Citing Congress

Karen,

Those sheep are fabulous! What a great idea. How those congressfolk can walk around with any sense of anything but shame is amazing.

Great thread, and great work!!!

Hi Bill!

... something else

Source: CNN.com

When President Bush made a surprise visit to Iraq last weekend, he made clear he was pleased with what he saw.

"The security situation is changing," Bush told reporters during the visit. "There's more work to be done. But reconciliation is taking place."

"We're kicking ass," Bush said to Vaile Tuesday, according the Herald, after the deputy prime minister inquired about his trip to Iraq.

On Thursday, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino would not confirm or deny the reported comment.
Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

Report: Petraeus wants to maintain surge till spring

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The top U.S. commander in Iraq says he wants to continue the troop buildup there until next spring, amid divisions in the Bush administration over whether to bring some forces home months earlier than that.

When he delivers a much-anticipated report to Congress on Monday, Army Gen. David Petraeus said he expects to advise that there could be a gradual reduction of forces beginning in the spring because of some of the successes acheived so far with the escalation ordered by President Bush in January.

"Based on the progress our forces are achieving, I expect to be able to recommend that some of our forces will be redeployed without replacement," Petraeus said in an e-mail to the Boston Globe and published in its Friday editions.

"The bottom line is that ... I do not envision that the U.S. would need to send more troops," he said, adding that commanders are planning for how remaining troops will be deployed around Iraq "as the surge of forces inevitably runs its course."

The Associated Press reported earlier this week that administration officials said Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker recommended to Bush that he stand by his current war strategy.

But they also said that Bush was considering a symbolic reduction in troops by year's end. Sen. John Warner, R.-Virginia, a former Armed Services Committee chairman, Navy secretary and key player on military issues on Capitol Hill, also has suggested that some troops be brought home by Christmas as a gesture.

The United States would be hard-pressed to maintain the buildup level in Iraq indefinitely. Officials say the number of troops there now has climbed to a record 168,000 and is moving toward a peak of 172,000 in the coming weeks -- a level that could extend into December -- but that it is only because of troop rotations. That is, as some brigades leave and others come in there is a temporary overlap.

The escalation ordered in January essentially added some 30,000 troops to the pre-buildup figure of around 130,000.

Bush himself suggested that modest troop cuts may be possible if military successes continue, but he gave no timeline or specific numbers. Speaking to reporters Wednesday during his attendance at the APEC summit in Australia, he restated his view that decisions about troop levels should be based on recommendations from military commanders.

Reducing troops before spring runs the risk that "you are going to unhinge" security gains made with the buildup, Petraeus's chief spokesman, Col. Steve Boylan, said Friday.

more...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/07/us.iraq.ap/index.html

Operation Protect Legacy is underway...

A modest proposal:

When there is a Bin Laden tape, instead of analyzing it, why not just take a big magnet to it and erase it and broadcast that. That would take the wind out of his sails and also cut down on media speculation.

RON PAUL SHAKING UP REPUBS, INTERNET:

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oh this is good....http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/white-flour-by-digby-via-perlstein.html

clown power!!!

I think at least 100,000 troops will be in Iraq for years. All they'll have to do is argue that Iraq can maintain order in the interior but can't defend its borders. We have set up a situation where Iran is more of a threat because the two countries no longer balance each other out. If a Democrat wins, they will "inherit the war."

Ralpheh
Ron Paul supporters were active at all the street fairs and especially Hempfest, where there are alot of Libertarian pot growers and paraphernalia vendors. They like him because he is isolationist and anti-government crackdown onc civil liberties, but I doubt they are considering that with his tax elimination programs there would be no money for social programs and he is probably not a big supporter of unions. That said, it adds to the circus atmosphere.

If I were going to pick a lone wolf, it would probably be Mike Gravel, because he said not to trust any of them and he is a friend of the worker and defender or the Constitution.

It could be that the interestingness factor of the candidates in both parties in inversely proportional to their poll ratings, which are directly affeted by their media exposure.

Senator Craig was a thorn in the side to Western environmentalists, and the Land Rights people are defending his toilet stall behaviors. One even claims he himself has done the same things, down to grunting around outside the stall to try to get the person inside to hurry up.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/330735_joel07.html
If Craig were not in the Senate, environmental-destruction lobbyists would then turn to Senator Gordon Smith of Oregon, which is perhaps one reason Smith was trying to hurry Craig out. I hope Gordon Smith is soundly defeated next election, even though he is in the center-right leaning part of Oregon.

