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It seems that many a Republican presidential candidate are finding themselves with they YouTube jitters, and the CNN YouTube debate may not happen at all.

1. Why do you think the candidates are trying to avoid this format of debate?

2. What question would you ask a Republican candidate via You Tube that you think would have a hope in hell of getting through the selection process?

3. Do you agree that there should be, as some have suggested, an American Idol type call in voting immediately following the each of the future Democratic and Republican debates, to get people used to voting for political candidates and not just entertainment stars?

4. Did you think that question number three was a real question? It wasn't. I made up the whole thing, especially the "some people have suggested part". See how easy it is to be a journalist? All you have to do is add "some people" into any question, and it can make any idiotic assertion look like a plausible and reasonable question to ask. Right up there with asking Barack Obama if he's "black enough".

5. What the hell does "black enough" mean?

6. Anyone here think that Alberto is trying to get himself out of perjury charges by pretending to spill the beans on "other intelligence activities" as a cover?

7. And is it the height of incompetence to suggest that you have committed a lesser sin than perjury by admitting instead that you were talking about a whole other program of spying, so heinous in its illegality, that half of the Justice Department was ready to take a walk if they didn't knock it off?

8. Was the Hillary/Obama "fight", carried on thoughout last week to the interest of almost no one, utterly stupid and vapid?

9. Anyone know who did the John Edwards "hair video"? It's an education in itself how to react to this sort of absolutely idiotic nonsense, namely the hubub about his haircut. You respond with ridicule. If you missed it, it's here for viewing. And by viewing, I mean viewing in non-partisan terms, but as a piece of strategy and response in today's media culture. I don't endorse any candidate for office. I endorse solid political thinking.

10. Will Solicitor General Paul Clement appoint a special prosecutor to the DOJ USA firings investigation? The best I can come up with is, maybe. I am positive that if Ted Olsen were still the Solicitor General of the United States, he would and do so swiftly. As much as I dislike Olsen's stand on any number of social issues, I have always admired him as a good legal scholar who loves the law. Same goes for James Comey, and many, if not most of the employees at the justice department. So the question becomes, does Paul Clement love the law, or does he love some other ideology which ascends some folks above the reach of the Rule of Law for its namesake?

BONUS QUESTION: Now that Inslee is putting a Gonazales impeachment bill in the hopper, has Harry Reid thought about the problem of President Bush using the August recess to dump Gonzales and do a recess appointment of a new Attorney General without any Congressional oversight? Hmmm...

I have questions. You have answers. Pick a question or ten and let's get the discussion going.

63 Comments

karen said:

Before answering Casey's questions, I want to take the opportunity to say THANK YOU to Rick Albertson, who will no longer be the DCP editor after today. Most of you know he has found gainful employment with a certain tall guy, and will be paid something closer to his worth for his writing.

We are proud of him and wish him well!

Mucho Gracias!!

dwahzon said:

Yeah... what Karen said.

Thanks for all your wonderful thread headers, puns (even if I did groan out loud), and witticisms.

Good luck at TTG's place.

Aw, shucks... *blush*

I've just been pulling on the same end of the rope as everybody else here, that's all...

Otter said:

That whole question of what the Bushi'ites will try to pull with recess appointments and so forth during the month of August has been giving me the wiggins ever since the last recess.

I really, really believe that the Pelsoi-Reid Axis of Weebles should keep some kind of skeleton crew on duty throughout the month, just so that technically speaking the legislative branch has not actually gone entirely on recess, and the Evil Minions of Bu$hCo can't pull any rodentiary coups while the cats are away...

Posted by: karen at July 31, 2007 10:54 AM

Ditto here. Congratulations and good luck, Rick!

Christy said:

What the hell does 'black enough' mean.

Regardless of the race of the one making that statement, it is a question of his LOYALTY.

White people ask it because they are afraid he will pick black people over them.

Black people ask it to question if he will pick white people, a white world over their own.

Either way, it is a stupid question that says more about the questioner than him. It is not worthy of an answer.

Christy said:

You know, it is funny, cause people look at mixed race people and think 'Wow, that must be really conflicting. That must be real complicated.'

