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Rodent Dictators


Recently I joined ArtKos, a group of people interested in political art, and my friend Kayakbiker and I submitted some work for a book for YearlyKos. Through ArtKos, I learned of some wonderful political artists and they are allowing me to present some work here.

Emily Duffy, an East Bay political and car artist, has presented political art via DailyKos diaries and her political art blog, and recently highlighted the work of Kelly Lyles, from the Pacific Northwest. I can see these "Rodent Dictators" live later today in my own backyard at CITIZENS IN HELL, ArtCore studios, Seattle, WA.

The following is adapted (with her permission) from Emily's article about artist Kelly Lyles.

Smtriptych
(copyright Lyles 2007)

Rodent Dictators by Kelly Lyles

In the troubled postwar [world war I] period Mussolini organized his followers, mostly war veterans, in the Fasci di combattimento, which advocated aggressive nationalism, violently opposed the Communists and Socialists, and dressed in black shirts.... Amid strikes, social unrest, and parliamentary breakdown, Mussolini preached forcible restoration of order and practiced terrorism with armed groups.

Mao's record is dominated by two disastrous initiatives: the "Great Leap Forward," a broad campaign to organize peasants into communes during the late 1950s that resulted in mass starvation and repression; and the "Cultural Revolution," a youth- and army-driven nationwide campaign for ideological purity, again resulting in widespread repression and death.

No doubt you know plenty about the George W. Bush's anti-democracy presidency. In Kelly's triptych Mr. Bush is in very compatible company.

I've known Kelly Lyles for over a decade and we liked each other immediately upon meeting at the first San Francisco ArtCar Fest. We're both ArtCar artists as well as trained fine artists. We also both love to dress up in outrageous costumes whenever possible.

Kelly has somehow been able to do what so many artists haven't been, carve out a living as a full-time artist and avoid "working for the man". That freedom, coupled with economic necessity, has allowed Kelly to branch out into many media and take risks other artists fear. She'll try most anything and she works intensely on her multitude of projects. The few times I've stayed with Kelly she ran me ragged with her schedule. Kelly is one of Seattle's favorite Art Mavens. She's at all the splashy parties, she knows who's who, she's done many commissions and she is either making art, thinking about it, or trying to sell it. It's a full time, non-stop vocation for her and the world is definitely better for it.

Below you will see one of five pigs Kelly decorated for the city of Seattle. While Kelly can definitely hold her own with classically trained figure painters I think her rodent paintings are probably my favorite of her works. These cute, pun-traits of squirrels, rabbits, and hedgehogs poke fun at modern human life, religion, sexuality, and food. She draws out chuckles while forcing us to face our sinful habits. Kelly also does pet portraits. Kelly's house and art studio were recently featured on HGTV's "What's With That House".

I hope Kelly will do more overtly political art. Her wit, and facility with paint, makes for a perfect satirical combination. I featured one of her earlier pieces, on DailyKos, President's Cabinet last year.

Lyleslpresidents_cabinet10

We artists spend so much time in isolation (creating our work) that we never get enough feedback from the public. That is one reason Kelly and I have created artcars. More than any art form, the kinetic display of one's art on a vehicle brings creativity into daily living.

Hoorayforthemarketkelly

Here are more links from Emily Duffy:

Iraqi-born artist Wafaa Bilal lets people shoot at him on purpose:
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html#7794047702746087533

Topsy Turvey Bus (An ArtCar commissioned by Ben Cohen):
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html#1751631930903158601

Dave the Rave Political Cartoonist:
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html#7258550134925433786

Separation of Donkey and Spine (one of my own sculptures):
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html#7258550134925433786

With Us or Agin' Us (another of my sculptures):
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_archive.html#115895598462666255

Art in a War Zone (galleries in Iraq):
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html#7496652154160441566

Start Soma: Propaganda III
http://politicalartwork.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html#8328800106899012034

Promoting Progressive/Liberal Ideals and Change in American Politics:
http://www.politicalartwork.blogspot.com

49 Comments

Those pieces of artwork made my day. Thanks, DiAnne.