I can not believe how mad I got this morning over that little girl Madeleine.

How dare her parents sit there and lie to the whole world, while watching resources being completely wasted for a child they know good and well where they put her little body.

How could they?

How can you protect your spouse after they kill your child, even if by accident? Her blood in both the hotel and the car, no way one did not know. How can you let your baby rot somewhere just to keep your secrets?

But the thing that makes me most mad, is how were they not immediately under suspecion? Someone less rich, less white, less...whatever...They never would have been allowed to walk away.

It took TWENTY THREE DAYS to search the car for blood? What a load of crap.

BTW, her father is also to be named as an official suspect.

"Philomena McCann, Madeleine's aunt, said police were suggesting Kate McCann might have accidentally killed her daughter.

"They are suggesting that Kate has in some way accidentally killed Madeleine, then kept her body, then got rid of it," Philomena McCann told Sky News.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/07/madeleine.mccann/index.html

Karen,

I love the idea of giving them citations.

I called them again today. But this time my message was altered. I told them that as a former Republican who voted Democratic this time, I was not going to vote for them in 08 til they end the war and impeach those evil people.

I don't feel that I'm lying because I have voted Republican in the past. And I'm certainly tempted to say to heck with 08 altogether. I've already rescinded my state's Democratic Party membership.

So the flat out truth is that I'm now disassociating myself from the Democratic Party.

Christy,

I hadn't seen that story before you posted it. How awful! I'm telling you that it's getting more and more to the point where I just think the evil people are winning everywhere. It's sickening!!!

Oh and check out this picture of Republicans packing the seats:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/7/163510/1908

And for that, our week-kneed Dems are falling all over themselves to be a Republican 'light'.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/08/books/07cnd-lengle.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all

Madeline L'engle joins Pavoratti

That Kos link is remarkable.

If I were still a republican I would be totally nervous at what is happening.

As I said before, the only thing democrats have to do right now to completely obliterate republicans in 08, is act as UNrepublican as possible.

The republican light theory is the best way in the world to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Obviously the people do not trust republicans at all, any more. The only thing to be gained by acting like republicans will also be their distrust.

The republican light theory is the best way in the world to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Obviously the people do not trust republicans at all, any more. The only thing to be gained by acting like republicans will also be their distrust.

Posted by: Christy at September 7, 2007 06:36 PM

'Zactly!! Great minds think alike.

If there's a way for the beltway Dems to screw things up, they're doing their best to charter that course.

I find myself ready to sit out 08 because all of those people in Congress should be working for us NOW but they're not. So why put them in power in 08?

The DSCC asked you to come up with their nationwide slogan, and you answered with more than 10,000 ideas. I have to admit that - this time - I've been out-zung.

Then we asked you to choose from the four best, and the votes are in for the winning slogan.

Click here to see the winning bumper sticker for 2008.

I find myself ready to sit out 08 because all of those people in Congress should be working for us NOW but they're not. So why put them in power in 08?

Posted by: sparrow at September 7, 2007 06:48 PM

Sparrow don't you dare, I will put a bloody hex on you, You are voting for the Friking Leader of the free World.

We can't afford another Georgie

If I were going to pick a lone wolf, it would probably be Mike Gravel, because he said not to trust any of them and he is a friend of the worker and defender or the Constitution.

It could be that the interestingness factor of the candidates in both parties in inversely proportional to their poll ratings, which are directly affeted by their media exposure.

Posted by: nmp at September 7, 2007 02:01 PM

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I have said that I don't agree with Paul on any of his domestic policy except his wanting to scrap the Patriot Act.

HOWEVER:

With regard to Iraq and Afghanistan, Paul is arguing all the things that the Dems are too chicken or too clueless to say. Hillary has all kinds of caveats about withdrawal of troops which are frankly maddening, i.e.:

1) we have to protect the Kurds, they have been very good

2) we have to protect the Iraqis who helped us during the failing occupation

3) we have to protect the private contractors who were making fistfuls money or stealing money from the U.S. government (Hillary, wake up: we have no obligation to protect the contractors - none)

4) we have to save our precious military equipment we certainly would want to leave it behind.

To me the Ron Paul phenomenon is explained be the disgust and disappointment of Republicans with Bush and his stupid war.