In fact it is almost always exactly the opposite.

Being both actually makes it easier, not harder.

Christy
I think there is a parallel with exclusively exclusively straight and everything inbetween (which Kinsey documented long ago is the majority). People try to make it black and white, either/or but nature didn't. Same with gender - it's an interplay of chromosomes, prenatal hormones and environment.

Everything needs to be as simple as possible but not simpler. Einstein

Christy said:

I knew this half breed named Asia once. She was hillarious.

She had these big huge fake tatas and we never went to a counter with a male attendant and paid full price. It was AMAZING the power those things had over the opposite sex.

Anyways, she was really beautiful. The product of an unknown US Soldier and her mother, a crazy insane woman from Thialand. Me and that chick partied until it got dangerous. She looked white, until you knew she was Asian.

She used to crack me up so bad. Since she never knew who her father was, or what race he was, every time she met someone new and they would say, 'Yeah, well I am Italian, or Portugese or French, or even Irish'

No matter what race they would say, she would exclaim proudly 'ME TOO!'.

Arabic, Russian, Chinese... She laid claim to all of them on a regular basis. It was so funny.

Fe said:

3. Do you agree that there should be, as some have suggested, an American Idol type call in voting immediately following the each of the future Democratic and Republican debates, to get people used to voting for political candidates and not just entertainment stars?

Even though you dismiss this question, I think its what our presidential politics have become.

I think we should be looking at the French and British models of national elections. Three to six weeks total of campaigning. Publicly funded. Debates on all networks. Furthermore, election day should be on a Saturday or Sunday or a whole weekend to maximize participation. Finally, if the anti-immigrant folks attempt to impose "English only" as a criteria for citizenship, then I think there needs to be a citizenship revocation if one DOESN'T vote in two subsequent national elections.

It sounds draconian, I know, but there are countries much less well off than we are who mandate your presence in the voting booth come election time. I wonder why in hell we don't take the right of democracy - the one product we've sold (often brutally)to other nations, as a model---as seriously as we should?

5. What the hell does "black enough" mean?

An insult to anyone who has had to withstand being "white-identified" and "white-standardized" for centuries. It really means being an ACCEPTABLE Black.

6. Anyone here think that Alberto is trying to get himself out of perjury charges by pretending to spill the beans on "other intelligence activities" as a cover?

He doesn't know himself. The man is an epic symphony of conflicting stories.

8. Was the Hillary/Obama "fight", carried on thoughout last week to the interest of almost no one, utterly stupid and vapid?

Manufactured MSM drama.

BONUS QUESTION: Now that Inslee is putting a Gonazales impeachment bill in the hopper, has Harry Reid thought about the problem of President Bush using the August recess to dump Gonzales and do a recess appointment of a new Attorney General without any Congressional oversight? Hmmm...

He better have thought about it. Reid should call the Senate back in emergency session if Bush tries to attempt another recess appointee.

Christy said:

I think the hardest I have ever laughed in my life was at her.

An unsuspecting pizza man, a very tiny nightgown, and one sleepy unashamed grumpy woman who wanted some damn pizza.

That good little Morman boy had a meltdown right there on the doorstep. I laughed so hard I cried.

Christy said:

Why would Reid stop any of his recess appointments now?

How many times has he already gotten away with it? Why would Reid not spin it as a good thing that atleast we got rid of Torture Boy...?

It would actually save him the trouble of a public spectacle requiring him to do his job already.

Christy said:

In Violation of Federal Law, Ohio's 2004 Presidential Election Records Are Destroyed or Missing


In 56 of Ohio's 88 counties, ballots and election records from 2004 have been "accidentally" destroyed, despite a federal order to preserve them -- it was crucial evidence which would have revealed whether the election was stolen.

http://www.alternet.org/story/58328/?page=3

madame defarge said:

Question I have for EVERY presidential candidate:

When you are in office, will you continue or abandon the unitary presidential powers this administration has exercised?

madame defarge said:

BTW, Rick...so long & thanks for all the fish.

karen said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02M4mqlaszY

George Miller on education...and he's not happy.

