vulgaria

Posted by: monkey at June 11, 2007 11:07 AM

Ya think we can convince them to keep him?

NonnyO said:

"If all senators who have actually lost confidence in Attorney General Gonzales voted their conscience, this vote would be unanimous," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, who authored the resolution with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California. "We will soon see where people's loyalties lie."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/11/senate.gonzales.ap/index.html
Posted by: monkey at June 11, 2007 11:03 AM
~~~~~~~

Senator Feinstein: Are you only talking about the senators? In terms of the American people, likely the "loyalty" goes first to America and her Constitution, but the way all of you in Congress have been acting lately, WE THE PEOPLE question your loyalty to *our* Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Geneva Conventions, and US law (at least before erroneous "interpretations" that have occurred since 2000). The vast majority of Congress Critters of both political parties have voted in favor of everything the spoiled frat brat and his loyal partners in crime have dictated to all of you most of the time since that error in judgment of the SCOTUS decision of 2000. We've lost our patience with all of you in both houses of Congress, even if we are still loyal to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (as originally written and understood by anyone with even a grade school education; it's written in simple language, remember!).

It's not "Republican Backlash" you all need to worry about... it's "Voter Backlash" in 2008 that you will have to worry about! If you all don't start doing what the voters want, I suspect even many incombents will be voted out of office in '08...!

Think about it....

Ralpheh said:

VOTE ON GONZALES TODAY AT 4 P.M.

CALL TOLL FREE:

TELL CONGRESS TO VOTE NO CONFIDENCE ON ALBERTO GONZALES

On Monday, June 11, there is scheduled to be a no confidence vote on
Alberto Gonzales in the Senate. This vote will tell us as much as any
other who deserves to remain in the Senate, and who must be removed
themselves.

You can call toll free at 800-828-0498, 800-459-1887 or 800-614-2803
and ask for your own Senators.

ACTION PAGE: http://www.millionphonemarch.com/no_confidence.php

All our senators need to hear from us on this, but especially we have a
message your Republican senators need to hear. How dare they call this
vote playing politics? Talk about turning justice on its head. The
whole reason Congress must now step in is to STOP the justice department
from playing politics.

madame defarge said:

Pissing people off at home, pissing people off abroad...that's what W does best...

Serbian outrage over Bush remarks

SOFIA, Bulgaria (CNN) -- U.S. President George W. Bush was returning home Monday after an eight-day European tour dominated by concerns over American plans for a Europe-based missile defense system and the future status of the Serbian province of Kosovo.

Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica said Monday that his country was "rightfully embittered" by Bush's remarks in support of Kosovan independence made during a brief stopover Sunday in Albania, adding that the United States "has no right to give away Serbia's territory to Albanians," according to a government news release.

"America must find another way to show its affection and love for the [Kosovan] Albanians, without offering them Serb territories," Kostunica told Serbian national television.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/11/bush.europe/index.html

Ralpheh said:

CALLING TOLL FREE ABOUT GONZALES:

You can call toll free at 800-828-0498, 800-459-1887 or 800-614-2803
and ask for your own Senators.

I have made several phone calls today. The phones are very busy - a good sign - the pressure is on....

I called Republican Senators on the Judiciary Committee:

Sessions
Cornyn
Graham
Hatch (futile attempt etc..)

I tried to contact Specter but the line was busy

I also called my two Senators.

BTW called Sen McCain's office to see how the presidential candidate would be voting...

Posted by: madame defarge at June 11, 2007 01:38 PM

Well, W needs a few new Third World puppets at all costs, and Albania seems pretty darn suitable. Remember that between decades of Hoxha rule and the religious background, the Albanians have never known real freedom - so W's snake oil qualifies as "freedom" to them.

A PO'd Serbia is just the cost of doing business.

monkey said:

pet·u·lant (pěch'ə-lənt) adj.
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
1. Unreasonably irritable or ill-tempered; peevish.
2. Contemptuous in speech or behavior.

[Latin petulāns, petulant-, insolent, from petere, to assail; see pet- in Indo-European roots.]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/petulant

monkey said:

prick [prik] noun

(slang, vulgar) a nasty or contemptible person
Example: He is such a prick!

Arabic: شَخْص حَقير
Czech: idiot
Danish: røvhul
Estonian: jobu
Greek: πρόστυχος, χυδαίος (μειωτ.)
Hungarian: pofa
Indonesian: orang yang menjijikkan
Italian: cazzone
Latvian: maita
Lithuanian: bjaurybė
Norwegian: ekkel person
Polish: kutas, chujek
Russian: мерзавец
Slovak: blbec, otravný človek
Slovenian: kurec
Spanish: gilipollas
Swedish: jävla as
Turkish: boktan biri

NonnyO said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070611/ap_on_re_us/enemy_combatant

Court rules in favor of enemy combatant

The Bush administration cannot legally detain a U.S. resident it suspects of being an al-Qaida sleeper agent without charging him, a divided federal appeals court ruled Monday.

"To sanction such presidential authority to order the military to seize and indefinitely detain civilians, even if the President calls them 'enemy combatants,' would have disastrous consequences for the constitution — and the country," the court panel said.

In the 2-1 decision, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel found that the federal Military Commissions Act doesn't strip Ali al-Marri, a legal U.S. resident, of his constitutional rights to challenge his accusers in court.

It ruled the government must allow al-Marri to be released from military detention.

He is currently the only U.S. resident held as an enemy combatant within the U.S.
~~~~~
Al-Marri's lawyers argued that the Military Commissions Act, passed last fall to establish military trials after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling, doesn't repeal the writ of habeas corpus — defendants' traditional right to challenge their detention.