Ralpheh said:

Just called John Conyers (202-224-3121) about impeaching Gonzales

And Speaker Pelosi's office about impeaching Gonzales Office of the Speaker
H-232, US Capitol
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-0100

For good measure, called the White House about impeaching Gonzales (referencing Sunday's NY Times editorial).

202-456-1111

chinatool said:

I have been living in China for almost two years, it is a very complex political / economic region.
the cultural revolution has many influencing factors, among them Mao. But there are competing political and economic forces, the military battling the red guard along with the peasants....it was a tragic time in China's history.

http://library.thinkquest.org/26469/cultural-revolution/


the great leap forward was a disaster, and Mao was removed from national office as a result. Nature played a role as well, terrible weather arrived just as the reorganized communes came into production. This resulted in terrific famines that swept China.

the Cultural revolution may have been am attempt by Mao to regain lost political power for the failure of the Great leap forward.

karen said:

chinatool,

What do you see as a reasonable course of action to help China meet food and water needs without taking out the planet?

DiAnne, wonderful piece today! Love the artwork!

And yes, it's Monday and a great day to CALL YOUR REPs in CONGRESS!!

Otherwise, the week just gets away from them, ya know?

My husband just bought me Greg Palast's "Armed Madhouse" as light reading for flying. LOL I know I didn't sleep well ever since I read "Best Democracy Money Can Buy."

Christy said:

"Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated "I am the president!" He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of "our country's destiny."


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/viewpoints/stories/DN-geyer_31edi.ART.State.Edition1.4370227.html


So much for sleeping at all.

rossiann said:

BTW, you know my son that went from 5'7 to 6'2 in less than a year...

Well, he lives with me now. The Union Parish Sherriffs department escorted him to my house.

I am looking at this beautiful bad child thinking...'How in the crap do I intimidate someone who is 6 foot 2...?

It was so much easier when he was smaller than me.


Posted by: Christy at July 30, 2007 09:09 AM

ROTFL, Yeah I remember the night I sat here on the DCP all night, when you went out in the streets amongst the red crazies, putting up Anti Bush posters.

Besides you got the big pussycat there, and he's bigger.

Or chase him around the house with a broomstick, with him laughing at you like I used too, son of a bitch, but then he is my son of a bitch and hell I would not be without him

Mums good 94 next month, and still lives on her own and no one can put anything over her, still does her cooking, irons every bloody thing there is to iron, and no one can put anything over her.

I am going to be a grandmother again, number 8, God Bless me and my eldest grandchild just got a friking BMW the same as his fathers, matching BMWs and he is only 17, another pile of grey hairs, I can assure you, the sixteen year old just got this massive big Motor Bike to ride around acerage, darn them all its not grey anymore its friking white.

rossiann said:

Rossi,

Welcome back! I tried to post a quick "Hi" to your blog but couldn't because I don't have a blogger account. I hope you have been enjoying your exchange students.


Regarding the video upthread that I just watched. I am speechless. Disgusted! And just how shameful is it that Lieberman would attend and 'receive the biggest applause.'

Posted by: sparrow at July 30, 2007 08:25 AM

Hey Sparrow,

Yeah I really enjoy them, we keep in touch from all over the world, such a diversity of countries, I think I have had every country in the world, it is amazing to sit at the dinner table and get their thoughts on the political climate of the world, and to get to know so many cultures. It is amazing how youngsters from all over the world can come together for a few months at a time and make friendships, it does not matter what nationality they are, it makes you understand just what Georgie and his thugs have done to the world community, I have had Sunni Muslims, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Columbian, Brazilian, Spanish, Swiss, French, Italian, and American youngsters all living together at one time or another in Harmony.

Hopefully Georgie and his thugs will be impeached and America will give the world a leader with integrity, and right some of the wrongs Georgie has committed on the world.

At least I hope so,

John Kerry diary on Roadblock Republicans, soliciting public ideas for ad - top recommended diary now
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/30/123633/138
O'Reilly won't like it ..

Congressman Inslee from up north where I'll work tomorrow is introducing proposal to impeach Gonzales tomorrow!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/30/16513/1619

monkey said:

Rat in Me Kitchen
by UB40

There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna do?
There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna go?
I'm gonna fix that rat thats what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna fix that rat.