Posted by: madame defarge at July 31, 2007 01:02 PM

Excellent one, madame. Anyone REGARDLESS of party affiliation must answer that.

Posted by: karen at July 31, 2007 01:51 PM

That's George Miller, a progressive NorCal Democrat, NOT Gary Miller, a neocon Republican from my SoCal district. Let's not get the two mixed up.

I vote that Fe had the right answers!

karen said:

Heading over to the House now to catch up on the daily news feed....

karen said:

We are in a hearing --House Armed Services--in which Iran is being discussed.

The people testifying are suggesting that the Members who are seemingly wanted to escalate that that would be a mistake.

rossiann said:

Will You Join Veterans on Tillman Investigation?
Following up on my last post (which got more comments, I think, than anything I ever wrote), today, veterans of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq wrote to President Bush, calling him to come clean on the death of former NFL star and Army Ranger, Pat Tillman, and we need you to co-sign that letter with us, at VoteVets.org.
http://www.votevets.org/
Click here to read the letter and sign the petition.
http://www.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizationsCOM/iavapac/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=296

NonnyO said:

I think we should be looking at the French and British models of national elections. Three to six weeks total of campaigning. Publicly funded. Debates on all networks.
Posted by: Fe at July 31, 2007 12:13 PM

Oh, Fe...! You took the words right out of my keyboard/mind...! I have a MAJOR case of 'campaign fatigue' and I'm not quite sure I'll ever recover.

I've been trying to ignore the campaign hype, but I confess that when Lamestream Media Sunday morning bobble head shows started shoving the whole concept of Hillary-Obama or Obama-Hillary down our collective throat clear back in '04 or before - LONG before they every declared their candidacies - I have had a barf bucket handy. I'm heartily sick of both of them at this point (you're right; MSM hype... since reality TV shows became the rage, now everything is a contrived controversy, and that's the other thing that makes me keep a barf bucket handy).

Right now all I want is to hear about what the other candidates are saying. I don't give a flying fart what Hillary or Obama has to say now. Neither one has said anything that isn't Republican Lite, as far as I know.

If there's a late-comer to the party who makes a grand entrance (say, maybe Wes Clark?), I'll jump on that bandwagon. A Clark-Kucinich ticket sounds good at this immediate moment (but I do reserve the right to change my mind). Kucinich is the only one who has balls enough to deal with the issue of impeachment (no matter what, Kucinich gets kudos for that sublime act of bravery, even though everyone is ignoring the Cheney impeachment bill)....

But if I never heard one more thing about Hillary and/or Obama until at least November 1, 2008, it would be too soon. It's only the repetition of their names and the contrived controversy in Lamestream Media that keeps their names recognizable. Enough already.

NonnyO said:

The people testifying are suggesting that the Members who are seemingly wanted to escalate that that would be a mistake.
Posted by: karen at July 31, 2007 04:03 PM

Um... can you clarify that sentence please?

But, yes. It would be a mistake as large as the Iraq invasion if Georgie and/or Dickie (and criminal cohorts) escalate their rhetoric and try to make us believe the same kinds of lies they fed us before they ordered the illegal Iraq invasion (that little detour from Afghanistan, which was the only thing AUMF was for).

I don't even know why any of our legislators would seriously consider upping the ante regarding Iran. Sheer stupidity.

rossiann said:

Georgies banking on they won't come back to get their bonus of $20,000

Army Offering $20,000 Bonus For 'Quick' Recruits
Bonus Goes To Those Willing To Ship Out Within Month
http://www.wlwt.com/news/13766925/detail.html

The other night when I went to see Daft Punk, I saw a Marine with a "jarhead" haircut dancing around with a glow stick. It saddened me to think he is probably shipping out with the Stryker brigade soon.

A conservative approached me today. We normally do not discuss politics. She said, "I was at my other job and saw this bunch of photos and thought of you. There were all these pictures of Bush and someone had paired them all up with monkeys and chimps that they thought resembled him. I will try to make a copy of it for you. I think you will enjoy it."

I had seen it probably 5 years ago but didn't say that. I said "Thanks!" Some old lady who doesn't have a computer also sent the same thing to my mom, who doesn't have a computer either, so that thing is really making the rounds finally!