BTW Ron Paul points THIS FACT out: the war in Iraq was the idea of a bunch of fanatic, neo-con ideologues in the Bush administration. Can Hillary manage to utter this out loud? or is telling the truth asking too much of HIllary? or of any Dem other than Kucinich or Gravel?

BTW #2 you can write Paul off but he is doing remarkably well, better than Kucinich or Gravel or any maverick among the Dems. Paul has won several straw votes in several states, he is all over the internet, he parried very well against the predictable attacks during the debate.

sparrow,

heard you loud and clear on disassociation with Dems. I took that route too, a few years back.

Though I am returning to the Democratic fold for the primary, I have to say, if only to make sure the Dems will have the best possible presidential candidate.

clown power!!!

Posted by: Ruffian at September 7, 2007 01:57 PM

Thanks Ruffian. What a great reminder of the power of love and laughter.

It took TWENTY THREE DAYS to search the car for blood? What a load of crap.

Posted by: Christy at September 7, 2007 02:58 PM

Christy, we jailed a woman in the Northern Territory. Eventually she was exonerated - after years in prison. She had claimed that a dingo took her baby from a camping ground in Alice Springs, Central Australia. A movie was made of the story with Meryl Streep playing the mother, Lindy Chamberlain.

Since then, I've not been so quick to judge. And I allow the presumption of innocence to be in me for whatever evidence shows itself. You are right, those traces of blood should have been found immediately. Why have they just suddenly turned up now, after all this time.

"They are suggesting that Kate has in some way accidentally killed Madeleine, then kept her body, then got rid of it," Philomena McCann told Sky News.

Posted by: Christy at September 7, 2007 03:05 PM

Perhaps Madeline was dead when they arrived home from their night out. Remember, Madeline was left in the hotel while they went out. This to me is totally irresponsible.

What was Rudy's biggest failure on 9/11?

http://therealrudy.org/?utm_source=rgemail

Karen, the sheeple are great! As are all of the pics. Code Pink is fantastic as usual. I too, think the citations are brilliant. Does anyone have an actual cost of the Iraq war? In the priorities list it seems way too low. I thought the cost was up beyond billions and into the trillions.

Since then, I've not been so quick to judge. And I allow the presumption of innocence to be in me for whatever evidence shows itself. You are right, those traces of blood should have been found immediately. Why have they just suddenly turned up now, after all this time.

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 07:54 PM

I still believe she was involved woz, and that will never change even though she was exonerated. I was in Darwin when that happened, and her first interview will never leave my mind, it is as clear today as yesterday.

She is married and living in the US today

Does anyone have an actual cost of the Iraq war? In the priorities list it seems way too low. I thought the cost was up beyond billions and into the trillions.

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 08:04 PM
Information Clearing House Newsletter

Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq 1,032,938
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America's War On Iraq 3753
http://icasualties.org/oif/

Cost of U.S. War and Occupation of Iraq
$449,244,288,334

See the cost in your community
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

rossi - that YouTube is excellent! So, voting for him would be as disastrous as voting for Dubya (who is currently at OPEC). I hope everyone everywhere will get to see and hear from the people on this clip.

■US President George Bush proposed a new Asia-Pacific Democracy Partnership, calling on the democratic countries to work together in support of institutions that promote transparent governance.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/pressure-mounts-on-pm/2007/09/07/1188783497256.html

Transparent governance? Like his? Transparent?

thanks rossi. I was after the financial cost. The human cost isn't able to be counted. That will go on forever, through generations, like in Vietnam to this very day.

U.S. Staging Nukes for Iran?

By Larry Johnson

09/06/07 " Booman Tribune" -- -Why the hubbub over a B-52 taking off from a B-52 base in Minot, North Dakota and subsequently landing at a B-52 base in Barksdale, Louisiana? That’s like getting excited if you see postal worker in uniform walking out of a post office. And how does someone watching a B-52 land identify the cruise missiles as nukes? It just does not make sense.

So I called a old friend and retired B-52 pilot and asked him. What he told me offers one compelling case of circumstantial evidence. My buddy, let’s call him Jack D. Ripper, reminded me that the only times you put weapons on a plane is when they are on alert or if you are tasked to move the weapons to a specific site.

Then he told me something I had not heard before.

Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping off point for Middle East operations. Gee, why would we want cruise missile nukes at Barksdale Air Force Base. Can’t imagine we would need to use them in Iraq. Why would we want to preposition nuclear weapons at a base conducting Middle East operations?