When you open your mouth you don't talk, you shout
And you give every body the blame,
But when they catch you up,
They will shut you up
And you got no one to blame

There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna do?
There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna go?
I'm gonna fix that rat thats what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna fix that rat.

When you out on the street,
You practice lies and deceipt
And you scandalize my name
But when I catch you up
I'm gonna pull you up
I'm gonna check-out inside your brain

There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna do?
There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna go?
I'm gonna fix that rat thats what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna fix that rat.

when yo deh pon the scene,
You make everyone scream
Because they know your so unjust
But when they catch you up
They will kick you up
Because you someone they cannot trust

There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna do?
There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna go?
I'm gonna fix that rat thats what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna fix that rat.

You invade my space
Make me feel disgraced
And you just don't give a damn
If I had my way
If I had my say
I'd like to see you hang

There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna do?
There's a rat in me kitchen what am I gonna go?
I'm gonna fix that rat thats what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna fix that rat.

Great King Rat

Words and music by Freddie Mercury

Great King Rat died today
Born on the twenty first of May
Died syphilis forty four on his birthday
Every second word he swore
Yes he was the son of a whore
Always wanted by the law

Wouldn't you like to know?
Wouldn't you like to know people?
Great King Rat was a dirty old man
And a dirty old man was he
Now what did I tell you
Would you like to see?

Now hear
Where will I be tomorrow?
Will I beg will I borrow?
I don't care I don't care anyway
Come on come on the time is right
This man is evil and that is right
I told you ah yes I told you
And that's no lie oh no no no

Now listen all you people
Put out the good and keep the bad
Don't believe all you read in the Bible
You sinners get in line
Saints you leave far behind
Very soon you're gonna be his disciple

Don't listen to what mama says
Not a word not a word mama says
Or else you'll find yourself being the rival
The great Lord before he died
Knelt sinners by his side
And said you're going to realise tomorrow

No I'm not gonna tell you
What you already know
'Cause time and time again
The old man said it all a long time ago
Come come on the time is right
This evil man will fight
I told you once before

Wouldn't you like to know?
Wouldn't you like to know?
Just like I said before
Great King Rat was a dirty old man
And a dirty old man was he
The last time I tell you
Would you like you see?

Gordon Brown said England will take its troops out of Iraq, no matter what the US does
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2819582.ece

sparrow said:

Posted by: monkey at July 30, 2007 07:25 PM

Hey Monkey...

Haven't you hit the trees in N.C. yet?

sparrow said:

Roberts hospitalized for a seizure. He's 52 and it's his second.

http://www.yahoo.com/s/640345

An unsolved killing - implications for the Justice Department
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/073007S.shtml
This is a local story, now written up in the New Yorker.

Posted by: sparrow at July 30, 2007 07:49 PM

Oh my!

Like all of us here, I don't like him, and I certainly hate what he's done on behalf of Toyota.

But to rejoice at this would NOT be pro-life.

I do wish he takes his health into consideration, and resign before doing too much more damage.

woz said:

Posted by: not my president at July 30, 2007 07:31 PM

"This reflected his desire for a more business-like relationship with the President, instead of the strong personal bond forged by Mr Blair."

That's good news nmp. Now, all we need is for Huff'n'puff Howard to P*ss Off and we can let them all 3 of them be buddies away from the world and its living toys.

sparrow said:

Posted by: Ally McRepuke at July 30, 2007 08:24 PM


Avoid a few other places if you don't like to celebrate illness and death. That's one of the biggest things I respect about how we have behaved here at the DCP.

In all the deaths and illnesses, I have never seen someone posting cheers about it. And it's not just a left-winged attack against right-conservative people. I have 'held my nose' and read Free Republic or Michelle Malkin and have seen celebrations and hints of violence.

woz said:

DiAnne - great thread header. When ever I hear of Mousollini and Mouse Tse Tung, I will think of the 2 of them flanking King Rat on the centre podium.

This art work is amazing. Thanks.

Posted by: sparrow at July 30, 2007 08:44 PM

Of course, there are always the likes of O'Reilly and the Mann calling for the destruction of San Francisco. They'll celebrate if an earthquake levels the place.