Florida Voting Machines Still Flawed
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/31/AR2007073101027.html

Why can't anything be done about this over all this time?

California:
Voting Machine Makers Criticize Review
http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-me-machines31jul31,1,7395347.story?coll=la-headlines-technology
(hackable machines)

I've seen an actual demonstration of how easily this can be done.

karen said:

To clarify, I have good news and bad news.

Today was Cities at Peace day and we had a lot of local pols and activists who work together in towns like Cambridge MA and Maplewood NJ come down to speak to Congressional Committees and at the Press Club.

The bad news is that from what I saw and heard today, THEY'RE STILL NOT HEARING USSSSSSSSSSS!

Despite reasonable testimony that ended with General McCaffrey telling the Armed Services Committee that 'it's basically OVER," too many persist in discussing details such as whether or not Iraqis ought to let us tell them how to reorganize their villages or whether they need a regional governing council to do that reorganization.

Walter Jones (NC), however, provided a moving moment before we got there, stating that not a day goes by that he does not regret his vote for this war. He represents the Camp Lejeune area, and has tried to put up photos of everyone killed in Iraq and Afghanistan from his area outside his office door. They won't fit.

I cannot find the right words to day this, but I'm going to try:

Day after day when I see hearings in Congress or watch them on C-Span, I cannot believe the tone deafness of so many of the Members. It's as if they have tapes playing in their ears of minutiae and protocols (not unlike a bunch of teenagers with Ipods in their ears). Some one can literally sit there and read the most devastating testimony, stuff that would bring tears to your eyes, and the next question will be someone pontificating about a sidebar issue.

So now for the GOOD news: THEY'RE ALL LEAVING TOWN FRIDAY!! And where are they going??? Most are going home. That means they are going to be near YOU.

IF we do not provide some reality for these folks in Congress, some feedback, some facts, some tough love, they will come back in September and begin these inane discussions AGAIN.

Therefore, true patriots must get busy. If you are going to YearlyKos, pass the word that people have to GO TO MEMBERS' HOUSES AND OFFICES and give them direct and clear feedback on the war and on impeachment. Thousands must do this, every single day.

We have FOUR WEEKS to make the message clear: We do not want to wait 2-3 more years for you to try all your ideas out on those poor people in Iraq. We want the bloodshed to end NOW. Or we will vote your sorry asses out of office.

And impeachment? You will be fired for dereliction of duty on the job and for undermining the Constitution.

Pass it on...

This message is from Karen and does not reflect the stance of the DCP and the Board. Except when it does.

If you open that link, you'll read that something has gone awry. Try this one instead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/31/AR2007073101205.html

NonnyO said:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/31/cheney-cant-recall-if-he-ordered-hospital-visit/
Cheney Can’t Recall If He Ordered Hospital Visit

{{{Gosh. If their memories aren't any better than that, then there is some 'mass dementia' going around, and they truly are unfit for office. One of the things a politician needs is a good memory, after all (to keep track of the lies, if nothing else)....}}}

NonnyO said:

Why can't anything be done about this over all this time?
Posted by: not my president at July 31, 2007 07:15 PM

Had they REALLY wanted to, they could have had that all fixed by November 2002.

Chances are, they couldn't find a corporation wbo could benefit from it via the state's tax money (and, of course, Jebbie was still governator there, so it was an advantage to the 'PubliCONS to leave it broken).

Only other option: they don't want their election system fixed, so they leave it broken.

Whichever way one looks at it, it doesn't bode well for Democrats or anyone who doesn't want to make the corporations richer.

Ralpheh said:

THE HEAT IS ON

GONZALES

Merely impeaching Attorney General Alberto Gonzales isn't enough, because he's covering up the far more serious crimes of Cheney and Bush. But impeaching Gonzo and sending him packing would open the door to impeaching Cheney and Bush and restore impeachment in many people's minds to a place of honor (rather than sex scandal) in our system of checks and balances. ASK CONGRESS TO IMPEACH GONZO.

Rep. Jay Inslee (D-WA), who has been under intense pressure from impeachment advocates in Washington State, has come a long way. Back in February he lobbied his state legislature not to vote on a resolution urging the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Now he is leading the call for an impeachment investigation of Gonzales.