His final point was to observe that someone on the inside obviously leaked the info that the planes were carrying nukes. A B-52 landing at Barksdale is a non-event. A B-52 landing with nukes. That is something else.

Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18325.htm

I was after the financial cost.
Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 08:29 PM

Cost of U.S. War and Occupation of Iraq
$449,244,288,334

See the cost in your community
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

Aussie's I LOVE YOU!

Bums for Bush.

http://www.bumsnotbombs.org/

Rossi,

I really believe what L.J. is saying based on my experience with other whistleblowers.

A few demonstrators in DC were arrested--allegedly because they had sound equipment on a table without a permit and they posted some signs about the Peace Rally in DC Sept. 15.

Adam Kokesh was one of them. If you remember, Adam was arrested a few months ago for participating in a reinactment of a military burial.

I met Adam in DC when I was there for Camp Democracy. (He was one of them who was telling me about the Christian Embassy in the Pentagon when they opened it for 9-11 visitors.)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/07/dc-anti-war-protester-kokesh-and-others-arrested/

Aussie's I LOVE YOU!

Bums for Bush.

http://www.bumsnotbombs.org/

Posted by: sparrow at September 7, 2007 08:53 PM

hahaha sparrow - I put the photo and link on the last thread. This year the protesters have to come up with truly outstanding ways to make their point. At first it was going to be a 21 bum salute to let Bush know what we think of him (and Howard) (and the security overkill) and a lot more did turn up although they almost got rained out but managed to bare quite a few bums it seems. I just love protesters. And young protesters especially.

rossie and sparrow - of course the ridiculous news coverage that nuclear missiles were accidentally flown from here to there was such a joke! As Larry Jones points out. It would not be possible for it to be an accidental loading, taking off, landing and discovering. It even makes the military look like the Keystone Kops. Or Dad's Army.

The trouble is, while the media continues to feed us drivel, it seeps in to the consciousness. And the masses who don't have conflicting information in there, become easily brainwashed (brainnuked).

sparrow
I didn't see your link there - the age pic was better as there were more bums with writing or letters on the cheeks.

I'll put it here again:

Great photo - great protesters!

Protesters moon APEC motorcade
Anti Bush protestors bare their Bums in a 'mass moon' at Sydneys Hyde Park during the Apec meeting this afternoon.
Photo: Lee Besford
September 7, 2007 - 4:20PM

A protest involving around 50 bare-bottomed activists spilled onto Sydney streets today, stalling an APEC motorcade and triggering scuffles with police.

The Bums for Bush campaign was hailed a success by organisers, even though drizzling rain kept many protesters away from the mooning anti-Bush protest.

Around 50 people lined up at Hyde Park's north end and mooned an audience of several hundred people, including supporters and media.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/protesters-moon-apec-motorcade/2007/09/07/1188783480075.html

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 03:13 AM

And I like the poster too:
Australia welcomes War Criminal Bush

With the bare bum salute

Iraq Funding: What Should Congress Do?

In September, Congress will vote on President Bush's request for $200
billion more for Iraq.

What should Congress do?

Give President Bush $200 billion without conditions

Give President Bush $200 billion but require him to bring all U.S. troops
safely home within a year

Give President Bush $50 billion to bring U.S. troops safely home within 6
Months

Require President Bush to use existing funds to bring U.S. troops safely
home within 6 months

Vote in our new poll:
http://iraqvote.us
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And another take - we don't like being prevented from protesting.

Naked anger of activists spills on to street
Andrea Petrie
September 8, 2007

A CROWD leaving a bare-bottomed protest against US President George Bush stalled an APEC motorcade and sparked scuffles with police, after the crowd surged towards the entourage and caused a security scare.

About 50 activists from the Bums for Bush campaign had mooned an audience of several hundred in Sydney's Hyde Park yesterday before the crowd dispersed.

But as the crowd spilled on to the street, they spotted the motorcade of New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark and headed towards it.

Police called for back-up and had to push the crowd away before officers regained control. But the security cordon had been compromised so police had to conduct a roadside search before the convoy was allowed to proceed.

One person was arrested for swearing at police.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/naked-anger-of-activists-spills-on-to-street/2007/09/07/1188783497301.html

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 09:38 PM

Yours is a better picture than mine. But I thought they were doing more tomorrow.