Which is also precisely why I consider my BMW driving days over. BMW has had 3 days to send even a form reply, and it has chosen not to. I can only conclude that BMW wants San Francisco destroyed; that means, I can't take my 3-series to the Bay Area in good conscience anymore. And I have zero interest in owning such a car.

Fortunately, I have some savings accounts that will mature soon. I'll trade the car in while it's worth something, and I should be able to drive something nice (and more conscionable) debt-free.

Posted by: rossiann at July 30, 2007 03:38 PM

Please, PLEASE tell your grandkid that BMW is sponsoring O'Reilly and Murdoch - big time.

I hope he will reconsider!

Ted Stevens' home is being seached by FBI and IRS.

Kos site is getting back at O'Reilly by bringing out his old skeletons (falafel, I mean loofah - etc.)

Christy said:

I am laid up in a hotel room with my man celebrating his birthday, but I just had to sneak onto the comp a minute to show yall something.

I got a call to go get a Shreveport bpaper like NOW. And sure enough, my art works are featured front and center on page 1A.

It is also on thier site.


http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage


And the story in full is here

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070730/NEWS01/707300302


Christy said:

And now I will tell you what I know, then I can not speak of it anymore.

The confession is false. Robert Charles Browne is not a viable suspect. In several cases.

His confession is as false as the one Henry Lee Lucas provided. As unlikely as it seems, it has happened twice to my family.

I have no opinion on it any longer.

According to Mr Bush, "instead of weakening his soul, that strengthened his soul", and this was one of many passages where the President sounded like a pastor introducing a new member to the congregation. Mr Bush delivered a short homily on "the great blessings of liberty", which are menaced by "an ideology of darkness", after which he praised Mr Brown for championing "the blessings of education" and said: "I thank you very much for that vision."

So Mr Brown was unquestionably being made welcome by Mr Bush, but was also being treated as a new recruit who had better understand the rudiments of the theology to which he has just signed up.

The President joshed at one point with an American correspondent who was celebrating his 38th birthday, which gave Mr Brown the chance to interject, rather boastfully: "Six of my Cabinet are under 40."

Quick as a flash, Mr Bush capped that with: "You must be feeling damn old then."

Mr Brown could only reply "absolutely", and there was a fleeting sense that Mr Bush had not just asserted his power, but had reminded us that he can be brutal when he chooses.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/31/nbrown631.xml

Carol said:

Christy,

Thanks for sharing. Glad to see the paper keeping the story alive.

Keep the faith, friend.

Christy said:

Does anyone else find it interesting timing for Roberts to sieze up and take a terrible fall...?

Christy said:

TY Carol.

Rossi, I will be back after the BD party.

XOXO

sparrow said:

Posted by: Christy at July 30, 2007 09:38 PM

Diversion or something else...?

woz said:

Christy, I can understand why you no longer have an opinion. A range of opinions must have been swirling around in your head for a very long time. There's just so many disappointments we can take.

I'm glad that the authorities and the local media are doing their bit in the search for truth.

NonnyO said:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/30/specter-white-house-has-18-hours-to-clarify-gonzaless-testimony/

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/specter-administration-has-18-hours-to-clarify-gonzales-testimony-on-wiretapping-2007-07-30.html

The Senate Judiciary Committee’s ranking Republican, Arlen Specter (Pa.), emerged from a crucial Monday briefing and gave the Bush administration 18 hours to resolve the controversy over apparent contradictions in Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s congressional testimony.

Gonzales took issue last week with former Deputy Attorney General James Comey’s description of internal dissent in 2004 over the legal authority for the National Security Agency’s (NSA) warrantless eavesdropping program. Frustrated Democrats called for a special prosecutor to investigate Gonzales for perjury, noting that several officials have publicly echoed Comey’s account. Those calls prompted Specter to request a classified briefing to clear up the dispute.

Specter aides released a statement late Monday that suggested a bombshell to come on Tuesday afternoon.