We have our own petition, which you can send to Congress, detailing some of Gonzales' impeachable offenses, including:

COUNT I: Application of Geneva Conventions; Definition of Torture
COUNT II: Military Commissions
COUNT III: Illegal Domestic Surveillance
COUNT IV: Corrupting the Department of Justice
COUNT V: Perjury

For the details and to sign the petition, go here: http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/94

__________

Keep Your Eyes on the Prize: Impeaching Dick Cheney
"Dick Cheney sent Mr. Gonzales and another official to Mr. Ashcroft’s hospital room to get him to approve the wiretapping." -- New York Times editorial, July 29, 2007

Ralpheh said:

Why would Reid stop any of his recess appointments now?

How many times has he already gotten away with it? Why would Reid not spin it as a good thing that atleast we got rid of Torture Boy...?

It would actually save him the trouble of a public spectacle requiring him to do his job already.

Posted by: Christy at July 31, 2007 12:18 PM

@@@@@@@@

WAIT A SECOND:

Can a President recess appoint a Cabinet level Official?? Like "Acting" Secretary of Defense?? or "Acting" Secretary of State?? I don't ever recall such a thing..

karen said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOZO0y9JgI

Great video from Cities at Peace today, at the gates of the White House.

Backbone Campaign needs to give Congressman Jay Inslee an spine award for spearheading a movement to Impeach Gonzales. Hooray!!

NonnyO said:

Posted by: not my president at July 31, 2007 11:46 PM

Has Inslee even written an impeachment bill for Gonzo yet? Or is this just the first "well, we'll do a resolution and see if we have the votes behind the scenes before we go ahead with maybe doing a full impeachment..." kind of thing...?

No backbone or other awards until/unless the impeachment is actually accomplished AND he signs on to AT LEAST Kucinich's H. Res. 333....

I'm tired of Dems talking big and then wimping out on us. For now encouraging emails and phone calls and a pat on the back will do until he gets someone to sign on to the bill and someone actually DOES SOMETHING for a change.

An impeachment of Gonzo isn't nearly enough! It would only be the first three steps of a 27 mile marathon.

Cheney and Bush MUST also be impeached.

So, encouragement to Inslee, but don't give him any awards or rewards until he finishes the task, please....

NonnyO said:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/31/19305/0228
Impeachment Vote Tomorrow By City Council, Bend, Oregon ! ! !

"Our legislators" (who "technically" work for us!) need to take note of how many communities and states who have already voted for impeachment over the years.

American citizens are leading by example. WHERE are our Congress Critters...?!? Pretty pathetic of our Congress Critters not to do what their constituents have been demanding all these years....

Go Bend, Oregon, GO! :-)

NonnyO said:

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pentagon_to_announce_massive_continuation_of_0731.html

Pentagon announces 20K troops will rotate into Iraq

Troops allow Pentagon to maintain surge levels

The Pentagon announced Tuesday that it will rotate 20,000 into Iraq at the end of this year but denied the troops would extend President Bush's troop "surge" through next spring, The Associated Press reported Tuesday.

CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr reported Tuesday that a "worst case scenario" would stretch military ranks as troops leave for their 15-month rotations.

"They may have to reach down into the National Guard or Army reserve" to maintain the troop levels, Starr said.

Military commanders began to expect earlier this year that the surge would have to be extended into next year. In an article that appeared in the Washington Post in May, Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, who manages day-to-day operations in Iraq, said the surge needed to last "through the beginning of next year, for sure." Odierno noted at the time that new regulations extending tours of duty to 15 months would allow for the surge to last through spring 2008.

{{{More on link. ROTATE?!?!? Interesting term.... Now, check out the first sentence in that paragraph above.... MORE delaying tactics and excuses so Georgie and Dickie can keep troops in Iraq. So... I wonder if Dems will do anything about halting this never-ending war...? At this rate, there will only be a temporary withdrawal of some troops (conveniently) just in time for the '08 election cycle.}}}


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/31/daily-show-turdblossom-subpoena-and-the-scorn-supremacy/
Daily Show: Turdblossom Subpoena and The Scorn Supremacy

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Christy said:

" Some one can literally sit there and read the most devastating testimony, stuff that would bring tears to your eyes, and the next question will be someone pontificating about a sidebar issue. "


Of course they will. I keep thinking about the Downing Memos, how no one in the MSM actually reported it or did so properly.