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 09:27 PM

I missed your post in the last thread. Havne't been able to read much. Also Tuesdays and THursdays are my fulltime days.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/stupid-arrogant.html
Stupid, Arrogant ... and Creepy

He added, "I've never run a race where I thought I wouldn't win. I thought we were gonna hold the House and the Senate in '06. I thought we'd lose nine or ten seats, and I thought we'd be one or two up in the Senate."

Bush had held that view, almost manic in its optimism, all the way up to election day, in defiance of all available polling data. At the very mention of such data, his face began to curdle. "I understand you can't let polls tell you what to think," he declared
...
"I understand you can't let polls tell you what to think," he declared—one of his most frequently expressed sentiments, but now he went further: "And part of being a leader is: people watch you. I walk in that hall, I say to those commanders—well, guess what would happen if I walk in and say, 'Well, maybe it's not worth it.' When I'm out in the public"—and now he was fully animated, yanked out of his slouch and his eyes clenched like little blue fists—"I fully understand that the enemy watches me, the Iraqis are watching me, the troops watch me, and the people watch me.
.....
"George W. Bush slipped a piece of cheese into his mouth. "Let's order first." He took a quick glance at the day's menu prepared for him and his guest, saw nothing on it he cared for, and announced to the steward, "I'll have a hot dog. Low fat hot dog."
...
"His hot dog arrived. Bush ate rapidly, with a sort of voracious disinterest. He was a man who required comfort and routine. Food, for him, was fuel and familiarity. It was not a thing to reflect on.
"'The job of the president,' he continued, through an ample wad of bread and sausage, 'is to think strategically so that you can accomplish big objectives. As opposed to playing mini-ball. You can't play mini-ball with the influence we have and expect there to be peace. You've gotta think, think BIG. The Iranian issue,' he said as bread crumbs tumbled out of his mouth and onto his chin,"

That moment with Tony Blair and the dinner roll wasn't unusual. That's how he always eats.

Rossi, Woz
I put Bums for Bush on our blog.
It's not really a family blog.
Click on my name.
Comments appreciated!

APEC march underway
David Braithwaite and Edmund Tadros
September 8, 2007 - 11:45AM

Protesters overshadowed by a heavy police presence have marched through central Sydney against the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation forum.

As APEC leaders - including US President George Bush and Prime Minister John Howard - arrived by heavily guarded motorcades at the Sydney Opera House for the summit, riot squads with shields were deployed in some parts CBD.

The protesters gathered at Town Hall and moved towards Hyde Park following a police-approved route. Lines of police funnelled the crowd down Park Street towards the park as helicopters hovered above.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/apec-march-underway/2007/09/07/1188783535745.html

Yours is a better picture than mine. But I thought they were doing more tomorrow.

Posted by: sparrow at September 7, 2007 09:55 PM

Yes, sparrow. It's tomorrow here now. I've just posted the latest overkill of regular protesters.

sparrow

the time differences make it hard to keep track I find. I go to bed on one thread - and wake to find it's a whole new day and a whole new thread and it's already your night time. At least we try! :)

nmp
that's great. It doesn't matter if it's not a family blog. These are extreme times. And I think the bums for Bush is family acceptable. If that's the worst thing that we'll do to the man who has caused chaos and despair for MILLIONS, then that's way more family oriented than what he represents.

woz did you catch this?

Hot Winds Severely Damage Australian Wheat http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/090607EC.shtml
Sambit Mohanty for Reuters reports that Australia's wheat crop, which makes up the bulk of Australia's exports and is the world's second-largest wheat exporter after the United States, could be two million tons lower than even the most pessimistic forecasts.

Two More NY Cops Die of 9/11-Related Cancer http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090707B.shtml
Larry Celona, of the New York Post, reports, "Two more cops have died of 9/11-related lung cancer, according to their families."

Couric's jaunt is fraud on a massive scale
Posted on Sep 6, 2007
By Scott Ritter
If Couric and her ilk won't answer these questions, I will. "Why do Americans keep dying?" Simple: Because we are in Iraq. We don't belong there. Our presence is derived from our own violation of law, not someone else's, and as such any effort to sustain our presence is tainted by this same foundation of illegitimacy. In short, Americans will keep dying in Iraq as long as we remain in Iraq. If Katie wanted to really get to the bottom of this story, she could venture out on her own to any one of the villages and towns where Americans have been killed recently. Of course, she would probably end up dead herself, which would defeat the purpose of trying to report the story.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070907_reporting_from_baghdad/

thanks rossi - no - I did get the forecasts and would have paid more attention because my brother used to grow wheat in north western NSW. I thought it would be really bad, but it is dire.