{{{Full story on link. That last is the money paragraph.... I found the story on C&L, but it came from The Hill's web site.}}}

NonnyO said:

Dianne Feinstein | Close Guantanamo Now
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/30/2858/
Excerpts:
This is profoundly damaging to the United States’ reputation around the world. And it buttresses my belief that President Bush should close the facility within a year, and come up with a process for transferring detainees and ensuring that they face justice.
~~~~~
You do not have to be a lawyer to see Guantanamo for what it is: An evasion of U.S. and international law.

{{{Here's a novel idea, Dianne: How about Congress defunds the whole thing and forces Gitmo to close? You give Georgie entirely too much power by demanding he close it. You and your cohorts in Congress have the power of the purse, remember.... As for the second excerpted paragraph: you're being entirely too polite by using the term 'evasion.' The US is still signed on to the Geneva Conventions, which means as a treaty it's part of the US Constitution. War crimes are being committed at Gitmo. For that reason alone it needs to be closed (and Georgie and Dickie need to be impeached for sanctioning torture and illegally holding prisoners). Period.}}}
http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/

NonnyO said:

James Rothenberg | Impeachment as Political Solution to Iraq War
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/30/2850/

Excerpt:

Trouble is it never really was a war because there was no opposing side. What was there was known to be easy picking - minimally armed and quickly demoralized. Mischaracterizing it as a war appears to give credibility to certain concepts such as self-defense (none was needed), appears to justify curtailment of civil liberties (what are they worth if they can be taken away anyhow?), and appears to give meaning to concepts such as winning and losing (you don’t win something you couldn’t lose).

Extending the train of thought from the mentioned cliché, that the war cannot be won militarily, the war is now said to require a “political solution”. Improperly framing Iraq as a war benefits those responsible for it and obscures the clearest path to a saner future. If instead Iraq was framed as the armed assault that it was (billed as “Shock and Awe”), there is a logical, expedient political solution at our disposal - impeachment.

{{{While I mostly agree with the premises of Rothenberg's article, I would suggest we need a Constitutional solution to our dilemma - not political. If neoCon Congress Critters could be made to see the error of their ways when they blindly support criminals who have committed unconstitutional 'errors' (putting it mildly) that upset the balance of power, perhaps some progress could be made toward a Constitutional solution to the problem of ejecting the top two criminals who started the illegal war based on lies in Iraq in the first place....)))

NonnyO said:

Ingmar Bergman and Tom Snyder died today....

RIP

chinatool said:


chinatool,

What do you see as a reasonable course of action to help China meet food and water needs without taking out the planet?
Karen


China is self sustaining and exporting foods, so i dont see an Issue with them taking out the planet. Where are they getting food and water from now? China supplied all of Hong Kongs food and water for over a hundred years, China exports massive amounts of everything..it is the rest of the world that is not self sustaining. Taiwan is currenty negotiating with importing water from china...the problem is not with China.

The problem has always been with 10% of the world that consumes 50% of its resources. If we want to start saving the planet, we must stop watering golf courses in the desert.

rossiann said:

Happy Birthday for Bubba Christy

rossiann said:

Wondering where you taxes are going, Georgie did well don't you think?

‘Untouchable’ corruption in Iraq ministries

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20043428

Christy said:

No Sparrow, it is not a diversion, it is quite literally something else.

The cdonfession is false, but ..it is almost certain Browne does know who killed Aline.

AND Wanda.

sparrow said:

Christy,

I'm sorry I didn't get to see your link to your artwork in time. It's not there this morning. Did you screenshot it?

Also regarding your reply to mine--I thought you were referring to Justice Roberts.
Posted by: Christy at July 30, 2007 09:38 PM

Diversion or something else...?

Posted by: sparrow at July 30, 2007 10:17 PM

Posted by: Christy at July 31, 2007 07:57 AM

sparrow said:

The problem has always been with 10% of the world that consumes 50% of its resources. If we want to start saving the planet, we must stop watering golf courses in the desert.


Posted by: chinatool at July 31, 2007 03:36 AM

Chinatool,

Your statement reminds me of a friend who is an environmentalist. This friend did not water her grass during the summer.