How can you be a reporter, and have that laid before you and you feel no moral obligation to disassemble it...?

How many people can georgie possibly have paid off or is blackmailing into silence?

I think the question needs to be asked more of congress than it does the MSM.


Christy said:

Oh, and Ralph,

I do not know if it is legally viable for him to appoint a cabinet head, but why would that stop him...?

I mean, seriously, why wouldn't he? Who will stop him? What is Reid going to do, write another strongly worded letter?

As I said, it would actually take heat off Reid, with torture boy gone, he can say 'See. Democracy WORKS.'

And georgie will appoint another lying loser and Reid will pretend to be concerned.

But what will he, what can he actually do about it?

I do believe Harry Reid has outlived his usefullness. He has certainly grown past the confines of what is CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED, so, really, what else is left?

Harry Reid is part of the problem at the moment, not the solution.

Christy said:


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The main Sunni Arab political bloc quit the Iraqi government on Wednesday in a blow to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, while a suicide bomber driving a fuel truck killed 50 people in one of several car bombs in Baghdad

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070801/ts_nm/iraq_dc;_ylt=AquglDWuj_Ze12hPbPBcEnWs0NUE


I guess the Saudis pay better.

Christy said:

Dallas Morning News has turned against the war.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003618626

What I do not get is why they are all offering up their own version of a 'plan' to withdraw.

I was married to military, they are grown folks who know very well how to grab their boots and get the hell out.

They all want to say 'Ooops the war was wrong, here is what we should do...' as if they can be cheered for being the armchair generals they chastise any of us for being.

Here is the headline I am waiting to see... "Mightiest Military Ever gets ass stomped by Iraqis. georgie is to blame"...Or...

'george w bush needs to stop lying. Right now.'

Now THAT would actually be worth the ink.

I have a question.

Is it DICTATORSHIP yet?

Cheney Says He Will Not Close Guantanamo Prison
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/080107K.shtml
Michael Abramowitz reports for The Washington Post, "Vice President Cheney said yesterday that he would not close the prison housing suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, going public with a perspective that DIFFERS FROM THAT OF OTHERS IN THE ADMINISTRATION, INCLUDING PRESIDENT BUSH."

20,000 Soldiers Will Depart for Iraq in December
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/080107L.shtml
The Associated Press reports: "Nearly 20,000 US troops based in the United States will begin departing for Iraq in December as part of the regular rotation of combat forces there, the Defense Department announced Tuesday. These Army and
Marine Corps units ARE NOT RELATED TO THE BUILDUP OF AMERICAN TROOPS ANNOUNCED BY PRESIDENT BUSH in January, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said."

If it lasts a long long time it's not a SURGE.

Power SURGE - brief increase in energy not a sustained one.

I think US, Israel, the "moderate Arab nations" (those with kings and sheiks that own everything) are going to fight together against the Shiites of Iraq and Iran til they are all put down. It will be the modern version (probably with nuclear weapons) of the centuries-old recurring Arabians vs Persians. Why we are involved I don't know. Oh yeah .. Condi keeps saying it. "U S interests" (oil?)

Blogosphere's deep throat emerges
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/1/42635/43285
intrigue
scary

woz said:

Christy, my feeling is that people are afraid that the words they use may be so easily misinterpreted as saying our kids who are there doing the fighting have had their ass kicked and need to run away. We have to weigh all words so carefully that even your president will understand them.

I have two sons. As teenagers, occasionally they'd get into the fists and all out fighting. The hardest thing when you love both sides, is to get one or the other - or both to stop. Loving both sides equally means that sometimes you have to get into the middle physically and allow yourself to be hit. And I never did get hit. They'd try and duck around me, but they wouldn't hit me, so the only way I could stop the fight was to stay between them for about 5 minutes - if that. They'd both go away in different directions and all was ok when they returned.