You know - it's been besieged by trouble ever since the AWB bribes to Saddam - it's kind of like blowback. Not really because the growers had no idea this is what their organisation was doing. But they are really getting hung out to dry now. This would have been about the first year that the memory of the scandal has faded enough. Poor buggers.

Larry Celona, of the New York Post, reports, "Two more cops have died of 9/11-related lung cancer, according to their families."

Posted by: rossiann at September 7, 2007 10:52 PM

Yes. And it will take a hundred years or more for anyone to accept that's the cause.

Owners of nursing home where patients drowned in Katrina flooding acquitted

ST. FRANCISVILLE, LA. — The owners of a nursing home where 35 patients died after Hurricane Katrina were acquitted Friday of negligent homicide and cruelty charges for not evacuating the facility as the storm approached.

The jury took about four hours to acquit Sal and Mabel Mangano, the husband-and-wife owners of St. Rita's Nursing Home in St. Bernard Parish, just outside of New Orleans.

They had faced 35 counts of negligent homicide and 24 counts of cruelty to the elderly or infirm after the patients drowned - some in their beds - when the monster hurricane swept through the area.

/snip

The couple were the only people to face criminal charges stemming directly from Hurricane Katrina. More than 30 lawsuits have been filed against them by patients injured at the nursing home and the families of people who died there.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070907/NEWS/70907046

That moment with Tony Blair and the dinner roll wasn't unusual. That's how he always eats.

Posted by: nmp at September 7, 2007 09:59 PM

That's exactly how I'd picture it. Like a child who hasn't learned that instant gratification IS NOT how life pans out. And with no manners.

. This would have been about the first year that the memory of the scandal has faded enough. Poor buggers.

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 11:16 PM

exactly sucks big time.

I keep a family site, and an anti Bush site that way I don't dirty up my family site.

Yukkkkk bush on my family site nooooooway

That's exactly how I'd picture it. Like a child who hasn't learned that instant gratification IS NOT how life pans out. And with no manners.

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 11:21 PM

Exactly how I have always pictured him to

Osama bin Laden concerned about only his own welfare? Does that sound like any other leaders we know? Other leaders who send other people's children away to die? He is not so different after all.

Yemeni doctor describes bloody siege at Tora Bora
San Juan, Puerto Rico
September 8, 2007 - 12:02PM

A doctor who treated wounded al-Qaeda fighters at Tora Bora in Afghanistan has confirmed Osama bin Laden was at the mountain stronghold as US and Afghan forces attacked - and said the al-Qaeda chief seemed concerned about only his own welfare.

Ayman Saeed Abdullah Batarfi, a doctor from Yemen, told a military panel at Guantanamo Bay that he carried out amputations with a knife and scissors in the caves of Tora Bora during the siege in late 2001 and had to abandon his patients several times when B-52 bombers flew overhead.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/bin-laden-was-at-tora-bora-doctor/2007/09/08/1188783539744.html

Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 11:47 PM
Posted by: rossiann at September 7, 2007 11:02 PM
Posted by: woz at September 7, 2007 11:19 PM

I feel like I'm the human replica of "the scream". (Frozen solid... Damn our media for their criminal, unethical, and immoral lies. Yes. I know that's redundant.)

And on that note, I'm hitting the sack to have more nightmares!!!

Yeah they probably almost got him (UBL).

I still think they ought to just erase his tapes.

Why is publicizing terrorist propaganda any improvement over publicizing state propaganda and what purpose does it serve except to rile everyone up & make them irrational.

Media manipulation and surprise attacks are the main tools of terrorists. Why feed them?

Fred Thompson going over like Lead Balloon

Fred is old, tired, and dull.
Submitted by Harry, Sep 7, 2007 07:58

Thompson looks and acts older than Reagan did when Reagan left office. If Thompson is the savior of the Republican Right, that fringe group is doomed.

No wonder he is afraid to get on the stage with the other candidates.

Why was there any hype about this guy?
Submitted by B Reyes, Sep 7, 2007 02:42

I don't understand how anybody can take him seriously. He's not saying anything different than what the other republican candidates are saying. The more I find out about him the more I dislike. He's got some strikes against him for being a former lobbyist. Then there's the issue of him driving around the truck only during campaigns to play up his "good ol' boy" image. I don't think he has much to him outside of charisma and Law & Order reruns. He's charismatic, like Reagan was-- except without the charm, intelligence, and direction that Reagan had.