{More on link. The headline is ambiguous and inflammatory (what else can we expect from Lamestream Media, the propaganda branch of Georgie's administration?), but the info in the article is good news for at least one person who has been illegally detained, thanks to Georgie and Dickie and their criminal cohorts, and NO thanks to the 109th Congress who passed that piece of $h!t known as the Military Commissions Act of 2006! Under "presumed innocent until proven guilty," that headline should have an "ALLEGED" before 'enemy combatant.' We do not KNOW he is an 'enemy combatant' (and neither does the person who wrote that garbage headline!). No one's proved it in a court of law based on EVIDENCE...!}

Christy said:

31

My internet is up. The Comcast man told me Paris Hilton found Jesus.

monkey said:

Posted by: not my president at June 11, 2007 03:15 PM

Is that what it takes to get ones Internet up these days?

Pray-Per-View

Christy said:

Paris Hilton has found Jesus...?

Wow.

Now if only she could find her panties.

Monkey
Click on my name if you need an illustration for your translated dictionary entry

Christy
She "used to act dumb" .. then she discovered the war in Iraq (see caption on picture) .. God is giving her this chance ..

Ok I am going on a Paris media blackout. No sense being without news for the weekend and then wading in that crap.

Posted by: Christy at June 11, 2007 03:24 PM

Amen...

Posted by: not my president at June 11, 2007 03:41 PM

Why is Paris Hilton in the limelight anyway, aside from being a rich heiress and a sex tape?

Besides, anyone who hangs out with Britney and Lindsay ought to have her head examined.

madame defarge said:

Posted by: Christy at June 11, 2007 03:24 PM

ROTFLMAO. That's the funniest thing I've read all day on the internets. ;-)

monkey said:

I see Paris, I see France...

Christy said:

Yall wanna see something cool?

You know I dabble at art, right?

Well, for Karrie and Tiffany coming down, and it being Memorial day and all, I decided to make monuments for Aline, Wanda and Katherine. The first memorial we put up was just flowers and teddybears and they eventually got ruined, so I decided to make something more permanant.

It is strange to mourn someone without a grave.

Anyways, Karrie loved them and I was thrilled to see them go up right in front of her old apt.

Well me and my mom was coming back through Coushatta and I asked if she could stop and get some clear ad close up pics of my art, so I could see my work whenever I wated. Its an ego thing.

She took a series of pics with her high resolution camera phone, and a few days later I got on to her to send them.

They were all good pics, I was pleased, then I pulled up the last picture of the group.

I called my mom and asked her... "WTF are those lights in the last picture?"

She said 'I. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue.'

There are three lines of light, coming, apparently from Alines memorial.