Now - that's the most simplistic view of all out warfare - without weapons. We all feel love and compassion for the military personnel - especially the young ones, barely out of their teens, barely begun their adult lives - and what a way to begin living as an adult. And they are the ones who seem to be in the greatest danger all the time.

But we also feel love and compassion for the Iraqi's who've lost their parents, their sons, their daughters, their brothers, their sisters, their babies. But we love our own more. And so we have to say, leave the Iraqis to solve their own problems. Maliki is more than useless, which is understandable since he was the Bush selection. No wonder he's not popular.

Christy said:

It has to be money. Oil, drugs, whatever, it all turns green. No one kills this many people for fun.

The more I think of Jack Murtha lying about the theft of 2.6 TRILLION dollars before Sept.11th, the more it makes me sick.

What they are doing in the dark is going to be far more horrifying than anything thats come to light so far.

woz said:

What they are doing in the dark is going to be far more horrifying than anything thats come to light so far.

Posted by: Christy at August 1, 2007 09:46 AM

I fear you're right, Christy

woz said:

Is it DICTATORSHIP yet?

Posted by: not my president at August 1, 2007 09:33 AM

What's the difference between a dictatorship and an autocracy? I think it's both. When congress makes a decision - on any issue - and the president vetoes it - no matter what it's about - what is he? A dictator? An autocrat? Both? Whatever it is - it scares the wits out of me. Especially the rumblings about arming much of the middle east - if he initiates the war he glorifies in his own head - and he gets all the nuclear weaponry to be dumped on the middle east, he'll have to stay on as president. He'll refuse to go until his job is finished. Until He Has Prevailed.

A greater arsenal of weapons of mass destruction than this world has ever imagined is in your dictator's hands. And he plans to share them with the ruthless who suck up to him and who he sucks up to. If he is not stopped soon, he's like a runaway train, he won't be able to be stopped.

Christy said:

Woz,

There would be no misinterpretation.

It is time to quit pussyfooting around the truth. Our soldiers did not fail. We all know war is a political condition that can only be settled POLITICALLY.

Our soldiers have fought their hearts out. And they have had their asses handed to them by a bunch of rag tag walking wounded in defense of their own homes and families.

Is this their fault? NO. It is george w bushes fault. It is dick cheneys fault. It is scooter and wolfawitz and condi and colin powells fault.

And they should all be tried and face hanging for it.

Because THAT is what happens to traitors who DELIBERATELY at every turn betray our SOLDIERS.

He wants to be a WAR PRESIDENT...? Then let him face a military tribunal and explain how exactly he turned our soldiers into the invaders of nations that were no threat to us, and the torturer of people on a global scale.

Misinterpreted? Funny cause that is the only way I could see Tony Snow wiggling out of confronting such words. He would have to try to say war crimes does not mean what we think war crimes means.

Let him try to misinterpret words like these.

I DARE any brownshirted jackbooted bushevik to try to misinterpret them.

The TRUTH is not some poetic narrative that flourishes brighter each time the words get longer.

The truth is blunt, brutal and to the point. This is something every soldier knows.

The greatest military force on earth has been GUTTED. The members of that military know better than anyone else how badly our body politic has failed this nation.

We still refuse to admit we LOST Vietnam, yet no one can actually answer why we killed 3 million people...? Why, what did they die FOR? What did tens and tens and tens of thousands of our own soldiers die? Why were they sacrificed?

We can not pretend this time that we don't know WHY. And we can not wait to be blunt until tens of thousands more of OUR OWN people are killed.

Admitting defeat is never an easy thing. But georgie and his cabal have made any decleration of victory impossible. Not just bloody unlikely... IMPOSSIBLE.

georgie broke it...it is time for him to pay for it. Our soldiers deserve to come home. They have done their jobs.

woz said:

Christy, I agree. I'm saying that most are afraid to say it like it is. And yes, by pussy footing around nothing happens - except more young people die. I really don't see how Bush can be stopped without carting him off to gaol. He needs to be carted off to gaol and locked up in solitary.

The news reports here tonight were that "the surge is working". There were fewer American deaths this month. Mind you, our media is rather sceptical about such a claim. And that just plays into his hands.