Be vewy, vewy quiet...
Submitted by Ariana, Sep 7, 2007 00:13

Elmer "Fwed" Thompson is just being vewy, vewy quiet 'cause he's huntin' waskewy tewowists!

Ron Paul eats actors for lunch
Submitted by Stinky Skunkenheimer, Sep 7, 2007 08:58

Thompson the ugly old divorce and abortion millionaire lobbyist with the trophy wife the age of his daughter!. The ultimate Washington insider who CAUSED all this mess, claiming he will fix it? HA HA - oh man, Ron Paul please. Ron Paul

Bush: OPEC or APEC

SYDNEY, Australia — President Bush had a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day at the Sydney Opera House.

Then, speech done, Bush confidently headed out _ the wrong way.

He strode away from the lectern on a path that would have sent him over a steep drop. Howard and others redirected the president to center stage, where there were steps leading down to the floor of the theater.

Darn I told you Howie was a friking wanker, he should have just let him keep going.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070907/bush-bad-day-at-theater/

BTW:

Can the Progressive Caucus in the House of Reps., revolt after the 2008 election? Decide to dump Pelosi as leader? refuse to cooperate in forming a majority unless they receive some guarantees?

Pelosi already has managed to offend just about everyone in the country and made the Congress even more unpopular than it was prior to 2006.

From Tracey Hutchinson - John Howard and his cronies are definitely unAustralian and have no idea of the meaning of democracy.

"In a sad indictment for the health of our democracy, what has occurred in Sydney this week is the work of a Government intent on silencing dissent.

"We have seen the slow and steady build-up that started with the deportation of US peace activist Scott Parkin a couple of years ago. And we saw it when the Government's sedition laws got wrapped up with the same authoritarian ribbon as the anti-terrorism laws.

"Protesters painting slogans on coal ships in Newcastle or people dancing with stilt puppets through the streets of Sydney are not terrorists.

"But in John Howard's comfortable and relaxed Australia, agitation of any kind has become a national security issue.

"Is it any wonder so many laughed when the Chaser boys drove their three-car convoy into the heart of APEC-land and nobody flinched until they did a U-turn?

"I sincerely hope today's planned peaceful protest march in Sydney is just that."

I sincerely hope its messages, to end the Iraq war and see real action on climate change, are not lost in a head of steam.

Reference for the snippets above:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/funny-for-some-but-its-no-joke-for-others/2007/09/07/1188783492136.html

"Pelosi already has managed to offend just about everyone in the country and made the Congress even more unpopular than it was prior to 2006.

Posted by: Ralpheh at September 8, 2007 02:24 AM

Yes she has and this is a serious problem, regardless of whom the candidate is.
I hope there is a revolt.

Rossi and Woz,

I have seen that movie with Meryl Streep, and to be honest I have no idea if the dingo ate that baby or not. It is one of those things I guess, where you really just had to be there to judge.

BTW, the article on Madeleine, was strangely worded and they failed to clarify something about the car.

The blood was not found 23 days later. The car was rented 23 days AFTER the girl was reported missing. Yet somehow her blood still wound up in that car. Most likly because someone (her parents) moved the body.

That still does not explain though, how they still let the parents walk around free after finding blood in their hotel room.

True, whatever happened could have happened while the babies were alone in the hotel room, but that still does not explain why the parents would then proceed with a game of Hide The Body.

Rep. Paul E. Gillmor (R-Ohio) died of blunt head and neck trauma, injuries consistent with a fall down stairs, the Virginia medical examiner's office concluded in ruling his death an accident.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702384.html?hpid=moreheadlines

As much death as I have been around, death by falling down your stairs is actually very rare.

Blunt head and neck trauma.

How interesting.

Posted by: Christy at September 8, 2007 07:57 AM

Well, falling down your stairs would cause blunt head and neck trauma. But wouldn't the examiner want to make sure there was scars on the heart from say... a heart attack? Or was there a way to see if the bruises around the body are consistent with being pushed down stairs or falling down stairs. If you're pushed you have more momentum so your bruising might be worse.

Of course, I'm not a medical examiner (thank god) but what I am is a person who doesn't trust any one of those Ohio Republicans or the media. They're both corrupt.

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