I do not know what it is, but it's comforting.

And strange.

Check it out..

http://www.foreverfaye.blogspot.com/


There is also a slideshow of some of our ..'reunion' that weekend.

I'm the one in the 'Ole Miss Band' Tshirt.

Posted by: Christy at June 11, 2007 05:08 PM

Thanks for sharing... Aline has a really supportive family! (And great pictures of you, even though one was blurry!)

It's still very appalling to see that her case is going nowhere... :(

Christy,

I've posted to my blog regarding Forever Faye...

Christy said:

Ally,

I can not tell everything, for now. I am under a personal oath to with hold certain developments, but I can tell you for a fact it is not 'going no where'.

We all made a promise, to the police. The stakes could not be higher.

Two police departments are about to have a credibility war with each other. There is no way to avoid it. No way to say where it will go.

I am not sure where that leaves our family, but this case is very much alive and getting stranger.

I promise I will explain it as soon as I am no longer obligated to stay silent about what is coming.

But it is DEFINATELY no longer stalled, cold, or dead. And others...others are again in play too. Other victims, other killers.

Robert Charles Browne has kicked the lid off of Pandoras Box.

Posted by: Christy at June 11, 2007 06:17 PM

Thanks for correcting me...

BREAKING NEWS: Republicans block no-confidence vote on Gonzales.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19165190/

sparrow said:

Christy,

I checked out your website on Faye. It's such a tribute to her and her family.

Is there a way to enlarge the pictures?

Christy said:

And TY for being there. My entire family is grateful.


'I won't give up, if you don't give up.'


I love yall.

Christy said:

Sparrow try saving them to your documents and enlarge on your pic viewfinder or in paint shop.

Thats the only way I know.

Her slideshow thing is crappy, I'll see what I can do to get up clearer shots and the enlarged image.

I will also get the close ups of the memorials online, my comp is trippin, but I will see what I can do.

Ralpheh said:

Well,

We Lose again

Gonzo is still in town....

Back to the drawing board

sparrow said:

Christy,

Sometimes I think of this place like a disfunctional family. We bicker. We snap. We sometimes say things we shouldn't.

But I know one reason why I keep coming back and that's because I know that underneath all that disfuntional stuff, there is a group of people willing to try to help out.

I think I can say for all of us that we're here for you and your family, for John and John's family, and for anyone else that may sometime need an extra shoulder.

We're not perfect, and sometime we may say the wrong thing and see a big blowout, but we basically want the best for each other.

I know I do.

Please give hugs to all your family from us and please know that I'll be hoping that there is an end to that madness in the police dept.

I'm proud of My Generation ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY

.. to all you Boomers out there ..

..and then this

http://tinyurl.com/28nl6m

The Remember Song

Is it a hint that all this stuff is hitting me at once?!

Ralpheh said:

Senator Pryor accuses Gonzales of lying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ffojOqiK7E

Sad - my Congressman predicted Gonzales would be gone by St. Patrick's Day. He also predicted we'd invade Iran by the 2006 elections. I still listen to what he says. ("Bagdad Jim")

Ralpheh said:

WORST ADMINISTRATION EVER......

GONZALES IS A FLUNKY TAKING DIRECTIONS FROM ROVE AND CHENEY....

Otter said:

*What*? He is?? Why I am shocked, *shocked* I tell you to hear that there is Gonzalizing going on in this establishment!

Christy said:

oK, I got the close ups of the memorials, along with the light pic, I inverted the colors and clipped in negative too.

I still have no idea WTF that is. My thory is that I do not have a theory.

It is not sunlight.

Christy said:

Ooops, sorry.

This time I will try giving you a link. I had to post them to an old blog.

http://christyscranium.blogspot.com/

monkey said:

Posted by: Otter at June 12, 2007 06:18 AM

"And Moses said, the pissed shall rise up as one in a steady stream of conscience against those who would move to crap on our country"

- Dude or Otter Me 4:20

Ralpheh
Why is Negroponte pretending to be Secretary of State and putting pressure on Al-Maliki? I thought Condi was Secretary of State. What does Cheney do when he goes over there? What the hell is going on?!

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