Christy said:

The Bush administration's chief intelligence official said yesterday that President Bush authorized a series of secret surveillance activities under a single executive order in late 2001. The disclosure makes clear that a controversial National Security Agency program was part of a much broader operation than the president previously described.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/31/AR2007073102137_pf.html


Guess the strongly worded letters must not have been worded stongly enough.

Woz
The Vice President has been able to operate independently of Bush. He is the dictator.
Read the CAPITALIZED portions of the links I posted from TruthOut. Review former VP Mondale's critique posted last weekend. It is an incredible change in the role of VP. He has been running the country. He is the decider.

Is your skin crawling yet?

Excerpt:

Q The Senate Judiciary Committee is subpoenaing Karl Rove in connection with the firing of federal prosecutors. Why shouldn't he appear?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: There is a strong tradition that the President of the United States is entitled to have people around him who advise him who do not then have to go before the Congress and testify with respect to the advice they gave the President.

It's different for a Cabinet member, for example. If you're Secretary of Defense, you are confirmed by the Senate, you testify before the Senate, you have some accountability to the Senate or to the Congress for testimony. But when you're a senior advisor to the President, as Karl Rove has been, then you are not traditionally required to go testify before the Congress. So that element of executive privilege, confidentiality of communications between the President and his senior people is a very important one, and it shouldn't be violated. And I don't believe it will be in this case.

Q But the public might say, what have you got to hide? And that would be logical, what have you got to hide?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: First of all, there's no charge. What's the allegation of the wrongdoing here? Frankly, there isn't anything. With respect to the U.S. attorneys, there's been, I think, a bit of a witch hunt on Capitol Hill, as they keep rolling over rocks hoping they can find something. But there really hasn't been anything come up that would suggest there was any wrongdoing of any kind. And in the meantime, the President feels strongly, and I do too -- I agree with him -- that it's important for us to pass on these offices we occupy to our successors in as good a shape as we found them. And that means protecting and preserving the integrity of those processes.

I will try to collect as many barf bags as I can on my flight.

Cheney admits he was wrong when he said quite awhile ago that the insurgency in Iraq was "in its last throes" but you would have to go to press other than US and UK to see this emphasis vs the "surge is working" rhetoric and praise for rock star General Petraeus.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2139224,00.html

& yesterday Admiral Mullen, who will be new head of Joint Chiefs of Staff was saying that we will be in Iraq for "years not months" ..

Ralpheh said:

LARRY KING INTERVIEWS CHENEY:

From the "Can You Believe It?" department -

CHENEY SAYS HE DOESN'T RECALL SENDING GONZALES TO ASHCROFT'S HOSPITAL ROOM.....

rossiann said:

Is it DICTATORSHIP yet?

Posted by: not my president at August 1, 2007 09:33 AM

What's the difference between a dictatorship and an autocracy? I think it's both. When congress makes a decision - on any issue - and the president vetoes it - no matter what it's about - what is he? A dictator? An autocrat? Both? Whatever it is - it scares the wits out of me. Especially the rumblings about arming much of the middle east - if he initiates the war he glorifies in his own head - and he gets all the nuclear weaponry to be dumped on the middle east, he'll have to stay on as president. He'll refuse to go until his job is finished. Until He Has Prevailed.

A greater arsenal of weapons of mass destruction than this world has ever imagined is in your dictator's hands. And he plans to share them with the ruthless who suck up to him and who he sucks up to. If he is not stopped soon, he's like a runaway train, he won't be able to be stopped.

Posted by: woz at August 1, 2007 10:02 AM

Now Ain't that the truth

way below the radar said:

no answers, but observation. the sea change in the center of the country continues; hope, amid disgust, is alive. the boundaries between die-hard, Rush Limbaugh Republicans and the Left's own 'wingers have all but disintegrated.

hard work and miracles.

so reports an underground op, one who has "gone dark," ie, utterly tuned out of the blogosphere, corporate owned media and politics in all its mediums.

Maybe we are all "pulling into Nazareth." @;-)

Congrats to the guy who's now writing for TTG.

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