Well, a couple of years ago, the neighbors got together and watered a message into their brownish lawn. The message read, "Water me." And on the porch there was a note asking them to take care of their lawn with a bottle of weed killer and fertilizer. The message told them how their lawn was 'an embarrassment to the neighborhood.'


Sparrow
Here it is overcast and misty and sprinkly most of the year (Seattle) but July-September can be dry. Our lawns turn yellow but no one waters and if someone did, the pressure would be the reverse (politically correctness). People with really green nice lawns are considered anti-environmentalists who are probably using chemicals that are getting into our drains. People who wash their cars and let soap down the drain are held in similar esteem.

We got rid of our lawn in steps, and alot of people are doing that. No more watering or mowing. Whatever survived was left so that's lots of rosemary and lavendar and kennikinik and the like, which love acid rain and tolerate drought and sogginess both.

I know though that my friend who lives in Minneapolis is under strict regulations about how a garage sale can look and it is absolutely forbidden to park a vehicle in the yard. It can mean ostracism from the neighbors and a ticket from the city.

Both Minneapolis and Seattle were settled by clean Scandinaveans. One time I accidentally dropped a tissue and a guy kept following behind me going, "Excuse me..you dropped something." I was wondering why he didn't just pick it up! My house has a bus stop in front and I am constantly having to pick up after others - cigarette butts, coffee cups, cans even disgusting stuff I don't touch with my bare hands.

Chinatool
I saw alot of irrigation in Arizona and the whole idea of Las Vegas is a blasphemy in the world of climate change.

China has done alot to confront overpopulation. They are using more and more resources as they develop, and importing steel and concrete. I follow the NPR business news. & we buy the things they make in their factories at our Walmarts (I mean many Americans, not most of us here!)

You say 10% of the world consumes 80% of its resources. US alone is 5% of the world's population and consumes 26% of its energy (American Almanic). I think it's much higher for all resources combined.

In 1997, U.S. residents consumed an average of 12,133 kilowatt-hours of electricity each, almost nine times greater than the average for the rest of the world. (Grist Magazine)

Worldwide, some 2 billion people are currently without electricity. (U.S. Department of Energy)

Total U.S. residential energy consumption is projected to increase 17 percent from 1995 - 2015. (U.S. Energy Information Administration)

World energy consumption is expected to increase 40% to 50% by the year 2010, and the global mix of fuels--renewables (18%), nuclear (4%), and fossil (78%)--is projected to remain substantially the same as today; thus global carbon dioxide emissions would also increase 50% to 60%.

Among industrialized and developing countries, Canada consumes per capita the most energy in the world, the United States ranks second, and Italy consumes the least among industrialized countries.

Developing countries use 30% of global energy. Rapid population growth, combined with economic growth, will rapidly increase that percentage in the next 10 years.

The World Bank estimates that investments of $1 trillion will be needed in this decade and upwards of $4 trillion during the next 30 years to meet developing countries' electricity needs alone.

America uses about 15 times more energy per person than does the typical developing country.

Residential appliances, including heating and cooling equipment and water heaters, consume 90% of all energy used in the U.S. residential sector.

The United States spends about $440 billion annually for energy. Energy costs U.S. consumers $200 billion and U.S. manufacturers $100 billion annually.

--

In Iraq, many families only have electricity for an hour a day.

Specter Hints at Gonzales "Bombshell"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/073107J.shtml

The "bombshell" is supposed to drop this afternoon.
Specter emerged from a briefing and now this.

chinatool said:

Hello Not my president, what i said was 10% of the world tends to use 50% of its resources.

China imports to satisfy world demands, not its own. Raw materials imported to manufacture finished goods to export again.

also water demands are tricky to define as well. the best way to avoid using water is to import agricultural products, like grains. If you import a ton of grain, you avoid using a hundred thousand gallons of water.

Water will be the petroluem in the mid 21st century. i am sure we will see wars occur for water, just as they occured for oil

Otter said:

** the more threads change, the less they stay the same **

chinatool
I was not correcting you - I was just trying to pin down some of what the US uses vs the developed world.

I appreciate the comments. I have heard Canadians say they are afraid the US will invade for water, in the future.

Just heard NPR broadcast about liquifying coal. It uses a frightening amount of water to do so and also effectively changes a Prius into a SUV.

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